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SW MO | We currently are running a worn out NH 658 with 20k bales and are wanting to upgrade. What models do you suggest? Dad wants to get a 467 john deere, but I would like to stick with new holland. We have heard that the BR balers have some bale quality issues compared to a 658 but arent sure. Have found a couple of BR7070 in our price range. What does agtalk say? thanks. |
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| I would go johndeere we did about 12 years ago and never looked back. They are so much simpler to work on and operate and you don't need a ladder to load net wrap. |
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Hennepin, IL | Most of the problems with the br series were out by the time the 7000s came out. Net wrap will work flawless. The only issues you may have is with a wide pickup, the stuffer is a prone area to plug. The RB series fixed that issue. A 467 will be a good baler but a 7070 will be surprisingly similar to the machine you're running now. |
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sw wisconsin | depending on what you want, the 7070 with the knives make a nice bale, no trouble loading net wrap here....a few of the knives up makes a nice corn fodder bale,and a bale for a tmr |
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farmington missouri | ran JD 535 for about 10 years and moved up to a new Holland have ran it for about 10 years I think I had less repair with the JD !! |
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| We have run a NH 654 baler for quite a few years. It's been flawless. Last year, we bought a nice BR7090. I haven't got to run it yet, but my brother says he picked up a few miles per hour and it works much better than the older machine. He's glad he upgraded. Kept the old one for backup, but it won't get used much now.
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| Went from a NH 664 to a JD 567. No comparison and would never go back to NH |
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Lancaster County, Pa. | I just bought a 7070 last fall. I've only used is for 150 bales of fodder so i haven't used it enough to really comment. Before I bought I searched extensively on here and you'll find guys who love or hate almost every brand. Generally speaking however, most guys have good things to say about the net wrap system on the 70xx balers. Most like the fact that it's up front where you can see it. In my part of the world there are a lot of the 7060 balers and they really hold thier value. I would have considered deere. In the end I think the biggest issue is which dealer is closer/better. |
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| Listen too your Dad.
Parts for them can be found cheaper than Ma deere in down town Phelps. |
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Redickville, Ont | I went from Nh 648 which I hated, long story, to jd 458. On my second 458 and love them. Everyone has switched here. I tried nh 450 roto cut last summer and liked it. I like to see it bale straw first before I bought one.
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Saronville NE | I have ran a br780 and a 7090 specilaty crop and 3 568s. Here's my take the 7090 will make a nicer square sided bale, never have single issue with netwrap unlike JD. Easy to work on since all pillow block bearings from outside. Mine had just shy of 15k bales pickup had never been rebuilt I can't get a JD to last 5k bales. Weakness the driveshaft and CV joint way to small and weak for baler, we replaced it every 5k bales.
Jd easier to get parts in my area, make heavy big bales, will outeat the NH in every aspect. In dry hay both bout same in a tick tuff hay the JD will eat it's lunch. |
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Lawton MI | A couple of neighbors here have nothing but trouble with the net wrap on their JD balers and honestly I don't think they make the squarest bale. We run NH and have been happy, very low maintenance and nice bales. |
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SW MO | Thanks guys for all the help. Kind of sounds like a wash. I would like to stick with NH just because I know the balers and like to be able to see the netwrap assembly, however the closest NH dealer is 20 miles away compared to 4 for JD. Will probably go with what we determine is the most bang for our buck. Thank you though. |
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Hennepin, IL | I'd agree with all that. Saw the same drive shaft issues on our 7090. I doubt you'd have any issues with that on a 7070 tho. As far as damp hay I'd say that's pretty accurate. Having run both a 7090 and 560 I'd like to hear your comparison at some point. |
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Saronville NE | I demoed a 560. It would eat like no other. But since changed the stuffer system it didn't make as nice square sided bales and we had net wrap issues also. Idk I wasn't impressed to be honest. I liked the 7090 better. |
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Redickville, Ont | I was thinking of your tearing up pto are you using 540. I bet you switch to 1000 that would solve your problem. Think you just spin the gear box and good to go. |
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Saronville NE | I was on 1000. But I bale with a 8110 and double windrow rake everything together and push. Run 7-8 mph all the time.
Our dealer says common problem and kept shafts in stock several to be truthful it was so common. |
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Hennepin, IL | Really? Ours had never heard of it before and by the second time in less than 3000 bales total we knew something wasn't kosher. This was on a 1000 rpm shaft too. Our was a bale slice model which we used a lot. I never saw a difference in how square the bales were, and I actually think this 560 packs them tighter with the same pressure setting. We've had some net wrap issues but I think we've got it pretty well tuned now. Still not as flawless as the net setup on the 7090 though.
Edited by AVP_Matt 4/13/2018 12:03
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Sioux County, NWIA | No, the 540 lasts way longer on those balers than the 1000. I have both. Got 20k bales out of the 540 and less than 7.5k out of the 1000s. The 540 is a heavier series. The speed of the 1000 simply wears out the cv joint, no matter how much it’s greased.
Talk to discbinedr, he can get you the 540 series pto with the 1000 spline I think.
Edited by Gearclash 4/13/2018 16:14
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