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hammlipps
Posted 12/2/2022 11:26 (#9961413)
Subject: fierce herbicide


W.C. MN

Just wondering the performance for the guys that have used Fierce herbicide.  Does the residual hold up?  Soybean injury?? etc.  Thanks

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Moose333
Posted 12/2/2022 11:56 (#9961451 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


NW Wisconsin
Fierce Dry 3.75 oz 3 pts thundermaster pre didnt get sprayed again on drilled beans... 10 weeks is no joke for residual on it. 8 weeks I would say for sure with proper activation. Injury can be more if it is cold and wet but more than pays in weed control for sure...
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earp
Posted 12/2/2022 13:04 (#9961540 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide



Manila, Ar
It does have a risk of injury to the beans, but usually at emergence with cool/wet weather........I've seen injury to the point of replanting........I've seen it work so good that only one post app was needed..........darn good product
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ithinktoomuch
Posted 12/2/2022 14:14 (#9961629 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


NCKS
Very good residual. Slight risk of injury when chasing planter especially early but very rarely have a replant situation. I assume it would have almost identical performance to authority Supreme but you would then have the option to switch to corn with fierce.

We build our own with Anthem Maxx and generic Flumioxazin. It's cheaper plus we split up our Anthem to half pre and half post. We also bump the valor rate to 3oz rather than 2.5 in fierce.
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southMN89
Posted 12/2/2022 18:23 (#9961941 - in reply to #9961629)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


SC MN
Except the cadet in that mix is worthless pre…..
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il weedman
Posted 12/3/2022 07:10 (#9962538 - in reply to #9961941)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


St. Charles, MO & Piper City, IL
Actually it is free
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ithinktoomuch
Posted 12/3/2022 09:09 (#9962763 - in reply to #9961941)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


NCKS
The Cadet is irrelevant. Pound for Pound, anthem Maxx is the cheapest way to get zidua that I know of

Edited by ithinktoomuch 12/3/2022 09:20
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IN Grain Farmer
Posted 12/3/2022 14:27 (#9963294 - in reply to #9962763)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide



SE Wisconsin
Echo the cheapest pyroxasulfone price is in Anthem Maxx, IDC about the Cadet but it does help a little with burndown in notill
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kb ag
Posted 12/4/2022 10:03 (#9964492 - in reply to #9963294)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


nc ks
On certain weeds it helps a lot
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farmer in training
Posted 12/2/2022 15:05 (#9961688 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


NW MN
I've used it for 3 or 4 years, spike a little metribuzin, has worked good, and going to use again. Had some crop response this year, but ended up being best beans I've ever had.
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cornfolio
Posted 12/2/2022 17:10 (#9961845 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


NW Iowa
I also spike it with a little metribuzin. Good residual. I have never had an issue with harming any beans but I have heard a heavy rain as the bean is emerging can cause some injury to the plant.
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bigcorn02
Posted 12/2/2022 19:22 (#9962038 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


Quit using it cause it killed just as many beans as it did weeds. And it's very good on weeds
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Survivor
Posted 12/3/2022 07:32 (#9962567 - in reply to #9962038)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


Moreauville LA
bigcorn02 - 12/2/2022 19:22

Quit using it cause it killed just as many beans as it did weeds. And it's very good on weeds


Pretty much the consensus here. Id rather up the rate of zidua or anthem than put fierce.


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southMN89
Posted 12/2/2022 19:26 (#9962047 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


SC MN
The best bean pre on the market hands down
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jhal
Posted 12/2/2022 19:31 (#9962059 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


WC Iowa
Quit using fierce because I thought it was hard on soybeans. Worst injury I've seen with it was soybeans treated with Ilevo planted, chased that planter out of the field with Fierce and then it rained. First gulp of water was nuclear to those beans. Lessons were learned.
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ithinktoomuch
Posted 12/3/2022 09:11 (#9962770 - in reply to #9962059)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


NCKS
I don't think you're supposed to use PPOs and illevo together
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Ringo539
Posted 12/2/2022 20:08 (#9962134 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


West-Central IL
Used fierce xlt for yrs
Never chased the planter. Always tried to get it down BEFORE the planter pass.
Can still be hard on beans if cold and wet.

On a case by case basis have had beans that did not need a post spray.
Very good residual but can be risky on ilevo beans.
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PearTrees
Posted 12/2/2022 20:18 (#9962156 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


Northwest IOWA
We got Fierce MTZ last spring as Zidua Pro was in short supply, We had a terrible time with it not flowing out of the 2.5 gal jugs , unless we used warm water and rinsed 5 X ... also had numerous tip and screen plugging episodes with it ...Im not sure I would ever use it again ...
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southMN89
Posted 12/2/2022 20:22 (#9962164 - in reply to #9962156)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


SC MN
Simply tipping the boxes upside down the night before you use it cures the issue 100%
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Baby Robin
Posted 12/2/2022 23:33 (#9962389 - in reply to #9962164)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


Fontanelle, IA
southMN89 - 12/2/2022 19:22

Simply tipping the boxes upside down the night before you use it cures the issue 100%


24 hours tipped upside down doesn’t bust or break up the globs, liquid clumps, laffy-taffy type consistencies of lots of jugged chemicals. Should you try it? Yes. But, it only gets the settled chit to glop off the bottom.

Wonder where all the AI is?
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johnny skeptical
Posted 12/3/2022 07:10 (#9962536 - in reply to #9962164)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide



n.c.iowa

southMN89 - 12/3/2022 07:22 Simply tipping the boxes upside down the night before you use it cures the issue 100%


not hardly… 

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bobbyg
Posted 12/3/2022 12:09 (#9963094 - in reply to #9962164)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


EC IL
It wouldnt the jugs i had. Yhat stuff was like glue. Had to be old. Maybe…
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southMN89
Posted 12/3/2022 12:27 (#9963118 - in reply to #9963094)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


SC MN
No just the Metribuzin settling out
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alphacharlie
Posted 12/2/2022 20:33 (#9962181 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


Minnesota
have used more valor than fierce, but have used both. Valor is cheaper and but watch crop injury as others have said. Fierce has 2 modes of action, which is nice,b ut also costs more. Good product. Watch the leaf splash potential with any PPO, had a lot of response this year when beans emerged before it rained, then got a rain that splashed the chemical up on the cotyledens. Only really seem to hurt them in the low OM type ground.
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southMN89
Posted 12/2/2022 20:37 (#9962188 - in reply to #9962181)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


SC MN
You can have cheap chemical or good weed control. You can’t have both
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Kollyn
Posted 12/2/2022 20:35 (#9962185 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


hammlipps - 12/2/2022 11:26

Just wondering the performance for the guys that have used Fierce herbicide.  Does the residual hold up?  Soybean injury?? etc.  Thanks



With 6 oz of Fierce EZ you get 0.0797lbs of pyroxasulfone (2.45 oz Zidiua SC) and 0.0628lbs of Flumioxazin (2oz Valor SX). If you have heavy grass or waterhemp I would want a bit higher rate of Zidua. The max rate of Zidua SC is 5 oz on Medium soils. Adding metribuzin to Fierce is a good idea. Attached is a Purdue article with some good information.

Fierce can be hard on beans if it's cold and wet. Especially if you use ILeVO seed treatment. ISU recommended spraying it a week or so before planting. The thought behind it is to get rain on the herbicide before the soybeans emerge.

Edited by Kollyn 12/2/2022 20:46




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Attachments Which Residual Herbicide Should I Use for Waterhemp Control in Soybeans_ – Purdue Weed Science.pdf (3908KB - 284 downloads)
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Kollyn
Posted 12/2/2022 20:47 (#9962203 - in reply to #9962185)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


From Wickman Chemical

Edited by Kollyn 12/2/2022 20:48




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southMN89
Posted 12/2/2022 20:51 (#9962207 - in reply to #9962203)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


SC MN
Some old pricing there. If not I’d be buying 3 years worth at those prices
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Kollyn
Posted 12/2/2022 20:55 (#9962220 - in reply to #9962207)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


Ya, it's a year or 2 old. Nice way to compare rates and products
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southMN89
Posted 12/2/2022 20:56 (#9962221 - in reply to #9962220)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


SC MN
Yes it is. I saved it. Thanks for sharing
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KAD
Posted 12/2/2022 20:42 (#9962194 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


WC MN
Have used Fierce for years but I may have to change if Ilevo affects it. Going to a double rate of Ilevo for nematodes next year.
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ehoff
Posted 12/2/2022 22:55 (#9962369 - in reply to #9962194)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


Central Missouri
What rate is a double rate?
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southMN89
Posted 12/2/2022 23:33 (#9962388 - in reply to #9962194)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


SC MN
I would switch to a Peking variety. Cheaper and way more effective than a double ilevo rate
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johnny skeptical
Posted 12/3/2022 07:11 (#9962539 - in reply to #9962194)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide



n.c.iowa

We’ve been using saltro with good results, at least no screwed up soybeans on emergence.

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SteveMn
Posted 12/3/2022 12:45 (#9963141 - in reply to #9961413)
Subject: RE: fierce herbicide


Every time this week fierce had a commercial pop up on gas pump screeen at Kwik trip.
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