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Idaho | Please.....anyone with experience or knowledge of the new 900 series Challengers with 4 singles? I guess they have around 450-500 hp and for tires use the floater-type softer tires, which may also be dueled. Thanks for any help and opinions... |
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East Central Ia | Demo’d a 1042 with dual big tires last fall.
It was a very neat tractor with a lot of cool features. The CVT plus the MAN engine took some getting used too for me.
Something was off though as the one we demonstrated burned a tank of DEF too half a tank of fuel.
We pulled our chisel plow with it that we normally use our MT855C (C15 475hp) with and it we had to raise the chisel up to maintain speed.
We then put our MT775E (400hp Sisu 9.7L 7cyl) on it to finish up after the demo was over and it pulled better then the 1042.
Local manure hauler runs a few of them singled up and likes them as far as I know.
Neat tractor and we would consider one when the time comes to update our wheel tractor.
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| I had the opposite experience. I owned a track 775 E and a 1042 Challenger. My 1042 out pulls my 775 E to my surprise. My 1042 has been flawless and amazing in pulling power. I pull 23 shank Roll-o-cone parabolic deep rippers. the 1042 pulls at least .5- 1 mph faster at the same depth. My 1042 currently has 2000 hrs of trouble free performance.
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East Central Ia | W Tex Cottonstripper - 9/3/2018 20:58
I had the opposite experience. I owned a track 775 E and a 1042 Challenger. My 1042 out pulls my 775 E to my surprise. My 1042 has been flawless and amazing in pulling power. I pull 23 shank Roll-o-cone parabolic deep rippers. the 1042 pulls at least .5- 1 mph faster at the same depth. My 1042 currently has 2000 hrs of trouble free performance.
Dale
Have you had any DEF consumption issues like I we saw? I wonder if the machine we ran had some software issue effecting power and DEF usage. |
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NW Ohio | I believe the OP is referring to the articulated series. That's the 900 series, correct? |
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East Central Ia | NHpower - 9/4/2018 06:16
I believe the OP is referring to the articulated series. That's the 900 series, correct?
Good catch... I missed that. Assumed he was talking about the 1000 series with that description. |
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ecmn | HigherHopes - 9/3/2018 20:28
Please.....anyone with experience or knowledge of the new 900 series Challengers with 4 singles? I guess they have around 450-500 hp and for tires use the floater-type softer tires, which may also be dueled. Thanks for any help and opinions...
the ones with big singles are probably coming off scraper duty.
they are build heavy. go to the website http://www.challenger-ag.us/products/tractors/mt900e-series-4-wheel... and compare specs to the others out there. very stout built tractors.
not very popular but the guys that I have met that have them like them. they pull.
if you get one with the c-18 engine you can have 750 hp for the cost of a tuner. then you have a pulling tractor!!
the V 12 had some crank issue in the beginning but they have that fixed.
I would take a 900 series before any other articulate based on heavy duty build.
I would also take a look at versatile based on a basic machine that is meant to pull and had a very good price point.
Claas Xerion would be an interesting tractor. if you need more then just a big drawbar tractor it would be pretty neat. front and rear 3pt and pto, 30 mph road speed, crab walk for packing piles.
deere would be the last articulate I would get.
Edited by easymoney 9/4/2018 09:32
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| My 1042 uses about 1 tank of def to 3 tanks of diesel under heavy load. Light loaded cultivation ; it uses much less def. Def consumption depends on load.
I noticed that also. The thread was an inquiry of the 900 articulated tractors. I have no experience with the 900 Challengers.
Dale
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The Internet | Why are they not more popular? |
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ecmn | The Pretender - 9/4/2018 16:27
Why are they not more popular?
look at there build specs compared to a john deere, then keep in mind that with challenger you have stores that are open till midnight with parts support and 24 hour service support. for the life of me if a person was truly looking at there dollar and specs of a tractor and dealer support like they claim there wouldn't be any JD articulates sold in this state. it would be dominate yellow with a lot of versatiles and stigers.
there was a topic were a guy was comparing 800 cat to a 9000 deere. guys responded that the cat pulled better and rode better and the john deere had a history of engine troubles. but they still went with JD so they could keep the farm green.
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The Internet | That's interesting. They are not sold this side of the Atlantic to my knowledge. I was under the impression that they don't go down 30 inch rows if that's even an issue. Wasn't there some issues with axles or transmissions or something? I guess all machine have issues and this may have been something that was blown out of proportion. Agco get a lot of flack on here but do seem to sort issues out. |
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ecmn | I thought the b or the C Series had a transmission issue? But when your base shipping weight is 10% more than John Deere's. Your axles are over an inch larger are. The gungeon and Center hinge area is massive compared to the green ones.
Funny how the green ones can have engine troubles brake axles and nobody thinks twice about it. But if an egg Cole has air conditioning trouble the whole lineup of tractors is Just Junk |
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MN | Axle issues and articulation bearing issues early on, but from what I remember it was mostly in scraper applications. Axles were mostly a manufacturing defect that got straightened out and campaigned fairly quickly. The articulation bearing went through a few different iterations to find one that would survive in scraper applications where a lot of these are used. That was also campaigned. They run a CAT PS transmission in them. They aren’t narrow enough for rowcrop. |
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WC MN & Valley of the Sun, AZ | JRM - 9/5/2018 17:34
Axle issues and articulation bearing issues early on, but from what I remember it was mostly in scraper applications. Axles were mostly a manufacturing defect that got straightened out and campaigned fairly quickly. The articulation bearing went through a few different iterations to find one that would survive in scraper applications where a lot of these are used. That was also campaigned. They run a CAT PS transmission in them. They aren’t narrow enough for rowcrop.
Can a MT900 straddle four 30" rows? |
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