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iwag
Posted 10/17/2022 18:50 (#9890822)
Subject: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


Looking for a new corn head to run on my 2388. Need input on pros and cons of 2206 and 3206. Which is better? Anyone have a good one for sale?
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JAnderson
Posted 10/17/2022 19:00 (#9890828 - in reply to #9890822)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


McCanna, ND
Run a 3416 and a Deere 616C. I think the IH head can be made to run as good as the Deere, but it’s not very good out of the box imo. Our Deere is a high cost maintenance nightmare but for how much better of a job it does it’s worth the extra cost.

We are putting more “knifes” on our 3416 so it will have 8 like a geringhoff NorthStar. I feel like the 4 knives don’t give enough speed/traction/pull compared to 8 flutes/knives. Ran out of time this year but I will be putting on calmer deckplates that basically turn the IH into a Deere 93 series deck plate style. The IH deckplates are a plugging nightmare

Basically if you want to tinker to make a alright and very cheap to run head, look at IH. If you want a maintenance hog that eats corn in any condition with factory parts, buy a Deere.
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560HighCrop
Posted 10/17/2022 19:11 (#9890840 - in reply to #9890822)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


west central Iowa
We have a 2208 and like the job it does, but feel the row unit gearboxes are a weak point. I was wondering if gearboxes are the same on a 22 vs. a 32 series head? I think the 32 has the water pump bearing out front, which is different than the 22 series.
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AVP_Matt
Posted 10/18/2022 08:08 (#9891470 - in reply to #9890840)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


Hennepin, IL
Gearboxes aren't even the same from an early to a late 2200. There's a serial# break somewhere around 2004 that updated the gearbox. It would include the last few HAJ #s and all the CBJ #s if anyone is shopping. We just got a 2208 with the late gearboxes and second iteration of the row unit slip clutch and its been trouble free so far. It has the full Calmer kit now and for the most part I love it. About the only issue we're having is it's leaving things a bit scraggly in goosenecked corn. I was also told ahead of time the Calmer rolls work best when the stalk either has life yet or completely dry. They'll be a little subpar when the stalk is rubbery after a killing frost. So far I'd say it's pretty accurate but not as bad as I was prepared for. Anything above where the stalk is cut off is still obliterated.
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Kooiker
Posted 10/18/2022 08:21 (#9891489 - in reply to #9891470)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206



AVP_Matt - 10/18/2022 08:08 Gearboxes aren't even the same from an early to a late 2200. There's a serial# break somewhere around 2004 that updated the gearbox. It would include the last few HAJ #s and all the CBJ #s if anyone is shopping. We just got a 2208 with the late gearboxes and second iteration of the row unit slip clutch and its been trouble free so far. It has the full Calmer kit now and for the most part I love it. About the only issue we're having is it's leaving things a bit scraggly in goosenecked corn. I was also told ahead of time the Calmer rolls work best when the stalk either has life yet or completely dry. They'll be a little subpar when the stalk is rubbery after a killing frost. So far I'd say it's pretty accurate but not as bad as I was prepared for. Anything above where the stalk is cut off is still obliterated.




IMO, the Calmer rolls do best when the stalks are standing straight/upright so they enter the head smoothly and have some life in them yet.

Our corn is all goose necked from several wind storms this year + its drought corn with very dry and very spindly stalks.   Our fields are more ragged this year than they've ever been since having the Calmer rolls.   Once in a while when we get in a area that the corn has a little green in it yet the stalk chop improves greatly.


What exactly was the problem with the gearboxes on the early 2200 heads?    IIRC that head was just a rebadged New Holland head which was just a copy of a JD head which in the year 2000 had been around for 30 years already.


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AVP_Matt
Posted 10/18/2022 09:01 (#9891557 - in reply to #9891489)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


Hennepin, IL
I'm not positive, you always just hear they "went out". Don't know if that means they stripped splines on a shaft, stripped/broken gears, cracked housing, or something else. I know the second iteration held up quite a bit better and I thought might have even been the same gearbox they used on the 3000 but maybe not. I always wondered if it had something to do with the knife setup they put on the 2000's since the NH heads all basically came with fluted rolls up to that point. Too much spreader load on the gearbox housing maybe? Too much torque? I know there were quite a few late model 90 series Deeres that shelled gearboxes around here when they came out with their knife rolls.
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Baby Bull
Posted 10/17/2022 19:58 (#9890898 - in reply to #9890822)
Subject: DO NOT GET THE 2206!!!


NE Iowa
Worst head ever. Basically a new holland head and like someone else noted the gear boxes are junk.

The 3206 is a way better head.

Now, if I were you I would look for a series one Drago. Great durable head. It is by far the best head we have owned.
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Baby Robin
Posted 10/17/2022 23:44 (#9891220 - in reply to #9890898)
Subject: RE: DO NOT GET THE 2206!!!


Fontanelle, IA
I’m with Baby Bull on 2208 series head ranking as 1 of the worst heads. If your terrain allows your 2388 to shell 200+ bushel corn at 7-8 mph, maybe… just maybe they fit. They head shell something fierce with corn less than 17-18 percent because there is only fast and super fast setting in the gearboxes off the feeder house shaft. We snapped off the driver sprockets on the snap roll gearboxes all the time - maybe 2-3 a season in the cold weather.

They were a new Holland head that was painted red…. New Holland’s have variable speed feeder house drives like the old 6600 and 7700 series John Deere combines….. if you could vary your feeder house speed with an 88 like their yellow siblings- they might work.

They are cheap for a reason…..
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Kooiker
Posted 10/18/2022 08:23 (#9891493 - in reply to #9891220)
Subject: RE: DO NOT GET THE 2206!!!



Baby Robin - 10/17/2022 23:44 I’m with Baby Bull on 2208 series head ranking as 1 of the worst heads. If your terrain allows your 2388 to shell 200+ bushel corn at 7-8 mph, maybe… just maybe they fit. They head shell something fierce with corn less than 17-18 percent because there is only fast and super fast setting in the gearboxes off the feeder house shaft. We snapped off the driver sprockets on the snap roll gearboxes all the time - maybe 2-3 a season in the cold weather. They were a new Holland head that was painted red…. New Holland’s have variable speed feeder house drives like the old 6600 and 7700 series John Deere combines….. if you could vary your feeder house speed with an 88 like their yellow siblings- they might work. They are cheap for a reason…..




Isn't there sprockets on the end of the head in the oil bath that you can change to slow the head down just like you do on a 1000 Series CIH head?



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Baby Robin
Posted 10/18/2022 12:55 (#9891828 - in reply to #9891493)
Subject: RE: DO NOT GET THE 2206!!!


Fontanelle, IA
There was a tech update publication on sprocket ratios vs travel speed. Hardest part was always trying to find a decent sprocket combo setting as our yields and terrain /speed can fluctuate within a crop year. My contention was always that the snapping rolls were way too fast for the gathering chain speed. You could run the lugs of each side’s chain opposite to make them pick trashy / minimize or ATTEMPT to minimize butt shelling but you couldn’t pick towards the middle of the deck plates. Always picking towards the front of the head/snapping rolls
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wire farms
Posted 10/18/2022 21:46 (#9892493 - in reply to #9891220)
Subject: RE: DO NOT GET THE 2206!!!


Nebraska
I was not aware the ih combines didn't have variable speed feeder houses. Everytime I learn something new about a different brand I say to myself (New Holland had that 40 years ago). And the 996 nh corn head which I believe is the 2200 series case ih was a hell of a good corn head. I'm in a heavily populated NH combine area so red stuff doesn't really exist around me, amazing how different some people's opinions can be.
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billonthefarm
Posted 10/17/2022 20:18 (#9890940 - in reply to #9890822)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


Farmington IL
I have a 2208. Been over quite a few acres, Works well and has required minimal repairs. Some guys sure hate them but I have had a good experience with mine.
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hinfarm
Posted 10/17/2022 20:37 (#9890986 - in reply to #9890940)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206



Amherst WI
Same here
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ih_farm
Posted 10/17/2022 21:19 (#9891073 - in reply to #9890940)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


Centralia, MO
Coming from a 1083 to a 2208. The 2208 does a real nice job. It has the hydraulic deck plates and that’s been a real eye opener to see how much less corn I loss. I think the 1083 did a little better processing the stalks. But so fair I’m happy with the upgrade.
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west illini
Posted 10/17/2022 21:38 (#9891106 - in reply to #9890940)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


IL
I just completed my second season with my 2408, and like it better than the 1063 it replaced . With tge hyd stripper plates I can more easily adjust it to No shelling
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WestSidePark
Posted 10/17/2022 22:16 (#9891170 - in reply to #9890822)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


3206 has longer stalk roll
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tc806
Posted 10/18/2022 04:42 (#9891254 - in reply to #9891170)
Subject: RE: Case ih 2206 vs 3206


Casey IL. ( I -70 ) then south on rt.49
I have had my 2206 for 10 years . I've not had any trouble with it. I like the job it does. I run it on a 2388. Width wise is very close in mud I would like to have an 8 row.
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