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| seeing the pictures below of the ih plowing, wondering how good the 4166 or 4186 trctors were. how big tillage equiopment can you pull, ie plow, field culivator, disc, pull as mean in the ground working.
Edited by cho 11/13/2006 14:46
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Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND | The weak point seemed to be the transmission. I dont remember a 4186 in the area,but most of the 4166 ended up in the salvage yards because of a failed transmission,usually a bearing out and pounds of ground metal in the trans case. |
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| The pics had 43/4586s running. the 43 we have has a roadranger truck tranny seemed to be rock solid.
We pulled a 28 foot disk at about 5mph.
7-20s onland plow at about 4.5 mph, and a 6 shank subsoilerat about 4 mph. It didnt light the world on fire, but we got the work done.
Kinda badass when it would pull out on the headlands and the front would raise a three feet before the subsoiler would come out of the ground.
Edited by RICK NCMD 11/13/2006 13:56
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| It appears these tractors have V-8 engines which would give them the 4566/4586 designations. The red topped cab is a 4586 I believe. These tractors were built by Steiger for IH and had IH engines and rear ends. That is how they have inboard planetaries. The engines were rated @300 hp, if my memory is correct.
Edited by bduke 11/13/2006 14:02
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Texas | those are 45 or 4786"s .the 47 was the same ih v-8 engine but with a little more fuel . the 4366/86 had a dt 466 set at about 200 h.p. . correct the tractors were steiger built units with IH engiines and diffs .the other 4wds are IH 2+2 tractors , most common was 3588 at 150 pto h.p. . the 4166/86 was a straight frame tractor with steerable axles ,it started out as a 4100 with i think a IH dt 407 engine at about 140 h.p. ,the later 4156,4166 and 4186 were very simular . im pretty sure the 4186 had a dt 466 @150 .neat pictures ,being a red guy id love to have an old v-8 IH 4 wheeler ,but the engine parts for the v-8 are scarce and pricey. some have been repowered with cummins 855"s and L10/M11 engines. |
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Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND | Yep, 43-45-47-- 66-86 is a whole nother critter than the 4166-86. Steiger built with the Roadranger trans and I believe Steiger drop box,but IH drive axles. Trans and drop box was good in those models. The IH axles were a bit light to pull the full power of that engine if in a situation where one axle had good dry traction,and the other was in mud. |
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Southeast Florida | Having had a lot of red in the shed I wouldn't own any onf the old IH 4 WD's. The 4166 and 86 was just like a ridged frame CASE of that era and it had the 436 engine. The 66 had a red to and the 86 a black top no other difference. The 4386 had the DT 466 at 225 hp, 4586 VT 800 and 4786 VT 800. The 4386 was by far the best of these tractors. I haven't seen a VT 800 running in years and after they were repowered with the Cummins the axles broke soon afterwards. |
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Clark county Illinois | I'm still using a '77 4386, and like a previous poster said, it'll get the work done but it won't set the world on fire.
It's been a good tractor, I've had a 26' Do-All hooked up to it quite a bit, and it doesn't have any more horses than it needs for that job.
Mine has a little over 5ooo hours on it. About 1000 hrs ago, a bearing went out in the dropbox, but I caught it before anything major happened.
Also, I've noticed lately that I can hear a valve ticking, so it is probably getting time to do a little work on that DT466. |
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Boone, Iowa | We used to have a 4366 and a 4386. We used a 4166 for a week or so when a bearing went out in the transfer case of the 4366. These had DT466 engines with intercoolers(we added one to the 66). I thought our 43's would outpull a 9130 we demoed one spring. We pulled a 27 ft. 490 disk, a 37 ft Wilrich field cultivator and a Glenco Soilsaver. A few years later we bought a DMI 530B chisel plow for the 4386. We installed the Bosch inline pump set at 230 h.p. and made a world of difference. The IH V-8 engines did not make happy owners. The main problem was fuel leaks developing at the injection pump seal and leaked fuel into the engine oil. Many cranks were destroyed from this problem. They were neat sounding V-8 engines. They came from the factory that allowed them to power on 6 cyls and then 4 cyls as you throttled back, in memory serves me correctly. Many eliminated this feature. |
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NCIA | tommyw-5088 - 11/13/2006 14:26
those are 45 or 4786"s .the 47 was the same ih v-8 engine but with a little more fuel . the 4366/86 had a dt 466 set at about 200 h.p. . correct the tractors were steiger built units with IH engiines and diffs .the other 4wds are IH 2+2 tractors , most common was 3588 at 150 pto h.p. . the 4166/86 was a straight frame tractor with steerable axles ,it started out as a 4100 with i think a IH dt 407 engine at about 140 h.p. ,the later 4156,4166 and 4186 were very simular . im pretty sure the 4186 had a dt 466 @150 .neat pictures ,being a red guy id love to have an old v-8 IH 4 wheeler ,but the engine parts for the v-8 are scarce and pricey. some have been repowered with cummins 855"s and L10/M11 engines.
Dont mean to contradict ya but the 4100/4156 had a dt 429, 4166/4186 had the dt 436. |
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IH 4166 or 4186 tractors?so 4386 decent tractor?
