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tommyw-5088

Posted 3/27/2023 06:40 (#10159325)
Subject: Never another Massey here ....

Texas

Little 2605h massey , found out its not really a massey at all .

Problems so far - intermittent starting problems , shuttle will not engage forward without 3 attempts , dash works when it wants, had to disconnect brake buzzer , rear end is way too light to use for loader work . 253 hours

I probally wont trade due to money , But if kubota will treat me half right its gone ..

c_mayer

Posted 3/27/2023 07:17 (#10159382 - in reply to #10159325)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Jeffersonville, OH

Not sure what you mean by it's not a Massey...yes, it's built by Tafe in India, but they have been building for MF for MANY years, so it's no less Massey than the Iseki built compacts.

Tafe is and has been a quality supplier for us for many years. Now, if you asked, and the dealer wasn't honest, then by all means complain...but if you think you will find a tractor in those specs and price range made somewhere other than SE Asia, you will likely be very disappointed.

As to your issues, we have sold a couple hundred of the 2600H tractors and they have been pretty trouble free for us.

What do you mean by intermittent starting? Crank and no start, or won't crank?

Shuttle not engaging could be slight linkage adjustment needed, as it's a mechanical shuttle that has to have the clutch disengaged and lift the lever to move it, maybe it's not coming out of it's center position as easy as you think it should? Never had that complaint on one before, so I have never worked on the shuttle.

The dash being moody is something else I haven't seen, but what doesn't work? The whole dash, the display, just the tach?

Brake buzzer is tied to the parking brake and seat switch? Those seat switches are very picky about operator weight, so make sure your seat is adjusted for your weight.

As for the rear end being light, weights are available. They are built pretty heavy for tractors of that class and price, but depending on what you are trying to lift, it absolutely could be light. Is yours 2wd or 4wd?

Do you still have warranty? Have you tied talking to the dealer about these issues?
Chris

tommyw-5088

Posted 3/27/2023 07:41 (#10159423 - in reply to #10159382)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Texas

Thanks for the reply , yes the shuttle wont engage forward most times on first try .

The dash will be dead at times , if it sits in the rain , and thats seldom the dash wont work until it dries .

The starting problem is sometimes it will spin and not start . Yesterday was different would not engage starter .

Had to jump solenoid to get it running . put it in shed and it started right up .

If its cold it will spin 10 -15 seconds before it will fire up . I do let the heater cycle .

I took dash apart and found a loose connector. Thought i had it fixed -Nope .

If its this bad now , whats it gonna be like when its 10 years old ?

Again thanks for all the help you give on here .

If you have a fellow in your shop that's good on them id sure appreciate some advice .

Mines 4 wd with a 911 loader .

c_mayer

Posted 3/27/2023 07:54 (#10159450 - in reply to #10159423)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Jeffersonville, OH

tommyw-5088 - 3/27/2023 08:41

Thanks for the reply , yes the shuttle wont engage forward most times on first try .

The dash will be dead at times , if it sits in the rain , and thats seldom the dash wont work until it dries .

The starting problem is sometimes it will spin and not start . Yesterday was different would not engage starter .

Had to jump solenoid to get it running . put it in shed and it started right up .

If its cold it will spin 10 -15 seconds before it will fire up . I do let the heater cycle .

I took dash apart and found a loose connector. Thought i had it fixed -Nope .

If its this bad now , whats it gonna be like when its 10 years old ?

Again thanks for all the help you give on here .

If you have a fellow in your shop that's good on them id sure appreciate some advice .

Mines 4 wd with a 911 loader .

I really don't have anyone "good" on them, we don't work on them enough...there's not enough to go wrong

Those do crank long before starting, but not 15 seconds. 5-7 normally I'd say. We see fuel filters not tight enough cause it most often, that is a complain we do get, but like I said, normally we go tighten the filters and make it better.

No crank problems have been almost minimal, usually its a operator problem because of where the key is...I do wish they'd move them to the dash on those models.

I'll investigate the shuttle linkage and see what I can see for possibilities. The dash is hard to say really...the whole dash doesn't work?

Chris

Farming Red

Posted 3/27/2023 11:02 (#10159753 - in reply to #10159382)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

s MO

Thanks for your responses to people’s agco questions. Good dealers are hard to get.

Massey1155

Posted 3/27/2023 07:45 (#10159431 - in reply to #10159325)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

NW Iowa

That's a 2.3L,55hp, 46pto,10-15 gpm,2700lb tractor. It's like buying a Massey 135 with Massey 150 hp from the 60's. Infact it's lighter than the 135.
If you are using it to farm with except vegetables or garden you will be sorely disappointed. Anything more that yard use and its overworked....
It the size of my lawnmower.
That being said most of those are reliable.
Sounds like you got one that needs some help
You won't lift much without the rear weight pkg.
If it's under warranty and the dealer can't fix it, the dealer isn't much, as those things are pretty simple.
If it's out of warranty roll up your sleeves and figure it out. Welcome to owning equipment.

Edit- I would order a service book so you can start eliminating problems. Without it you are guessing.
Remember it's usually always something simple. Bad ground or linkage that needs adjusting.

Edited by Massey1155 3/27/2023 07:50

tommyw-5088

Posted 3/27/2023 07:46 (#10159434 - in reply to #10159431)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Texas

Massey1155 - 3/27/2023 07:45

That's a 2.3L,55hp, 46pto,10-15 gpm,2700lb tractor. It's like buying a Massey 135 with Massey 150 hp from the 60's. Infact it's lighter than the 135.
If you are using it to farm with except vegetables or garden you will be sorely disappointed. Anything more that yard use and its overworked....
It the size of my lawnmower.
That being said most of those are reliable.
You won't lift much without the rear weight pkg.
If it's under warranty and the dealer can't fix it, the dealer isn't much, as those things are pretty simple.
If it's out of warranty roll up your sleeves and figure it out. Welcome to owning equipment.

Im kind of used to equipment :} i was raised on a 1000 acre crop / livestock farm .

Massey1155

Posted 3/27/2023 07:54 (#10159449 - in reply to #10159434)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

NW Iowa

Excellent, then this should be a breeze for you.
So what yr is it and is it out of warranty?

SpringBrookFarm

Posted 3/27/2023 08:32 (#10159530 - in reply to #10159434)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Paradise KS

raised on one doesnt really mean much....

tommyw-5088

Posted 3/27/2023 10:29 (#10159706 - in reply to #10159530)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Texas

SpringBrookFarm - 3/27/2023 08:32

raised on one doesnt really mean much....

I started running a tractor when i was 9 . so id dare say i have a little experence .

At the present time we have 9 tractors , ranging from a f-20 to a 7140 .

hillfarmer

Posted 3/27/2023 07:48 (#10159437 - in reply to #10159325)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

I almost missed the "h "

bit different then the 2605 I was thinking of, It had a 354 perkins !!!!

c_mayer

Posted 3/27/2023 07:55 (#10159453 - in reply to #10159437)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Jeffersonville, OH

hillfarmer - 3/27/2023 08:48

I almost missed the "h "

bit different then the 2605 I was thinking of, It had a 354 perkins !!!!

That was 2705 IIRC

But, there is a 2605 from 2006-2009ish timeframe, made by Tafe as well, and the newer 2605H
Chris

hillfarmer

Posted 3/27/2023 08:10 (#10159483 - in reply to #10159453)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

we missed all the fun years

still have the 1155 ,1153 175 ,165

but the clutch on ,in the 3690 is loosing prime not sure I want to know how to fix that

lost it twice in the fall but ran the cart all week !!

maxflex540

Posted 3/27/2023 08:07 (#10159479 - in reply to #10159325)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

NW Iowa

We have a little Deere 5055E, similar size to yours I think. Has a front end loader and same rear weight issue as you. It was a funeral waiting to happen until we put fluid in the rears and now it's good and stable. It has a few cast weights on the rims but in a smaller tractor those weights just aren't very big or heavy. This has what I call a "backhoe tire" on the rears, kinda fat so they hold a fair amount of fluid. People hate the corrosion but twenty years down the road I'll be happy the tractor has never been flipped over with me underneath it.

Lauritsenag

Posted 3/30/2023 06:27 (#10164172 - in reply to #10159479)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Fyi, in my T5 New Holland and before they delivered a new Sub Compact Kubota for my wife I had them add windshield washer fluid. 8lbs per gallon vers 11 lbs per gallon for calcium? and no corrosion issues.

dondozer

Posted 3/27/2023 09:58 (#10159674 - in reply to #10159325)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

NW Ohio,near Findlay

i have been around , used about all the compact tractors in the past, and never fell in love with any of them to do heavy work. They are really nice for small jobs, but most of them just don't have the weight and tire size to load anything big. Will get flamed for this, but my old 960 Ford farm tractor with a box or landscape rake will go over rough yards all day and not bust up lift arms, and have the lifting capacity to pull box out of ground while ripping. Ever notice how many are for sale used? Buddy of mine has a nice Deere compact, loader, weight box, but can't even load a little trailer, not enough height or reach. Have forks for it, weight box loaded, try loading a log in any uneven ground, is about impossible, not enough width to be stable.

Larry_minn

Posted 3/27/2023 12:34 (#10159861 - in reply to #10159325)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

All your lifetime experience. You never knew tractor companies buy the tractors from other companies, in other countries? You buy a undersized tractor?
New tractors do not tolerate wet, cold conditions. The electronics are very sensitive. My Shuttle shift acts up in cold weather. I lose reverse. $600 in parts later I still hate using it below freezing. (It’s the tractor I liked on rear mounted snowblower). It’s not a Massey.
Friend wanted better loader tractor for yard, brush hog. I told him it’s too small. Year later “it’s just too small”. Electrical issues stink.

Steady Eddie

Posted 3/27/2023 22:07 (#10160899 - in reply to #10159861)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

SE IL / SW IN

For all of you guys making your snide little remarks to Tommy you should spend a little time on here doing a search on him and I think you will find out he has worked on more "junk" and has more mechanic experience than the rest of you combined. Anyone that was raised on a farm, owned a salvage yard and worked on JB trucks probably has been around enough to know when a piece of equipment is a "lemon".

Massey1155

Posted 3/28/2023 10:22 (#10161451 - in reply to #10160899)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

NW Iowa

Judging all of Massey from one little yard tractor is what started it.
All mfg have problems at some point.
Even as simple as these little Massey's are, you still need a service book to start to diagnose things.
I own one for every piece of equipment i have. Easy to do. But you still need to be able to read schematics.
As to being foreign built, should have done research on the tractor before buying it.
The tractor is clearly stamped.
And yes he might have gotten a lemon, or he has a bad wire and maybe something poorly adjusted.
We don't know, because we don't know the history or troubleshooting info we have.

oldbones

Posted 3/29/2023 10:58 (#10163032 - in reply to #10161451)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Floyd County, Iowa

If you're looking for another 1155, my neighbor's widow and kids are going to get rid of their 1155. Been sitting in the machine shed for quite a few years. They want to get it running for the consignment sale next week.
They've been selling off the equipment a piece at a time for the last few years. The husband passed away in 2014, and nothing has been used since.

hillfarmer

Posted 3/30/2023 02:51 (#10164057 - in reply to #10163032)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

need pictures

Massey1155

Posted 3/30/2023 12:22 (#10164738 - in reply to #10163032)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

NW Iowa

always, but the devil is in the details.
Send pictures, or a link to the sale

oldbones

Posted 3/30/2023 12:53 (#10164783 - in reply to #10164738)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Floyd County, Iowa

Will do, when available. Going to the sale yard Saturday to look at all the treasures, so if they get it running and it's there, will take pics and post them here, or text them to you both.

hillfarmer

Posted 3/30/2023 13:27 (#10164819 - in reply to #10164783)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

oldbones - 3/30/2023 13:53

Will do, when available. Going to the sale yard Saturday to look at all the treasures, so if they get it running and it's there, will take pics and post them here, or text them to you both.

Ten years' ago, an 1155 was at a sale waited and they got ready to sell it
and said can't start it it has water in oil

wasted a bit of my time

oldbones

Posted 3/30/2023 17:40 (#10165138 - in reply to #10164738)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Floyd County, Iowa

Massey and hillfarmer-

Just talked to them. Not going to have it ready for this sale on Monday. The neighborhood mechanic is going to get it out and take it to his repair shop where he can work on it properly. As I said, been several years since it was started and ran, so first thing is fuel issues right now.
When they get it out of the shed, I'll do what I can to get some pics and some contact information, and send it to you.

Don aldG

Posted 3/27/2023 18:23 (#10160436 - in reply to #10159325)
Subject: RE: Never another Massey here ....

Peoria,IL.

I would get a series 4 D17 gas. 170 good too. Over 50 years old, good for another 50. Good hyd. and 3 point.

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