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North Iowa | I like probably a lot of people did not get the tillage done this fall on my corn on corn acres like I would like. Have been talking with some people and thinking a vertical tillage tool might be a good option this spring. What are some good and bad about the different kinds and when everyone has seen ? |
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20 Miles West of Indianapolis Indiana | What do you see as the advantage of a VT vs a good disc or one pass tool? All the VT’s I’ve seen leave a lot of residue on the top and I’d think that would be bad for Corn on Corn |
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n.c.iowa | There has been a salford enforcer running around in demo mode, might see if you can hunt that down. |
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Leesburg, Ohio | Trader: I cannot speak for all vt tools, but in our experience, the Krause Excelerator leaves a mich smoother seedbed than any disk I have ever used on stalks. It leaves the root balls in the ground instead of tipping them up and leaving them to create a huge rough mess that can’t be smoothed down and disturbs the smooth operation of the planter row units. It loosens enough dirt to hold trash from blowing, let stalks decay faster, and let soil warm and dry faster, without digging enough to make it too rough. |
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Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska | Landoll, so I can have the blades rolled to keep them sharp. A must for any disc blade. These other styles of blades don't work so well when they become dull and the only way to sharpen them is to grind them. |
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jackson county WI | I run a regular case 330 turbo till. I don't believe it is a true "vertical" till machine but it works for me. It buries a lot of trash. I refer to it as a glorified disk, I have not seen the compaction layer that people talk about. I know it is not a nat approved tool but it works here. |
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Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells | richard240 - 11/27/2018 06:28
I run a regular case 330 turbo till. I don't believe it is a true "vertical" till machine but it works for me. It buries a lot of trash. I refer to it as a glorified disk, I have not seen the compaction layer that people talk about. I know it is not a nat approved tool but it works here.
Matt; it’s gotta be our dirt, as we have Case 330 turbo tills sense 2011 they work great here also, have not seen any compaction layer either.
Dan |
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SW WI | I agree....might be different tools for different soil types but my 330 serves me well. If money were no object I would have more iron for different situations. Oh and time to use them....can’t make more time...this is as efficient as I feel I can be. |
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NW ILLINOIS | We keep trying to find the best vertical tool. We have had
Landols, Krause Excelerator and others.
This past spring we used the Krause and it was ok but did
not fill in and eroded areas.
Hope to test a Joker in spring.
We have a two fold problem, lots of gently to steep rolling
ground.
We apply hog manure in the fall.
It seems that if we don't use our 870 then we end up with
spots that are compacted and won't produce near as well.
If we chisle then the hill sides seem to erode.
There is a article on here somewhere that explains how soil
looses it support as it is tilled.
Don't have any answers . Still trying to find the perfect answer.
This year we were going to try and not chisle several fields and
watch the performance, but wet fall, ruts, compacted areas where
we loaded and unloaded.
Edited by olf20 11/27/2018 07:23
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west central Iowa | We are just south of highway 20, in western Iowa. Our Turbo Max does a good job corn on corn. I have talked to people 40-50 miles north, and they are not as happy with vertical tillage in spring. They think they are wetter and cooler, and need more black soil showing. So spring vertical tillage may be dependant on your area. But we are very happy ‘here’ with our vertical tillage. |
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| Never seen one run, but Summer's new Renegade looks like a nice tool. |
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western wi | I put cobra blades on my McFarlane reel disk this fall, wow. its like a new machine. so my vote goes there |
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Northern Illinois | Love my 330TT |
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SE IA | GrainTrader - 11/26/2018 19:33
What do you see as the advantage of a VT vs a good disc or one pass tool? All the VT’s I’ve seen leave a lot of residue on the top and I’d think that would be bad for Corn on Corn
Cant speak for everyone, but a 1 pass soil finisher can plug in untouched stalks. A good disk is still a disk and it makes the soil extremely slabby when run in the spring.
The VT tool (Great Plains, cant speak for others) cuts residue every 3.5 inches and while it doesnt bury trash, the trash it leaves is extremely small and can be handled with any sort of row cleaner planter attchment. With the residue on the surface, you arent tying up your N with a high C:N ratio like how a soil finisher would mix all that trash into soil.
Its not my tool of choice (still like the disk ripper) for COC, but if cant get that done the VT does an 85% job where i can feel good about planting into soil instead of trash. |
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| Tough beat black in fall an field cultivator in spring here but gonna need some kind of vertical tillage for next spring as didnt get corn stalks worked.. |
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Saronville NE | The excellarator is only one on market with blades that will stay fairly sharp. Because of way blade is made.
What most don't realize a vertical till is not meant to fill in ruts or kill weeds it is truly meant to size and mix residue not run deep and throw dirt. Any vertical till you look at that has blades that get gradually smaller at the end is a glorified disk not vertical till. |
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| We ran a Sunflower 6631 in heavy stripper head wheat stubble that planted beautifully and worked great to warm the ground for corn. We have since went to strip till because the vertical till dried out or warmed up the ground too much in spots that missed rain (under 80 bu). If we had yields over about 80-100 it really helped. It wasn't run in corn stalks much, only to smooth small ruts, and our corn is only 1/2 of the stuff where you are at, but it seemed to do a nice job there as well. |
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New castle PA | Really like my Sunflower 6631 as well. |
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ne iowa | Pull an unververth crumbler behind a sunflower vt and satisfied. Once and plant beans or corn but use chopping corn head. Too much cattle manure and takes two trips to tear it up. Keeps rocks down also. Wife hates ripper as she runs rock picking crew. |
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Central MO | Anyone seen a deere 2660vt demo running around? |
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Western Wisconsin | nobody has mentioned Salford yet? I might be looking into one of those since they are popular around here? thoughts on them? |
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What vertical tillage tool is the best?
