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yellowfever
Posted 4/3/2014 07:09 (#3793713)
Subject: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


Have any of you tried hauling silage in the V-style live bottom trailers? Specifically the flapped belt style of trailer similar to what they haul DDG and potatoes with? Have never been around one much, but i figured there would be bridging problems and the rear gate would have to be redesigned to swing completely out of the way.
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T800
Posted 4/3/2014 07:29 (#3793762 - in reply to #3793713)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage



Lee Co		I can't answer about a small belt like they use for blacktop. bit we have been hauling silage with trinity belts. 48" belts and never a problem. trailers are 102" wide and you can see on their web site the different ways you can get doors. we had a flip up on one and had no trouble, and now have the swing door they opens completely. you can haul anything in them from rock to grain. very versatile.



www.trinitytrailer.com

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hes_33
Posted 4/3/2014 07:59 (#3793825 - in reply to #3793713)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage



Byron, WY		We have Aulicks and they never bridge.
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SHOOT DEERE IT IS
Posted 4/3/2014 08:03 (#3793840 - in reply to #3793713)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


WI		Haylage, corn silage or both?

What size belt?
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CS_307
Posted 4/3/2014 08:55 (#3793995 - in reply to #3793713)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


Ohio		I've been around a Wilson and a Western and there was only one time where I saw the Western have trouble bridging in haylage. They both worked great in corn silage.
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Big Ben
Posted 4/3/2014 09:12 (#3794017 - in reply to #3793713)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA		I would not attempt to use a potato trailer, the 24" belts aren't wide enough.

Wide belt trailers will work but they don't unload very fast.
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milofarmer1
Posted 4/3/2014 17:35 (#3794821 - in reply to #3794017)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage



Texas/New Mexico Stateline
Big Ben - 4/3/2014 08:12
Wide belt trailers will work but they don't unload very fast.


Depends on how they are set up. I've used a couple Aulicks and have a big pump on my truck and they unload plenty fast. I never timed it but I would guess 60-90 seconds.
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farmerjayTX
Posted 4/3/2014 10:07 (#3794104 - in reply to #3793713)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage



Nazareth, TX		We run trail kings and westerns, typically we tarp so we're not loading them tall enough that the gate is a problem. What I've seen is that if you are stacked so high that the gate is an issue, then you're likely exceeding the weight limits of the belt, which means you will need a shovel.
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durallymax
Posted 4/3/2014 12:18 (#3794352 - in reply to #3793713)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


Wi

I wouldn't want to do it with a very narrow belt like they use in construction and for potatoes, but the larger belts do just fine.

We run a Trail King ASHR-2 4284 with a 64" belt.  

I would not be worried about exceeding the belt's limits especially on a trailer sized for DDGS, silage is much lighter and you probably will barely hit 80k.  I've overloaded ours a lot with ag lime or canola and its never an issue. They use the same dual planetary drives on their large 4 axle models so I am not too worried.  

Bridging has never been an issue with ours but it is a very large belt.

If you will be doing a lot of silage hauling, wireless controls are nice. Make sure to add an interrupt though so that the belt cannot start until the door is open.  Twisted the big door on ours once due to this and popped the knife gate out once as well. Both were easy fixes, but also could've been prevented. I just put a push button switch where the door flange seals up top, that way the door has to be open 6" or so on the bottom before it will allow the signal to got the valvebody to start the belt.


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Edited by durallymax 4/3/2014 12:18
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customfarming
Posted 4/3/2014 16:37 (#3794741 - in reply to #3793713)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


Good Ol' East Texas		Yes they do bridge in silage. We chop and hire trucks and run with guys that have belt trailers from 48in to 54in belts. They all bridge if the conditions are too dry and slow unloading. I have seen them bridge in corn especially dry corn all the time and slow down the pit because of it. Grass silage is the worst and grass has to be on the wet side or it will bridge and take forever to unload. I have seen guys that take 45 minutes or longer to unload silage with belt trailers. A 48 ft belt trailer if loaded heavy with corn silage you will be over or around 100k lbs.
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durallymax
Posted 4/3/2014 16:50 (#3794760 - in reply to #3794741)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


Wi

Ours has never bridged with haylage from 50-70% moisture as well as grass silage, sorghum, corn silage, HMSC, dry corn, etc etc.  Never had an issue unloading anything. It takes longer to unload than the Northern silage trailer that replaced it, but I'm talking a few minutes versus a couple minutes. We run a 30gpm pump.

What kinda trailers were taking 45 minutes to unload? A walking floor is faster than that sometimes. Smooth or segmented belts?



Edited by durallymax 4/3/2014 17:57
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Big Ben
Posted 4/3/2014 20:23 (#3795210 - in reply to #3794760)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA
durallymax - 4/3/2014 14:50

What kinda trailers were taking 45 minutes to unload? A walking floor is faster than that sometimes. Smooth or segmented belts?


That's how long it takes the driver to pitch bridged material down onto a belt that is too narrow.

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easydon
Posted 4/3/2014 21:12 (#3795404 - in reply to #3795210)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


weve hauled alot of silage out of the field both corn and hay. never had corn bridge up and we fill the trailers so its rolling off all sides as high as possible. we have top hinge rear door with 48" flap style belt full poly liner. in hay however we try to go a foot above the bows or so depeinding upon how much bounce time we have until we get back to the bunker. if your going a ways you can fill a little more. we have bridged a few times on the rear header with big piles and the belt will spin underneath. its alot easier to take a bit smaller load and get it to unload smoothly.
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durallymax
Posted 4/3/2014 21:31 (#3795471 - in reply to #3793713)
Subject: RE: Live bottom belt trailers hauling silage


Wi		Also worth noting that choppers like to bounce flex bows out of their holders so take them out ahead of time if you don't need to tarp. Otherwise you can bolt them in too.

Trail kings door opens high enough for heaped loads to clear but for the tarp to stay closed they put a permanent fabric piece at the rear. Take that off before silage too or feed can pile on it and tear it.
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