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newholland4life
Posted 1/11/2024 10:54 (#10568051)
Subject: Honcho K6



New castle PA		Is there any advantage of using this product over the conventional salts in generic glyphosate? Thanks.
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Moose333
Posted 1/11/2024 11:19 (#10568095 - in reply to #10568051)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


NW Wisconsin		Its just a 4.5 lb AE product thats a K salt... Might be some differences in price per lb AE. Roundup Powermax 3 is still the cheapest per lb of all gly still.
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Riverwood
Posted 1/11/2024 16:39 (#10568468 - in reply to #10568095)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


Hanby Mill, AL		Saw a price of $14.50 for Agsaver 53.8% 5.4# product. Is PM3 still a better value?
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Beethauler
Posted 1/11/2024 17:35 (#10568540 - in reply to #10568468)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


Michigan's Thumb		Ag saver would be 5 cents cheaper per acre before the Bayer rebates.
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ksufearless
Posted 1/11/2024 19:38 (#10568744 - in reply to #10568468)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6



NW KS
Riverwood - 1/11/2024 16:39

Saw a price of $14.50 for Agsaver 53.8% 5.4# product. Is PM3 still a better value?


agsaver 5.4 is absolute garbage, imo. you will need quite a bit more to work like a powermax or honcho, imo
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Riverwood
Posted 1/11/2024 19:57 (#10568780 - in reply to #10568744)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


Hanby Mill, AL		The formations are a bit confusing to determine equivalents. What price PM3 = Agsaver at 14.50? What about rate per acre?
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ksufearless
Posted 1/11/2024 20:03 (#10568792 - in reply to #10568780)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6



NW KS
Riverwood - 1/11/2024 19:57

The formations are a bit confusing to determine equivalents. What price PM3 = Agsaver at 14.50? What about rate per acre?


theoretically the agsaver is a 5.4 and the honkey or pm3 is a 6. but the ag saver is a piss poor 5.4. when I got a tote of it a couple years ago, it seemed I need 5-6 more oz than any other 5.4 I had gotten.

imo you need 32 of ag saver vs 22 of honcho or pm3.
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senorthdakota
Posted 1/11/2024 20:11 (#10568816 - in reply to #10568792)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


I guess i havnt had that experience with agsaver..
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flatlick farmer
Posted 1/11/2024 22:32 (#10569045 - in reply to #10568816)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6



West Kentucky		AgSaver worked well for us last year, but this year PM3 is definitely a better buy
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tw35
Posted 1/12/2024 10:11 (#10569582 - in reply to #10568792)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


Clarke county, IA		I had ag saver 5.4 that we tested few years ago and some of the totes were only 40% active. Haven't used it since.
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Mr Bowlus
Posted 1/12/2024 06:55 (#10569240 - in reply to #10568468)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


Stearns County Central MN		Agsaver doesn't have surfactant in it, probably why it doesn't work the best. We use Wynca Sunosphosate 5.4 and have had excellent results. Made in the USA and fully loaded. One of the "good" generics.
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SamT
Posted 1/11/2024 21:06 (#10568920 - in reply to #10568051)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


When it’s hot hot K salt is the king.


If you look at acid equivalents. The real indicator of glyphosate strengths.

Standard 41% 3.0 acid
Agsaver 5.4 4.0 acid
Honcho K6. 4.5 acid
Powermax 3. 4.8 acid.


So if the agsaver is $14.50
4# needs to be $10.88
K6 $16.31
Powermax 17.40

That’s not counting the surfactants in powermax. That’s probably a .15 an acre value or so. Some of the 41% products have some good surfactants in them also.
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Moose333
Posted 1/12/2024 09:09 (#10569454 - in reply to #10568920)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


NW Wisconsin		X2 Nothing is cheaper than powermax and like others have said the surfactant package makes it even cheaper
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SamT
Posted 1/12/2024 09:33 (#10569494 - in reply to #10569454)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


I sell a bunch of the 5.4 junk because that’s what people want after they see it cheap elsewhere. But it’s really a scam from the online guys hoping people won’t do the math.
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WANDSFARMS
Posted 1/12/2024 10:59 (#10569668 - in reply to #10569494)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


Central Alabama		Here the ones I know who use PM-3 or a generic go with the quart rate.
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SamT
Posted 1/12/2024 17:05 (#10570263 - in reply to #10569668)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


If I was running a quart of PM3, I’d be running 48 of 4# stuff or 38 or so 5.4.

Going after something like nutsedge or tx panicum or a morning glory. Light duty, 22pm, 24k6, 26 5.4, 32 4#

I had a large customer running 18 of glystar k6 on voulenteer wheat and wild oats this fall. He had a couple 1000 acres he said it didn’t work on. I went and looked and it was a half donkey kill. We finally figured out he had run out of K6 and his guys grabbed a couple 5.4 totes to finish and didn’t adjust the rate because guy he bought it from said it was just as good as K6 but cheaper. About a $10,000 mistake to save $1 an acre.
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WANDSFARMS
Posted 1/12/2024 17:44 (#10570335 - in reply to #10570263)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


Central Alabama		It's just mostly that's the rate they have always used.

I usually use Durango at 1-gal-5 acres or Makaze at 1-gal-4.5 acres or PM-3 at 1-gal-5.5 acres. On tougher to kill stuff will decrease by half an acre or plan on two shots about 12 days apart.

I have a little more mixing issue with PM-3 with Diuron than the other two.
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Moose333
Posted 1/15/2024 10:45 (#10575360 - in reply to #10570263)
Subject: RE: Honcho K6


NW Wisconsin		X2 with how cheap Rup is now why go with bare minimum rates lol
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