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NWOHfarmer
Posted 7/10/2017 20:55 (#6117803)
Subject: JD 4020 ROP


Looking for a used factory ROP for a 4020, do not need the canopy but would consider if available. Aftermarket ROP would work also. Thanks.
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dual wheels
Posted 7/11/2017 03:27 (#6118181 - in reply to #6117803)
Subject: RE: JD 4020 ROP


West Central Ohio,Shelby County
Go on Indianapolis Craigslist,farm & garden. Type in John Deere 4020, There is a place in Connersville Indiana that has an ad for Aftermarket JD ROPS. They say they are below JD list price. May be what you are looking for. HTH,

Dale

Edit for spelling

Edited by dual wheels 7/11/2017 03:29
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ASG
Posted 7/11/2017 11:45 (#6118815 - in reply to #6117803)
Subject: RE: JD 4020 ROPS


SWMN
Put a new ROPS on my 3020 last year (same as 4020) under the ROPS rebate program and the kit was 805.00 with a 70% rebate. Did a self install and ended up costing 241.50 after rebate.

FWIW Deere has a program that ROPS is to be sold at COST (dealers should not mark up the kit per Deere notes that dealer should be able to see, some dealers will mark it up but ask them to check the notes from Deere that the item is to be sold at cost) and when I looked into it the OEM ROPS were cheaper than aftermarket

AR51416 is the kit from John Deere and includes all hardware and the seat belt (ROPS w/o seatbelt is useless). Picture below shows price from JDparts
Check with your local state Dept of Ag as they may have a rebate program.

Edit to add:
The biggest motivator for installing ROPS is my daugher, she needs a dad when she grows up. Thinking about having a fabricator built me some canopies (dimensionally the same as OEM at 1/4 the cost)

Edited by ASG 7/11/2017 11:52




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wildcat1000
Posted 7/11/2017 22:52 (#6120207 - in reply to #6118815)
Subject: RE: JD 4020 ROPS


C IL
Please ensure to follow through.

Farm magazine showed awesome welded up ROPS, and it was attached with cheap redirod.

Rod failed and tractor rolled on over, with bad results
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ASG
Posted 7/12/2017 08:27 (#6120629 - in reply to #6120207)
Subject: RE: JD 4020 ROPS


SWMN
Worked on ROPS and FOPS structures in the past and would never build my own. The canopy is not a part of the ROPS and is mild steel $500 to build, $1625 to buy and I have it drawn up in Creo already from several that I have measured. I have had a few people express interest in buying a canopy if I would like to build a bunch of them. Severaly have asked if I would build the support too and I have told them that they can buy the ROPS from Deere through the rebate program for around $240, which is less than it will cost to build a support bar and the fact that it is a lot easier to sell them another canopy for their next tractor when the ROPS saves their life since dead guys don't seam to spend much money.

The Deere ROPS kit includes bolts. I had a defective bolt with poor threads; Deere covered the bolt under warranty and it cost $26.50 (8 used on ROPS)

I always use the seat belt while mowing road ditches and slopes.

Edited for clarity

Edited by ASG 7/12/2017 12:39
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ASG
Posted 7/12/2017 12:34 (#6121096 - in reply to #6118815)
Subject: RE: JD 4020 ROPS


SWMN
As far as I Know, several years back, around the time ROPS became standard, the major manufactures (Deere, Case-IH, New Holland, AGCO) were involved with ASABE ROPS requirement and IIRC they agreed to sell ROPS at cost to encourage farms to install them on older equipment and this is why you can buy a 240 lb ROPS for $805 from Deere and the canopy is over $1600 (non ROPS component and thus not sold at cost).

As far as the rebate program, the program that I used was through MN Dept of Ag for any tractor used on a farm that did not have ROPS. All brands are eligible. They did provide a lift of ROPS suppliers for my tractor including both OEM and aftermarket options were you can purchase them. I chose to use the OEM solution since I liked the factory looks of the Deere ROPS. ROPS for IH (OEM or aftermarket) will qualify and IH should sell them at cost, but like some Deere dealers they might apply their standard parts markup so just casually remind them that the they are to be sold at cost. I had to have my dealer look in Deere's system to find the note that dealers were to sell at cost and dealer adjusted price per Deere note.

Here is the link to ROPS R 4 U
https://www.ropsr4u.com/

ROPS are designed to meet the requirements of ANSI/ASAE S478.1. Several different loads are applied to the ROPS structure during testing, several of which require the ROPS structure to deform a controlled amount to absorb energy, much like the crush zone on a car. Over built components can cause other parts in the ROPS system to fail which in turn compromises the "clearance zone". This is why ROPS is a system and the roll bar is a component of the system. As an engineer, considerations are made to choose correct bolt size, plate thickness, gusset size, etc, etc. Bigger is not always better since larger diameter bolts are more rigid and thus may not be suited to absorb energy that may be necessary to project another component in the system.

FWIW some companies out there do build canopies and canopy supports, these are not ROPS certified and thus do not qualify for ROPS rebate programs since the programs require certified ROPS be installed. ROPS certification is not cheap and most of those companies chose not to do the testing and these often do not include the seat-belt which is critical to ROPS success; the seat-belt is essential to keeping you in the clearance zone. Some of these aftermarket cannopy supports may be dimensionally the same as a factory ROPS, but they are not ROPS since they are not certified by the manufacturer. I looked at a couple of these for my 3020 before I found the program and figured that the $100 savings was not worth the risk: 1) no seat belt = worthless in roll over 2) I noticed they were missing an internal gusset which I believe if needed for ROPS (why else would Deere have used the brace if it was not critical to passing a ROPS test since it cost them more to added it)

All in all I am proud of the fact that I installed a ROPS on my 3020 and I am proud of the fact that I use the seat belt. The seat belt is a pain when raking road ditches (old NH 56 rake), but like I said in the previous post : though of my daughter growing up with out a father makes me put the seat belt on every time I get on the tractor. I will admit that I do not use the seat belt in the yard while backing wagons in the shed and driving around in the yard (our yard is flat with the only slope being in the road ditch by the house)
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marlinpain
Posted 7/11/2017 12:36 (#6118924 - in reply to #6117803)
Subject: RE: JD 4020 ROP


45 miles south spingfield il.
Have cab form 4010 or 4020, it has rops inside. 2one 7 47three 9one 63 seven hundred dollars
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