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Dave SE ND
Posted 11/11/2006 23:15 (#60599)
Subject: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help


We have a 9610 that only chops and spreads soybean residue about 20' of the 30' head. What can we do to make it spread wider? We have adjusted the deflectors to wider at the back, but it does not help.
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Tony Bone
Posted 11/11/2006 23:30 (#60606 - in reply to #60599)
Subject: RE: This is what we put on our 9600 pic



North East Iowa
Put in a TSR chopper rotor and JD wide spread kit. It will throw 30' easy.



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EJB ( SK )
Posted 11/12/2006 07:58 (#60669 - in reply to #60606)
Subject: RE: This is what we put on our 9600 pic


I put a Redekopp MAV rotor in mine and am happy with it after two years. Spreads 30ft easy with the JD widespread fin kit which I see in the pic's you have also done Tony.
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ChrisTN
Posted 11/12/2006 08:58 (#60690 - in reply to #60599)
Subject: Re: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help



Ethridge, TN
Depends on just how much money you want to spend. I started with the 9600's putting on the wide spread kit(tailboard/fins) from Deere, and have never had a problem being able to spread the full width of a 30' head. The only thing that effects it is just how much cross wind you have. You do have to keep the chopper hammers in good condition, as once they really start to show rounded corners on the leading edge, you have to either change them or flip them over.
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Dave SE ND
Posted 11/12/2006 09:07 (#60694 - in reply to #60606)
Subject: RE: This is what we put on our 9600 pic (For Tony)


Tony,

How is the TSR different to your original John Deere chopper? The last guy posting from Ohio said by adding the extended tailboard fins (that you also added) he was able to spread 30'.
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Sidedresser
Posted 11/12/2006 09:34 (#60705 - in reply to #60599)
Subject: Re: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help



Southwest Indiana
Just a thought, make sure you have the chopper on the high speed pulley. Be sure to put back on low speed for corn or you will destroy the bottom pan on the chopper.
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dave swia
Posted 11/12/2006 10:16 (#60714 - in reply to #60669)
Subject: redekop is hard to beat


sw corner Ia
I have one and the original small rear fins, and it will spread 25' in the narrowest setting. Great chopper. Get the carbide blades, they wear extremely well.
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BHTN
Posted 11/12/2006 10:31 (#60718 - in reply to #60599)
Subject: I'll tell you what we did



West Tennessee
I had the exact problem you are having with a 9610 and 930f. I put my chopper knives in about 1/2 way (I was running with them all the way out) and lowered the tailboard just a little from level where I had been running it. I got mine out to about 25 ft this way and I've settled for that. I wasn't willing to spend the money on the high dollar choppers, and I figured they'd be expensive to work on, get parts for etc. I've got enough issues like that with my air reel, which I do like. I think the bigger fins might get me to 30ft and that's on the agenda to try next year. Good luck and post back at some point and let us know what you wind up doing and how it works out.
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Tony Bone
Posted 11/12/2006 11:53 (#60746 - in reply to #60694)
Subject: RE: This is what we put on our 9600 pic (For Tony)



North East Iowa
Actually just adding the JD wide spread kit will get you to 30'. I think it was under $300. We wanted to cut the straw up finer so thats why we went to the TSR chopper, it has 2 knives that cut on each side of the stationary knife instead of a hammer. Worked well this year and couldn't notice that it took anymore power to run. The TSR chopper rotor was about $1950.



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bigblock4x4bronco460
Posted 11/12/2006 12:29 (#60754 - in reply to #60746)
Subject: nice combine


Breckinridge County, Kentucky
that is a really nice combine, do you have any pictures of it in action?
justin
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Tony Bone
Posted 11/12/2006 13:03 (#60766 - in reply to #60754)
Subject: RE: Thanks Justin..



North East Iowa
I don't really have to many action pics. because I'm usually in the seat but here are a few others of the ol' girl. The 1 picture is what the knives look like after 1 season of soybeans. We don't do any corn with this machine so the knives won't get beat up as fast on cobs.................When you say "nothing runs like a deere" it reminds me of this guy in the bottom pic. I know it isn't a deer but, if it wasn't on the other side of that fence I would be running like a deer. Heh Heh! Thanks Justin whats going on in Kentucky this time of year?



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ChrisTN
Posted 11/12/2006 13:45 (#60778 - in reply to #60718)
Subject: Re: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help



Ethridge, TN
I'm not sure that just putting the deeper fins on your current tail board will get you what you really want. Never tried it tho, so maybe it would work.

The wide spread kit is more than just the deep fins. The tail board is actually raised up, as you replace the spacing piece on the back of the chopper, plus there is an extension that makes the bottom pan longer, to make sure the material is actually directed into the fins.
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deeredriver
Posted 11/12/2006 14:06 (#60790 - in reply to #60766)
Subject: Re: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help


Alma NE
that combine looks well taken care of
and them elk look like the little elk farm in central city nebraska
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dave swia
Posted 11/12/2006 14:11 (#60793 - in reply to #60766)
Subject: wear on chopper blades


sw corner Ia
here is what my redekop carbide treated blades look like after a season of corn and beans.

about 250 hrs use, slow speed on corn. Redekop supplied a drive pulley that actually speeds the thing up over the stock, don't know how much, but it now howls.

Tony, does the dust diverter on your feeder house work ok?

Your machine looks awfully sharp.

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Tony Bone
Posted 11/12/2006 14:49 (#60810 - in reply to #60793)
Subject: RE: She works Dave



North East Iowa
The dust sucker works very well especially at night. I use to go thru a lot of reel teeth from pushing dirt and not knowing it until the reel stopped, but now I can see the cutterbar at night. Thanks
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dave swia
Posted 11/12/2006 15:40 (#60831 - in reply to #60810)
Subject: dust sucker


sw corner Ia
good enough for me. so where do I get one? thanks, tony.
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commissioner
Posted 11/12/2006 17:47 (#60855 - in reply to #60599)
Subject: RE: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help



southern Illinois
Dave, i had the same problem this year with a 9650w i bought, it wouldnt spread over 20 ft no matter what i adjusted. read a jd bulletin about header flighting being the biggest problem with chopper spreading on the walker models. so my 925 header does not have removeable auger flighting so out came the grinder with cutting wheel and off came 4 inches on each side. that made a big differance but still had 8 inches on each side wider than the feederhouse entrance which measures 57 inches on mine. so of came another 6 inches from each side of the auger. and i had to narrow the spreading fins on the back of the combine to keep from throwing into standing crop. worked for me and didnt cost a dime to fix right.
H P
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Tony Bone
Posted 11/12/2006 18:14 (#60860 - in reply to #60831)
Subject: Re: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help



North East Iowa
We got it used from a JD Dealer. I'll take a look tomorrow and see who made it. This model has a electric motor and the neighbor has 1 that is hyd. driven both work well.
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bigblock4x4bronco460
Posted 11/12/2006 18:22 (#60862 - in reply to #60766)
Subject: RAIN!!!!


Breckinridge County, Kentucky
not to much of anything really around here, won't stay dry enough to get in the fields. Have one more 50-60acre field of corn left and can't get to it with the case ih 2344. Been the wettest year my papaw has ever seen. We have never been short on rain. Lots of tobacca crop lost and lots of bean fields under water. Muddy'd up all the fields we've been in. Only been stuck 3-4times this year on the combine i believe lol. hasn't been a time this fall to get a truck in the field without the help of a 4wd tractor! hows everything where your at?
take it easy
justin
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Tony Bone
Posted 11/12/2006 18:33 (#60867 - in reply to #60855)
Subject: Re: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help



North East Iowa
Don't you think your feeding to much material onto the outside edges of the cylinder then Harlan and not enough into the middle? NOT trying to start anything just asking you said your using a 25' head maybe the flighting is different from a 30'. When ever I look at my rasp bars they are always shot on the outside edges. Thinking about taking a few outside fingers off of auger to try and push more material to center of cylinder. I'm not worried about spreading the straw with my set up, can already get it out there 30' no problem. A good even feed across the cylinder is priority.
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Tony Bone
Posted 11/12/2006 18:43 (#60871 - in reply to #60862)
Subject: RE: SNOW!!!!



North East Iowa
Had some of the white stuff the other day. Didn't stick around long thou. We have a couple days of corn left and lots of fall tillage that we would like to get done. See what happens..........Grundy County, Iowa.........Good luck Justin
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commissioner
Posted 11/12/2006 19:30 (#60891 - in reply to #60867)
Subject: Re: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help



southern Illinois
Well i wasnt feeding any to the out side the way it was, they told me to watch the machine from the back and see how much trash was coming out the outside fins and i did this and there was hardly none. changeing the auger the way i wos told to helped that and now when behind the machine it looks to be very even all the way across the chopper. i think i wasnt using the outside of the cylinder bars at all. just usedthe machine one season so cant tell about ware on the bars yet. Ill watch that. all i know it that it works good now. I have only used combine in beans and corn, havent cut wheat yet.
thanks

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commissioner
Posted 11/12/2006 20:08 (#60906 - in reply to #60867)
Subject: tony



southern Illinois
my auger flighting is 53 inches apart now
was around 40 inches when i started, if you think about it the next time your by your 30 footer, i d be interested to know what it is. thanks
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Tony Bone
Posted 11/12/2006 22:17 (#60969 - in reply to #60906)
Subject: Re: 9610 Straw Chopper - need help



North East Iowa
I'll check it out Harlan, its got me curious to. Maybe there is something different with the feederhouse opening between a 9600 and a 9650 too?
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Tony Bone
Posted 11/13/2006 20:55 (#61270 - in reply to #60906)
Subject: RE: Measurements Harlan...



North East Iowa
The flighting on my 930 which hasn't been touched as far as I know is roughly 49". And the opening on the 9600 feederhouse is 56". So I guess your end result is pretty close to where I'm at now. I think I'll just leave the fingers alone ( all in ). Thanks for the good talk Harlan.
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Tony Bone
Posted 11/13/2006 20:59 (#61273 - in reply to #60831)
Subject: RE: dust sucker - for Dave



North East Iowa
Here's what the tag says Dave: Tebben Enterprises................Clara City, Minn. 56222...............Model 48-100.............I don't recall what was paid for it. Have a good 1....Tony
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dave swia
Posted 11/14/2006 07:23 (#61430 - in reply to #61273)
Subject: RE: dust sucker - for Tony, thanks


sw corner Ia
I will investigate further...
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