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| Wondering which would be better for general loader,mowing and moving bales. Have a 4450 john deere now with no loader and would like to move to newer tractor with loader. |
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| A Cadillac is always better than a Chevrolet. By the way I have a Chevrolet. |
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| I'd have to go 6140R with the 6 cylinder engine. The 6140M is the same wheelbase with a 4 cylinder engine. A 6150M would have the 6 cylinder and is a good loader tractor. |
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chillicothe,mo. | I think the M has the four cylinder and the R has a six. If I went with the M I’d step up to the 150 I believe it has the six cylinder and better hyd pump. I just got a 6155R and I think it doesn’t give up any hp to our 4440’s and one of them is pretty hot.
I wouldn’t be afraid of the M series, the R has a lot of fluff that doesn’t add a lot of value to a hay/chore tractor. The cab is bigger on the R but the door doesn’t open much farther so it isn’t any easier in and out plus it feels like it will break if you put to much weight on it when you get out. Also you have no windows except the back one to open. On my old 30 series non premium you could crack a small window behind the doors if you needed to listen to what you were running. |
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| We went through the same scenario last year, we had a real nice 4255 that we mowed roadsides with that we wanted to update. We were looking at 1 year old tractors the state had leased for mowing. Started out looking at a 6140 E, thinking there was money to be saved. Read a lot of reviews on this site, mainly negative on the transmissions in this tractor and just the lack of creature comforts, and the reviews were right on! we ended up buying a 6130R with the shuttle transmission, and alot of extras. The only downside is it has flange rear axles, so we put on the wide spacers and turned out the wheels to get the rear tires spread out for more stability while mowing on steep ditch banks. Also put the wide fender flares on the rear to keep the tractor cleaner. You get what you pay for. |
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Ontario | 6140M is a 4 cylinder, R is a 6. The R also gives you the PFC pump, which if I’m not mistaken, will have more flow then an M and would make a nicer loader tractor, JMO. |
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Callao Missouri | Stay with the 6 cylinder engine. The 4 bangers are gutless. Local guy said never in his wildest dreams did he ever think he would need 2000 rpm just to feed a bale of hay.
Next drive one before you commit. Every one I have been on the clutch is in or out. Pretty dangerous for close quarters loader work. Maybe they can be calibrated to give better clutch modulation. The older 6400- 7510s were a lot smoother.
Last get the smaller door. It takes a lot of arm strong to close the big one when you're already planted in the seat. Also the small one is pretty reasonable when you bust it. Not if you bust it but when. |
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Manitoba, Canada | When my 6420 was in the shop I got to use an R series with a 6 cylinder to use for loader work. I’m not sure anymore what size it was. There were nice things about it but it was not an upgrade I would do for general loader work.
I didn’t like the huge doors either. They really don’t give much more room to get in and out but they grab the wind like crazy. For a tractor that gets used in all kinds of weather I don’t want big doors like that. I also found that in tight corners the bigger cab felt too big. Maybe it was more of a feeling than fact but it always felt like the cab was getting too close to gate posts and such.
As far as a 4 cylinder is concerned I’m surprised people find them gutless. I do have IVT and high pressure common rail engine is part of that package so maybe that makes the difference but I do all my work at an idle or just off idle. Maybe the emission crap makes the newer engines gutless though. I don’t know. Naturally the 6 does run a bit smoother though.
Having said that given the choices you mentioned I would still pick the R series simply because of the better hydraulics. Hydraulics make the tractor on a general loader tractor.
Edited by havin'funfarming 8/31/2018 10:54
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Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot | I've been looking at them myself. Ran a 6140M this spring for a bit to try one out, friend has one he had on a 15' vibrashank. I wouldn't call them gutless by any means. They get a lot of power out of that 4.5, and they've always been reliable for me. Actually, for the 'economy' line, I thought it was pretty nice machine. The R just has more crap to go wrong. If I can find an M with 3 remotes, that's what I'm going to buy this winter.
The door comment was spot on though, I'm kind of crippled so I pull on the door a little when I climb in or out. I swear the door on the R was going to explode when I did that, and can see the wind ripping it off. M was the same as some of my other tractors, like it better. |
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SC WI | The R’s are a better tractor.
I have a 6r with a powerquad. It is a very good all around tractor. I think the Ms have a different cab, different hydraulics and a couple other things.
A 6140R would be about 140 Pto hp.
A6140M would be about 140 engine hp.
Night and day difference. |
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6140M or 6140R John Deere
