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18c ditch system | Who sells the most? Deere? How do they work? |
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Northeast Louisiana | Deere sells most. They pretty much dominate the market.
How do they work... YouTube will be your best answer. As it’s a thousand things in a cotton picker. |
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Wallis, TX | Well,,, as of 18 Deere is the only one making them, as least in the USA and probably the world. (I have heard rumors the China reverse engineered the JD).
As to how they work. Best to google some pics and some older owners manuals. But here is an attempt. Spindles (barbed spikes) spin and wrap up the seed cotton. The cotton is removed by a rotating lugged disk (doffer) that is spinning faster than the spindle so, it basically unwraps the cotton. After that, it’s sucked up and put in a round baler.
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| Deere is the only one who sells them. |
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Northeast Louisiana | Stout Farms - 11/20/2018 16:43
Deere is the only one who sells them. Maybe for time being. But Case IH has been their competitor. We have owned several cotton pickers over the years. Green and red. |
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| SteigerSt320 - 11/20/2018 19:07
Stout Farms - 11/20/2018 16:43
Deere is the only one who sells them. Maybe for time being. But Case IH has been their competitor. We have owned several cotton pickers over the years. Green and red.
I thought Case was ceasing production of cotton pickers? |
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Northeast Louisiana | Stout Farms - 11/20/2018 17:23
SteigerSt320 - 11/20/2018 19:07
Stout Farms - 11/20/2018 16:43
Deere is the only one who sells them. Maybe for time being. But Case IH has been their competitor. We have owned several cotton pickers over the years. Green and red.
I thought Case was ceasing production of cotton pickers?
The deere round bale system is the way to go. |
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| SteigerSt320 - 11/20/2018 19:44
Stout Farms - 11/20/2018 17:23
SteigerSt320 - 11/20/2018 19:07
Stout Farms - 11/20/2018 16:43
Deere is the only one who sells them. Maybe for time being. But Case IH has been their competitor. We have owned several cotton pickers over the years. Green and red.
I thought Case was ceasing production of cotton pickers? Supposed to be. But still some left in pipeline to my understanding. The module system that case ih have sucks. Nobody wants that.
The deere round bale system is the way to go.
What is the 'pipeline'? |
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Northeast Louisiana | Since production. Still on dealers lot. Hasn’t been sold yet. |
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Zabcikville, TX | Hey Stout!!! It's CaseIH!!!! Ya know, the FIRST company to successfully build and market the mechanical cotton harvester??? I will agree with the other posters that the CaseIH module system is a joke. I bleed red, most here know that. But that system (1/2 modules) was a good idea!!!!!!!!! Poor execution. Kinda like the 2+2. |
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North MS | You can still buy 6 row basket picker. Do not know if old stock or not. Local case dealer just sold one a tier 3 for 2019 delivery. A basket picker not module maker. |
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South West Michigan | Other than ALLIS CHALMERS, did anyone else manufacture cotton machines? |
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SW “Ohia” | usrjcro11,
I’m assuming the people running basket pickers are using them with a module builder?
Is there anyone still hauling loose cotton in wagons or has that completely gone away? (I don’t know the proper name for this system.)
I don’t know much about cotton but have tried learning as I read on here.
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South Texas | Hesston |
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Northeast Louisiana | And rush |
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Crawfordsville, Arkansas | Red Paint - 11/20/2018 18:50
usrjcro11,
I’m assuming the people running basket pickers are using them with a module builder?
Is there anyone still hauling loose cotton in wagons or has that completely gone away? (I don’t know the proper name for this system.)
I don’t know much about cotton but have tried learning as I read on here.
Round balers aren't perfect. Wrap doesn't wrap correctly. Some bust. So yes there's a few trailers still running the roads. |
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North MS | Do not know anybody using wagons. Most gins retrofitted to module feeders using wagon suck pipes. Now they cannot gin trailers. |
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Lubbock, Texas | http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Montana_2826_cotton_picker
I believe Kuhn bought them and the picker has disappeared from their line up |
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| jfreed
Yes besides Allis Chalmers, CaseIH and John Deere other companies made cotton harvesters.
Here are a few companies that sold cotton harvesters, most were tractor mounted or pull types and a few were self propelled.
Oliver
Ford
Case
Hesston
IH
Minneapolis Moline
Ben Pearson
CMC
Boone
Rust
Probably a few more
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S.E. South Dakota | Why does only a couple company's build them? Very small demand? |
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Central Ga | SteigerSt320 - 11/20/2018 18:44
Stout Farms - 11/20/2018 17:23
SteigerSt320 - 11/20/2018 19:07
Stout Farms - 11/20/2018 16:43
Deere is the only one who sells them. Maybe for time being. But Case IH has been their competitor. We have owned several cotton pickers over the years. Green and red.
I thought Case was ceasing production of cotton pickers? Supposed to be. But still some left in pipeline to my understanding. The module system that case ih have sucks. Nobody wants that.
The deere round bale system is the way to go.
I was told recently that they will build to order. |
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Texas, the really flat part | 5288 - 11/20/2018 21:36
Why does only a couple company's build them? Very small demand?
Yes, it's a relatively small market compared to combines. FYI, the Deere Baler picker list price is just a bit under $1million. |
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Madison, Mississippi | Was it Rush or Rust? It had spindles about the size and shape of a pencil....with barbs |
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Wallis, TX | anton99 - 11/20/2018 21:19
jfreed
Yes besides Allis Chalmers, CaseIH and John Deere other companies made cotton harvesters.
Here are a few companies that sold cotton harvesters, most were tractor mounted or pull types and a few were self propelled.
Oliver
Ford
Case
Hesston
IH
Minneapolis Moline
Ben Pearson
CMC
Boone
Rust
Probably a few more
Op asked about cotton pickers, not cotton strippers. |
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| Blue and pink. At least they've reached for some originality in new color schemes.
http://www.sangbe.com/article/301801.html
"... As we all know, the domestically produced cotton picker has no disruptive breakthrough in technology. At this stage, it is still learning and imitating. The real subversion technology does not appear, and it is hard to rewrite the competition pattern of the industry. The only way to compete with foreign brands like Deere is low prices. Low-cost sales in the new machine is indeed able to form the Case, Deere impact, such as the Deer CP690 market price of 5.5 million yuan, 3-line machine made in China 1 million. As for how to choose the user to buy, look at the capital situation. ..."
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South West Michigan | anton99 - 11/20/2018 21:19 jfreed Yes besides Allis Chalmers, CaseIH and John Deere other companies made cotton harvesters. Here are a few companies that sold cotton harvesters, most were tractor mounted or pull types and a few were self propelled. Oliver Ford Case Hesston IH Minneapolis Moline Ben Pearson CMC Boone Rust Probably a few more
WOW!! Thanks for the information. Didn't realize there were so many brands of that type of harvesting machine. |
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n.c.iowa | Interesting read biscuit. |
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| twraska
jfreed asked a question, so I replied.
4beanpod
It was Rust, Massey Harris was a marketer for them. Later they became Ben Pearson. |
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Wallis, TX | So ford, Oliver, CMC and Minnie Mo made pickers or did they sell the Rust/Ben Pearson machine? Or,,,, did they offer a stripper? |
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South Eastern VA | Our area is dominated by Deere pickers. I think the case units I see are just sitting in the middle of the field because they caught on fire. Lol
The local gin stays pretty busy this time of year.
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| I see a huge problem with the pink one that screams "this 'picker will never go more than a round between conveyor plugs".
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Crawfordsville, Arkansas | 4beanpod - 11/20/2018 22:36
Was it Rush or Rust? It had spindles about the size and shape of a pencil....with barbs
Rust. |
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| twraska
Oliver and Minnie Mo did offer cotton strippers, no pickers. Oliver models were either pull type or tractor mounts. MM were tractor mounted.
The Ford stripper was made by Oliver , just in red and white Ford livery.
CMC bought out Ben Pearson . I've only seen a stripper not sure if a picker was available.
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South Eastern VA | Lol
I’m just glad I don’t grow cotton...to much crap to deal with! |
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Cotton pickers?
