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duishay
Posted 3/8/2009 22:45 (#636737)
Subject: black machine planter bars


SE Nebraska
How do these work? I have seen several advertised that say 12 row but they look like 6 rows with a splitter behind. I am assuming they unfold and bring the rear units forward so that they are inline with the front units?
Thanks for the help
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briannnebo
Posted 3/8/2009 22:55 (#636755 - in reply to #636737)
Subject: RE: black machine planter bars


Nebo, Kentucky
Yes, it folds out to plant 30" and in to plant 15".
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duishay
Posted 3/8/2009 23:07 (#636775 - in reply to #636755)
Subject: Re: black machine planter bars


SE Nebraska
Do they flex at all or is it more like a straight bar when folded to plant 30" rows?
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CW IL
Posted 3/8/2009 23:15 (#636787 - in reply to #636775)
Subject: Re: black machine planter bars


Effingham, IL
They made them both ways ridged and flex. The flex bent in the middle and required two drives. Craig
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briannnebo
Posted 3/8/2009 23:15 (#636790 - in reply to #636775)
Subject: Re: black machine planter bars


Nebo, Kentucky
I've seen them both ways. I think the first ones that came out did not flex, and the later models did flex.
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dmswil
Posted 3/8/2009 23:50 (#636845 - in reply to #636790)
Subject: Re: black machine planter bars



mascoutah, IL
Just traded one on a new kinze. It was a 97 model with rigid frame and kinze units. If you have time to replace bearings and work on the drive unit than this is the palnter for you. Bought it new and fought it 11 seasons. They used to be somewhat popular around here but everyone has had the same problems as us. Don't get me wrong, it is a cheap way to get to 15" row beans but the reliability is terrible. Ours was mnit condition, just rebuilt and brought $12,500.
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holster67
Posted 3/9/2009 00:08 (#636866 - in reply to #636737)
Subject: RE: black machine planter bars



Eldridge, Iowa
I have a White 6342, 12 row with the flex. One trouble I have is getting it locked into place when folding it up, and sometimes unfolding it. Mine has some age on it and there must be some wear in the pivot points, etc. I don't like the hassle of getting it ready to plant 15" soybeans. It a couple hour job or more as you have to shorten the markers as well and add the 13th row since I don't like to keep it on the planter in the raised position. Not sure I would buy another one.
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Brassring
Posted 3/9/2009 06:45 (#636989 - in reply to #636866)
Subject: Re: black machine planter bars


St.Clair Co. IL.
We have one but use it mostly for 15" row beans like it but yes it does have some issues, like front and back consistence,Doug what kind of bearing and row unit issues did you have, we can't seem to get the same rates out the back units as the front but as far as bearings it's not much different than our deere corn planter.
Bob
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nitram
Posted 3/9/2009 09:23 (#637122 - in reply to #636737)
Subject: Re: black machine planter bars


wc mo
wheel bearings gave me fits, finally tapped hub and put in zerk. Loved center flex for planting terraces, drive right down the top. Got boring going from 30 foot down to 17 foot for beans. Planter pulled easy, used a worn out 4230, could always tell where the planter was by looking for the smoke.
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jfg5
Posted 3/9/2009 10:00 (#637171 - in reply to #636737)
Subject: RE: black machine planter bars


I have a white version from the mid 90s. Mine does not flex, it is a 6242. A flex version is a 6342. I have lost a wheel bearing but had it loaded with seed roading it quite a ways ( something the manual says not to do). The 13th row has given me trouble in the past ( unplug the sensor while planting corn or the monitor alarm will sound continuously). The fold controls just take some time getting used to. There are 4 diferent levers (two sides of back/forward and in/out). After a while you move them without much thought. I mostly just use mine for corn but have seeded some beans. For the money, it is a good dual purpose planter.
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PeteMN
Posted 3/9/2009 13:40 (#637351 - in reply to #637171)
Subject: RE: black machine planter bars


E.Central MN
I've never owned one, but going by the price history they must be a decent machine. Usually when machines are not one of the major ag companies they become less popular over time and the value drops way off. They seem to have held their value.
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Ltfire
Posted 3/9/2009 17:17 (#637496 - in reply to #636737)
Subject: RE: black machine planter bars



North Central Iowa

I bought a White 6342 last year, which as others mentioned is a 12r30", 13r15" planter that flexes in the middle.  I did some work to it, but nothing related to the frame and I don't see where there would be any issues with it that you couldn't have with any folding planter.  The front units are a little bit of a pain to fill when the unit is folded for beans, and the access isn't great for working on them either, but it's better than having all of the row units on the same frame for 15" rows (which is what I changed from).  My planter has the optional wing lift wheels, which is an extra wheel on the outer section of each wing that you use when it's folded out for 12 rows.  I think that you would have a lot more wear in your toolbar if you didn't have these wheels to support the outer section when you raise up at each end.  When you're planting 15" rows, you just turn a valve to hold these wheels in the up position all of the time.  The only bad thing is that they pretty much fill up the space between two row units (like most planter wheels) and so there's that much more to work around.  Overall, I like the planter and love the White units compared to the finger pickup planters that I ran in the past.

Mike

Edit:  If you want to see how these planters fold and unfold, they show a diagram on the White website if you look through the planter literature for the 8200/8300 series (at least they did last year).



Edited by Ltfire 3/9/2009 17:19
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DC97
Posted 3/9/2009 20:05 (#637705 - in reply to #637496)
Subject: RE: black machine planter bars


I wouldnt wish this planter on my worst enemy . We have a 6342 white or agco that had fertilizer on it and if it wasnt wheel bearings it was transmission bearings. and the straw that broke the camels back was when the frame broke in two with only 1/3 of the acres on the board. But the end of the story got better when the John deere planter came and finish planting and we never had to put a wrench to it . thank god that planter is in our shedfor this season
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