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Kansas | How were some of the early no-til folk able to go about it back before it really took off in the late 80's? The first time I ever saw anything about no-til was an AC planter brochure showing the planter planting in the same field a Gleaner was cutting wheat in. Did AC do anything to the planter besides just stick a plow coulter on the fertilizer bar? I've seen pics of the old Buffalo planters but I'm not sure what they did to make them work. And what about drills? How were people making them work in corn residue before hyd down preasure and before heavy duty down preasure springs? |
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Southeast North Dakota | I think one of the first no-till drills was the Yielder. It was only like 16' or 18', and it was heavy enough and had large enough blades to penetrate concrete. If you've ever seen one you won't forget it. They were discontinued sometime in the 90's I believe. They had a tank mounted above the tool to carry seed, like a press drill. A neighbor a few miles away still has one sitting in the corner of the shed. It's quite a machine. |
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NW Washington | I think Allis Chalmers had some of the first no-till planters on the market.
Some the first no-tills drills I remember were the Haybuster drills, and they are still making basically the same drill. The Bettison no-till end wheel drill from the UK which became a Melroe and then Lilliston and was also sold as a MF drill was one of the early no-till drills too. It had a straight coulter in front of the double disc openers. Then there was the monster Yielder drills made in the PNW by the same folks who now make the Exactrix NH3 machines. Yielder drills were first called Pioneer drills until the seed corn folks complained. When did the John Deere 750 arrive on the scene? I think the 750 really got the no-till drill business going. |
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Southeastern Kansas | We double cropped tons of bean acres during the the AC planter time frame with a 7000 JD planter. Worked very well as long as you kept the boxes over half full. Also did lots of wheat with the JD double disc 8300 drills. Worked well in soybean fields esp if you got to harvest the beans when it was a little dry, then get a shower and get after it with the wheat drill. Also planted lots of corn stalk ground into wheat with the 455 JD drill. Wet harvests were the down fall of those past programs but not sure it is much different today even with our no till equipment. |
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Princeton, Indiana | Purdue had a no till mounted corn planter on an M back in the 40's or early 50's. Saw it at the state fair a few years ago. Seems like it had a cultivator shovel just in front of the planter |
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Centralia, MO | I remember a neighbor getting an early AC planter and planting some double crop beans for my dad in the early 70's. It was basically a coulter on the front frame and a double disk opener unit. Then a year or two later the AC dealer brought around a 2 row !!! demo unit. Dad tried it in some corn stalks and promptly broke a coulter off. After that we didn't try no-till again until the 7000 planters came out. |
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Lapel, In | Tye was the first drill used in this area. Great Plains came next. |
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Dallas Center IA 515-720-2463 | Allis-Chalmers did not use comman plow coulters on there no-til planters.
The A-C coulters had about a 2-3" flute on them. Also the rubber spring forcing the coulter down.
BTW: The A-C fluted coulter made a PD good plow coulter. |
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middle TN | I still use an old AC no-till planter, but there is an older one here I rob parts off of. My dad bought a new planter with, I think, #76 units in about 1972(before my time), the planter I run now is the same with the exception of having fiberglass boxes instead of molded plastic. It will do fine if you GO SLOW. 2-1/2-3 mph tops and you will get a stand. I replaced the DblDisc openers a few years ago, that helped prevent plugging seed tubes in wetter soil. The wide fluted coulters on the front will make a ditch if you get in hurry or set them too deep, just take your time and it works OK. Most in this part of the world have moved on to more up-to-date machines, but I usually only plant 30 or so acres(if that much) for silage, and cannot justify a newer planter. Sometimes I have to hang a few suitcase weights on the brackets where the fertilizer boxes used to be to get it into the ground. Parts availability is somewhat of a problem, as there isn't a dealer within 100 miles that stocks any parts for these planters. When I run out of spares on the fence row machine, I guess I will update:)
Jared
Edited by JFDairy 4/26/2009 14:17
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Beresford SD | Listers were early no till for planters. I remember the ones around here listing had to pack all there corn after planting. http://www.antiquetractors.com/contents/adpic106.htm
Edited by Curt Keiser 4/26/2009 17:40
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CND | Concord out of Fargo ND helped a lot of guys get started in no-till. |
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Gettysburg, PA | Any pictures?
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W.C. Mo. | We used a mounted Buffalo planter with the units moved to 20 inches to plant DC soybeans in the late 60's. |
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Princeton, Indiana | I remember looking at one of those up close and personal in about 1987 or 88 out around Brush, CO. The one that I looked at had the terra tires on the back and the NH3 tank between the tires. Were all of them set up this way?
To say they were "heavy" would be an understatement. You really have to call them massive and you would not want one of those things on a wet field!
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| Any of you guys ever use any equipment made by the Strohm company |
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What were the first no-til drills and planters?
