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Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger
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zman
Posted 10/7/2021 17:36 (#9257704)
Subject: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


NW Ohio		Just curious if anyone has ever replaced the 855 that is in any of the Case IH four wheel drives with the 1150? Will it even fit? Just curious if it can be done or if anyone has ever done it.
Don't need a new motor yet but just wondering for future reference.
Thanks.
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jd4930
Posted 10/7/2021 17:38 (#9257707 - in reply to #9257704)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


Central ND		Have you ever priced a kt? Or parts for one? I would almost bet $100 you could completely rebuild an 855 for what you would pay for a kt engine.......
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71307140
Posted 10/7/2021 17:41 (#9257712 - in reply to #9257704)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


Central Illinois - west of Peoria		KtA is quite a bit longer , way expensive to run versus the 855 . If I had a choice it’d be a mech N14 .
KTA could be had with a no 1 sae bell housing so I’d guess the rear end would bolt up.
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TheGleaner
Posted 10/7/2021 18:22 (#9257769 - in reply to #9257704)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


ND		15k 15 years ago to rebuild just the heads on an 1150. I'm guessing its double now, or in the range of a decent used 1150.

I can get measurements for you if you want, I've got a couple
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TheGleaner
Posted 10/16/2021 21:22 (#9272753 - in reply to #9257769)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


ND		55 long, 50 tall, 15 front of radiator to pulleys. 40 wide.

Roughly anyways.
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JAnderson
Posted 10/7/2021 18:40 (#9257789 - in reply to #9257704)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


McCanna, ND		KTA weighs almost 2x of a 855 and is much larger. As stated KTAs are significantly more expensive then 855s. Unless you have a need for 450hp+ a 855 or N14 is the most economical solution.
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Steiger Man
Posted 10/7/2021 19:43 (#9257878 - in reply to #9257704)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


Sunburst Montana		Guys around here actually replace KTs with 855s or newer engines because of cost of the KT. Also I don’t know how much the size difference is because I swore somewhere in my old truck magazines Cummins advertised the KT had the same length as the 855 between the front cover and bell housing. Course the KT would be taller. They did use these engines in semis.

Edited by Steiger Man 10/7/2021 19:44
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AGDEAL
Posted 10/7/2021 19:50 (#9257892 - in reply to #9257704)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


Illinois		Agtalk member “Coup” has done what you are talking about. I’m pretty sure his was a 9180 but I don’t remember
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coup
Posted 10/16/2021 21:45 (#9272803 - in reply to #9257892)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


USA
AGDEAL - 10/7/2021 18:50

Agtalk member “Coup” has done what you are talking about. I’m pretty sure his was a 9180 but I don’t remember


The base tractor is Tiger 470. Cab and hood came off 9170. Hood had to be made bigger to ,make work. So you were pretty close as it looks like an overgrown 9000 series CIH when you seen it. Thought he might get it out of the shop this fall, but looks like it won't get finished till this winter now. Will be green when it gets done.
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WR460
Posted 10/7/2021 21:23 (#9258146 - in reply to #9257704)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


Shawneetown Illinois		Would the powershift transmission hold up to that much power? Due to parts availability, you definitely don’t want the manual tranny.

The most power I’ve seen in front of the Fuji/Twin Disc type tranny was 425 hp, at least from the factory. Deere 9400s and Versatile 2425s. Not for sure if Case ever used a powershift in the 9390s.

Also, could the axles take 525-600 hp long term?

Edited by WR460 10/7/2021 21:38
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WTW
Posted 10/7/2021 21:28 (#9258161 - in reply to #9258146)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


Winkler, Manitoba Canada
WR460 - 10/7/2021 20:23

Would the powershift transmission hold up to that much power? Due to parts availability, you definitely don’t want the manual tranny.

The most power I’ve seen in front of the Fuji/Twin Disc type tranny was 425 hp, at least from the factory. Deere 9400s and Versatile 2425s. Not for sure if Case ever used a powershift in the 9390s.


Versatile put the 1407 Twin Disc into the 435 for awhile before they switched to the Cat TA22.

Edited by WTW 10/8/2021 06:43
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Bigshot
Posted 10/8/2021 04:32 (#9258397 - in reply to #9257704)
Subject: RE: Cummins KTA 1150 in 9170 CaseIH Steiger


I think you'd be asking for trouble putting a KT 1150 in there, for all the above reasons.
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