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landrand
Posted 9/4/2023 14:08 (#10388077)
Subject: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


Northern Michigan		I'm thinking about buying a United Farm Tools (UFT) 5000 Grain Drill for a small hobby farm I have. After researching the manufacture, it appears UFT was bought out by Artsway Manufacturing awhile back, but unfortunately, they have discontinued their line of grain drills. I contacted Artsway and asked if they still supply parts for the UFT 5000 grain drill and I was told they no longer do so.

As you may or may not be aware, used UFT grain drills can be purchased pretty cheap now days since parts are no longer available from a Artsway. Since my hobby farm is just a hobby and my income does not depend on the operation of my equipment, I'm thinking about taking a chance on buying the UFT 5000 for under $4,000. Yes it's a risk, but this no-till drill is much cheaper than purchasing something newer that is in current production and has parts availability.

I've never used a no till drill before so I'm wondering what the guru's think about this. I imagine I'd be able to still buy common parts of drills, such as the opener discs, coulters, press wheels, and seed tubes, etc. I would also think this drill probably used many misc parts that can be bought off the shelf from other manufacturers. Unfortunately, if a unique major part on this drill were to break, I'd be SOL.

What do you think? Is it worth the chance to buy this drill or would you consider it a stupid idea. In addition, I could keep my eye out out for another cheap UFT 5000 which could be used for spare parts. I have a 100HP John Deere tractor so I should have no problems pulling this drill. Any opinions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

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Lone Wolf Picker
Posted 9/4/2023 14:21 (#10388088 - in reply to #10388077)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


Black Hawk County, IA		Can you get any of the wear parts from Shoup ? Or convert the disc openers and bearings to Deere, Concorde or another operating brand ? Probably won’t have much resale value someday.

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newred
Posted 9/4/2023 14:23 (#10388093 - in reply to #10388077)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


It sounds risky without the backup drill for parts . You would want to find the parts one in decent shape . You might find openers , closing wheels etc that might work or be modified to fit but be better if you had your own parts in hand .
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landrand
Posted 9/4/2023 15:23 (#10388155 - in reply to #10388093)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


Northern Michigan		Just went to the Shoupparts.com. Looks like they do carry some of the common wear parts for the UFT 5000 no till drill.



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Indianajones
Posted 9/4/2023 14:26 (#10388095 - in reply to #10388077)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available



Neighbor had one back in the '80s and it was a turd when new. Couldn't get it in the ground and sold it after a couple years.
Better be way under 4k to be worth the investment.
INDY
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Dutchman
Posted 9/4/2023 14:53 (#10388121 - in reply to #10388095)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


West Central Illinois		Run!!
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hyseed
Posted 9/4/2023 15:01 (#10388125 - in reply to #10388077)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


We rented a 15 foot to do beans several years. Worked
Fine




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r82230
Posted 9/4/2023 16:47 (#10388264 - in reply to #10388077)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available



Thumb of Michigan		Buddy had one that I borrowed several times (no tilling alfalfa), he no-tilled soybeans every year with it. Shoup kept him in the parts needed. Most everything on that drill was standard size (bolts, etc.). The one you're looking at even has a small seed box it appears. Buddy added one from another brand that worked.

He broke a mount (where disc bearing mounts to) one-time, I had a friend bore a hole though the two pieces, chamfer the hole on both sides. Put a bolt in and welded the bolt on both sides. The keeping it heated welded the parts back together (casted part), still holding together yet today. Description clear as mud, point being you can repair about everything on that drill, if you have a good welder/machinist available.

BTW, he was meticulous about keeping it greased and inside.
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tkoppel
Posted 9/4/2023 18:07 (#10388362 - in reply to #10388264)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


Sanilac Co. Michigan		I don't think they were a bad drill, there were a few around these parts. They were pretty light built, so I don't know how well they'd handle extra weights hung on them, so a guy would want to be cautious.

Wear parts are pretty common, but I'd imagine finding replacements for the row unit mounts specific to that drill would be a challenge. Those break.
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dunlogon
Posted 9/4/2023 18:53 (#10388430 - in reply to #10388077)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


Stayner, Ontario		look for a JD NO TILL DRILL These drills were too light when new.
The no till wavy blades need changing if you decide to purchase.


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provident
Posted 9/5/2023 06:19 (#10389005 - in reply to #10388430)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


Central PA		we had one without the nt coulters.. kinda light for true nt. wear parts no problem. wehad trouble keeping press wheels on them, just a set screw into bearing. it will work for what you want to do.
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Kneedeep 2011
Posted 9/5/2023 09:39 (#10389276 - in reply to #10388430)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available


North Mississippi Delta / Alabama Gulf Coast		Seems a few suitcase weights solved the too light issue?
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KDD
Posted 9/6/2023 09:29 (#10390635 - in reply to #10389276)
Subject: RE: Buying United Farm Tools 500 No-Till Drill - Parts no longer available



Leesburg, Ohio		Adding weights to a drill that has lightweight parts (down-pressure springs, other components) won't fix that problem.
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