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| Think about buying a used 40x60 pole shed. It has 12 ft walls and would like to raise to 16 ft. The shed has nails for the tin so it’s on the older side. What kind of options could I do or is this all around a bad idea. |
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Swaledale, IA | The nails will be a pain to take out as they are probably ring shank so easier to cut or grind to save the tin. As far as making it taller you will have to use longer poles but the rest is salvageable. |
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West Chazy, New York | For the amount of extra work to upgrade an old building you will be time and money ahead to build new. |
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| Start from scratch, and build it the way you want.. |
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southern MN | So you are buying the roof. The sidewall tin will be too short, and the poles are too short.
Price out new trusses and some roof tin and see where the price is on new.
Working out a taller sidewall takes a foundation or longer poles. And bigger poles for that much extra height.
And some overlapping tin or some split siding stuff, matching old to new.
Any of which take more fuss, which means more money.
Side tin work well to reuse, but reusing the roof tin you just end up with bigger nail holes, always chasing a few leaks. The nature of reusing tin on a roof. The tin is used, faded some, less life.
Run the numbers carefully.
If you used the building as is, it can be a good use of unused time. By adding 4 foot of height, I would look at the numbers real careful, you aren't really getting much value from the little bit of used stuff you will easily reuse.
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mn | Are you dismantling it or moving it?
I have about $7500 into purchasing and moving a 60x40x14. 2 year old steel and 2 roll up doors that have been opened twice. Couldn't even come close to buying just materials for that.
If you are moving it there is 2 options. You can put longer poles in and bolt them to the existing poles. Or cut the existing poles off flush with the bottom of the building and nail 2 planks to the bottom all the way around. Then put poles in the ground at the height you want and nail planks to the top. Then set the building on there.
If you are taking it down, cut the nail heads off. They make a tool for it. Then screw the steel back on using the screws with oversized washers. The sidewall steel can be reused by filling the gap with a different color to create a wainscot.
Edited by jtpfarm 4/12/2018 10:42
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C IL | Fella here had contractor cut off posts, raise pole barn with bin jacks, drive long trailer under it and across field, set it down on new concrete foundation. |
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| A neighbor of mine moved in a shed, similar size. He poured a foundation and put 5 or 6 layers of block and set the building on top of it. Bought new doors and had the building repainted. Looks pretty good actually.
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SW Ohio | We have done exactly that, not a big deal for us. One barn we raised in place, poles were rotted off and we just cut them off, lifted and added in new spliced on, tin was added from the scrap pile so it does not look perfect but it works for us. The other was a take down and move, we made our own perma piers and raised it 4' setting old poles on top of piers and adding skylite to make the sidewalls fit. Haven't done the doors yet but plan to just hang 4' of rubber belting on the bottom of doors
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Clark Co. Wis | Neighbor has raised 2 bldg.......either 4 or 6 ft. Biggest was 40 by 160. Raised 40 ft. at a time. Added on too poles and side metal......Bldg looks like new. AND was raised and finished by the Amish. |
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west central Iowa | jtpfarm - 4/12/2018 10:40
Are you dismantling it or moving it?
I have about $7500 into purchasing and moving a 60x40x14. 2 year old steel and 2 roll up doors that have been opened twice. Couldn't even come close to buying just materials for that.
If you are moving it there is 2 options. You can put longer poles in and bolt them to the existing poles. Or cut the existing poles off flush with the bottom of the building and nail 2 planks to the bottom all the way around. Then put poles in the ground at the height you want and nail planks to the top. Then set the building on there.
If you are taking it down, cut the nail heads off. They make a tool for it. Then screw the steel back on using the screws with oversized washers. The sidewall steel can be reused by filling the gap with a different color to create a wainscot.
Have you got a link or source for the tool to cut off nails? |
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Thumb of Michigan | One other thing to consider: taxes
I was thinking of raising a older shed, got the price for doing so and could build a new one a little bigger even for less money. So that's what I did, tore down the old one and put up a new one. This year's tax assessment came later, jumped value more than I paid for shed!!! Naturally, I argued their assumptions, plus didn't old shed have a value? Got a reduction, but still higher taxes going forward.
Take a longer look, would be my suggestion. |
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| I've seen several cases where the pole barn was lifted out of the ground and new short poles or square poles were bolted to the side of the existing poles. Then just add tin to the new part. Seems to work and look OK if done right. |
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Southern Iowa | Sheep Herder - 4/12/2018 14:34 I've seen several cases where the pole barn was lifted out of the ground and new short poles or square poles were bolted to the side of the existing poles. Then just add tin to the new part. Seems to work and look OK if done right.
That's what I was thinking.... lift it up, splice in poles, and add tin to bottom. Make it look like the wainscoting you see on new buildings with a second color.
Otherwise, if it's a good building, I'd consider moving it. House mover can do it easily. drill holes and pour full of concrete to set it on or use perma-columns. |
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NCent. IN | Option 1: Raise building install 4' concrete wall, bolt poles to wall with steel L brackets. Option 2: Install perma-columns attach existing poles, and add wainscoting. |
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just a tish NE of central ND | Sasksodbuster - 4/12/2018 09:05
Start from scratch, and build it the way you want..
Yea, I looked at a nice used pole barn years ago, taken apart and stacked and all numbered in order of removal for easier fitting at reasemble. The nails all had the heads neatily removed with mimimal damage to the sheetmetal. After seeing how many cracks were in the nailers and perlings and rafters from nailing,I drove away and decided it was a pile of sheetmetal at best and probably best suited for a cattle windbreak.
Better off building new than rebuilding used. Moveing is also hard on the building but it has been done many times and so has lifting and spliceing. I think its just best to start new.
Edited by School Of Hard Knock 4/12/2018 19:59
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| Rideharley - 4/12/2018 09:40 Think about buying a used 40x60 pole shed. It has 12 ft walls and would like to raise to 16 ft. The shed has nails for the tin so it’s on the older side. What kind of options could I do or is this all around a bad idea.
Yes, it is a bad idea unless you really need a project to kill a lot of time on.
Even if you need a project, go get a price on a kit for a new building of the size that you need.
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Fletcher, OH | Add concrete retaining wall along side walls |
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Extreme SW Minnesota Iowa border | https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=416979&posts=1...
Did this a few years back. Would do it again. Looks like a newer building with wainscoting on now. |
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Nw Iowa | There is nothing wrong with moving a building. If you are not moving that far you can probably do it yourself. We moved a 40x60 building that was going to be destroyed where it sat. Put it on 2 walls made out of posts with a 2x10 on top. Backed a semi trailer under it and put beams across. When we got to the new site had a slight berm built up so we could drive shed on the pad and clear new wall. Anyway some work but not overwhelming, felt it was worth the time. Buying new materials doesn't mean the building is up. |
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NW Iowa | If you got the building for free and can move it yourself, it might work for you. I raised a former gestation building when I got out of hogs. 36'x63' Went from a 7' sidewall to a 20'. Just went straight up. Did all the carpentry work myself, but hired someone to get it in the air. Wanted to make a shop out of it and the ceiling was lined and insulated for the hogs. When I got done, if it wasn't for the liner and insulation, I was at even money with buying the materials for a new building. I did put all new exterior steel on it when I raised it. On the building you are considering, do look closely at the bottom two nailers on the roof. I have two machine sheds that came with purchased land that were built in the late 70's. Besides the poles being pretty much rotten at ground level, the bottom two rows of roof nailers are in bad shape from condensation running down the underside of the roof steel over the years. |
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