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Chris22
Posted 5/27/2018 17:08 (#6781352)
Subject: Small square bale accumulators


Wisconsin
Looking at buying a small square bale accumulator to help speed up the baling process and save my back. Still very green in the idea and want to hear what brand is best and what size of accumulator works best for loading a 8' 1/2" wide flatbed trailer. I have heard good things about Kuhns AF-10. Has anyone ever regretted buying one? Has anyone ever had any issues with the accumulator not working as it should? Are the bales tight enough together to stack 6-7 without issue? We would be using a skid steer to load. Don't see many of these up this way so somewhat hesitant to jump feet first and wanted to get your opinions. Thanks!
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Marag90
Posted 5/27/2018 17:19 (#6781369 - in reply to #6781352)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Mount Forest Ontario
If I were you I would also do some research on bale barons. Just goggle bale baron, they are very efficient way of handling small squares
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combinejockey
Posted 5/27/2018 17:35 (#6781400 - in reply to #6781352)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


stay far away from a Bale Bandit.....
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sonic
Posted 5/27/2018 17:55 (#6781438 - in reply to #6781369)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Marag90 - 5/27/2018 18:19 If I were you I would also do some research on bale barons. Just goggle bale baron, they are very efficient way of handling small squares
  price on a bale barons?

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Granary
Posted 5/27/2018 18:16 (#6781474 - in reply to #6781352)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Central Western VA Mountains
I came very close to buying an accumulator/grapple for our haying. I really liked the Steffens (sp?) system, but really expensive. Kuhn accumulators have a great reputation and I hear their support is terrific. I know one guy that has the 1036F accululator and doesn’t like it. He has hills, but to be honest, I think there are some operator issues...

In the end, we did not buy an accumulator grapple system. I’ve got a full time day job, my kids are getting away from me as they transition from their late teens to early twenties. They have college, part time jobs - just a lot going on too.

What we settled on (for now) was a pan kicker for my JD348 square baler and converted our flat racks to kicker racks. I realize this seems like we are going back in time. However, with a day job and limited labor at the time of baling, I wanted a way to just get the hay baled and off the field before nightfall or an evening thunder storm. We are rigging our shelters such that I can fill the wagons, pull them in the dry for unloading later when more help is available or just cooler in the evening or next morning. My goal is to be able bale and get out of the field/under cover 1,000 bales in a day. With an accumulator, another trip is required onto the field - time right now I just don’t have.

This past week, we had a 3 day haying window. Day 3, showers were predicted late that afternoon. clouds started forming up around noon and by 1 pm we were baling. It never rained, but it was good to know that I could single handedly get those bales off the field and under cover ASAP by myself.

The pan kicker cost (they are plenty of used ones) was much cheaper than an accumulator/grapple setup too and that factored into our decision too.

I think though for most, kickers and kicker wagons are going back in time. These accumulators IMHO are the trend today. When I retire, I might consider one just to eliminate handling the hay.

I wish you the best of luck on your purchase.
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tater1086
Posted 5/27/2018 18:21 (#6781481 - in reply to #6781400)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Snipesville, GA
We have a Parrish Agri Turf accumulator and grapple. Love it. We also load with a bobcat in the field and unload with bobcat and hyster at the barn.

https://parrishagriturf.com/

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Patriot81
Posted 5/27/2018 18:45 (#6781517 - in reply to #6781438)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Farmington, Mo
$80-100K depending on how it’s equiped...good luck finding a used one but when u do most are still north of $50K
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IlHay
Posted 5/27/2018 18:46 (#6781521 - in reply to #6781352)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


C IL
This is our 3rd year with our Kuhns 1036. Love it! I wouldn't be doing small squares without it. I have two grabbers and two tractors and a forklift set up to handle them. Three of us did over 2000 bales in one day last week. We were in the same boat, couldn't find reliable help when it was time to bale. There is a learning curve to using an accumulator of any brand. Talk to people that use them for help and hints.
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4020pig
Posted 5/27/2018 18:55 (#6781529 - in reply to #6781352)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Farmhand was making them fifty years ago I don’t know that they are a trend or a fad. They seem to hold there value if you for some reason don’t like it. Skid loaders won’t let you stack as high on wagons or semi trailers you won’t be able to see what your doing as well as a tractor with a loader.
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tater1086
Posted 5/27/2018 19:17 (#6781556 - in reply to #6781529)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Snipesville, GA
Some more pics of our setup. Bobcat will only stack 8 high in shelter and 6 high on wagons. That’s 340 bales on a old 40 ft cotton wagon. We finish with our forklift up to 12 high.



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red1962
Posted 5/27/2018 19:58 (#6781618 - in reply to #6781352)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


west central indiana
we run Kuhn 10 bale on edge . like it no big issues with it . make uniform firm bale or your stack will look like a mess. biggest issue would be busted bale and cleaning it out of chute
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Hay Hud Ohio
Posted 5/27/2018 21:44 (#6781867 - in reply to #6781352)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators



SW Ohio
I have said it many times and will say it again, I have handled bales everyway that has been invented (except a barron, you couldn't give me one for free) and I now use the Steffen 950 and a telehandler with homemade grapple. Wife and I can put 1500 bales on wheels in an afternoon and hardly touch a bale. I can stack eight high by 30 per layer on wagons but prefer seven or six high, two ropes front to back and haul baby haul...
The Hoelscher will not allow you to stack a roadworthy load without modifications, the Kuhn looks good but have never used one, the drag on the ground models do not pass the smell test here.
just called the Steffen factory on a part number and realized I have had it over ten years and a quarter million bales, beyond the initial purchase price I have spent money only on grease and power washer fuel, and just this week one wheel seal that I messed up all by myself. That works out to be economical in my book
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Brian sepa
Posted 5/28/2018 05:58 (#6782170 - in reply to #6781556)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators



Lancaster County, Pa.
Tell me about the wagon. Do you have any pics?
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GT500KR53
Posted 5/28/2018 07:14 (#6782272 - in reply to #6781352)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


nebraska
Did you look on del Peterson auction coming up in June,, it has a Kuhn 1036 accumulator and grapple and the ih baler it was used with,. All separate,,,, out in Colorado?
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Badger
Posted 5/28/2018 08:37 (#6782394 - in reply to #6781352)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Huntley Montana

I have a 1069 & a 1089 NH stackwagons. 160 bales a load, 2-3 loads a hr apiece depending on haul. Build sheds to Fit, 20 foot clearance.

1 time in good hay with the 1069 I put over 10,000 bales in a stack in 1 day. 

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Saskyfarmer
Posted 5/28/2018 10:04 (#6782512 - in reply to #6782394)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators



East Central Saskatchewan
Exactly, after owning one of these I wouldn't even consider the fuss of having an accumulator set up. Pick up and stack , don't even touch the bales except maybe a couple odd shaped ones, and you get a lot done in a short time. Simple but effective.
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jd43
Posted 5/28/2018 11:37 (#6782612 - in reply to #6782512)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Northeastern Pa.
Buy a brush hog. Less fuel, labor, and input cost unless your feeding the hay or live were the market is still good.
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tater1086
Posted 5/30/2018 20:34 (#6786849 - in reply to #6782170)
Subject: RE: Small square bale accumulators


Snipesville, GA
These wagons used to be used to haul cotton to the gun before days of the module builder. The only thing we did was take off the expanded metal sides and brace the rear up. Email me and I’ll get more pics if you like. Sorry for late reply.
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