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18c ditch system | Who made the best one? Who made the worst one? |
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WC Iowa | We had a JD 237, but it seemed like the IH 234 was a better picker. JD stayed with the snapping rolls and IH had stripper plate, combine head type rolls that shelled less. |
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| Agree, the IH 234 was better. |
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S.E. South Dakota | After reading this I asked the old guys at coffee. IH was better the Deere. But lots of guys bought Deere because it was lighter then IH. AC was the best for down corn and Ford picked the cleanest. That's what eighty plus farmers said. |
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NEMO | There were a lot on New Idea pickers around here.
All I remember is there were a LOT of places to grease on that thing and a 560 with a mounted picker would not handle much mud. |
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Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells | Dad had me operating equipment very young, when I was 13 was picking corn with mounted 33 on WC Allis Chalmers, not only did it leave a yellow trail across the field didn’t husk worth a sh!t either, that was the worst mounted that I run.
Then Dad bought mounted 425 on 630 Case that had seen better days.
Then Dad and I bought JD 227 with elavater and sheller mounted it on 730 Case, ran that for 2 years.
Than bought New Idea 319 with 12 row husking bed and sheller mounted on 730 Case, that was the best mounted picker I ran. Run that outfit until we bought combine in 1980.
Neighbors ran 234 mounted on 706, that didn’t shell as much as 319 but didn’t take husk off as good as 319.
In my eyes the perfect mounted picker would be IH 234 pulling ears of the stalks and New Idea 12 row husking bed strap on the back.
Dan
Edited by DB Tracks 4/7/2018 10:56
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East central Wisconsin | Id vote 234, less shelling , less plugging. didnt husk as good as it should have though. was great for picking sweet corn with huskers taken out. The good old days! |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | I don't know who made the best, but my uncles were AC dealers, and they tried not to sell AC mounted pickers. They weren't very proud of them!
When they picked corn, they preferred New Idea,which they also sold. |
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Central Iowa | I picked a lot of corn with this Massey 44 and a New Idea 301 picker. It did a good job of husking ond only shelled real bad when it was really damp. Still have the tractor, sold the picker when I went to 30" rows in 1972. And yes, most everyone back then had a stalk chopper.
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IL | We ran a new idea up into the 80’s, husking bed and sheller. I guess I didn’t know any different being 12 yrs old or so. It was wore out pretty good, and still did a decent job |
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SC Iowa | I have an IH 234 but have not used it for several years. With the stripper plates it does not get as many shucks off at the rolls as the old style pickers but saves a lot of corn. I have a sheller unit for it and used it a couple times for fun, in 100 bu corn I could go 7 mph with the old 450 diesel and still not plug it. |
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NW Washington | The IH 2M later models were the most common in our area. We had a IH 24 for a while which was more of a snapper but it got traded for a 2M. Putting the 2M on an M Farmall was a big job.
The Allis Chalmers was not very good, and did a terrible job of cleaning shucks off of the corn. I do think it used a little short snapping rolls and sheller/stripper plates unlike the regular snapping rolls used my others.
Also note that there were pickers with husking beds and others called snappers that did not have a husking bed. |
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southern MN | Mostly ihc mounted pickers around here, the purests had a few green ones but saw as many New Idea as anything else after ihc. Pull type were 90% New Idea.
Those were the days, I was the pin hooker for a 2me on an F20 with no starter, two barge boxes and a wood flair box, hoist mounted on my uncle's little ihc linder tractor.
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KY | 80 years plus or you have 80+ folks at coffee in the mornings???? |
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| IH or NI........everything else wanted to be them! |
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cedar rapids, ia. | Dad Had a 1963 Allis 190 mounted picker, had the same rolls and stripper bars the combine had, trouble was the front would handle corn at 5mph, and the husking bed about half that, later got a New Idea pull type, and it would plain pick corn, the 190 then picked endrows and broke lands, |
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WI | This is what I grew up with. Sold it to a deer farm a couple of years ago.
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west central Iowa | My Dad said you could set your watch by hearing the neighbors slip clutches on his AC picker, they went out the same time every morning and a lot of mornings it was still too tough in the grassy areas. I picked a lot of corn with a 234 IH and it worked good, but I thought I died and went to heaven when I got a JD 300 pull type and got to ride in the cab in front of all the dirt and noise. A friend of mine had a 234 on an 806 with an ice cream box cab, wasn't so dirty, but still noisy. |
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NE OHIO | Lot of New Idea pickers here in NE Ohio. Personally we had an Oliver 88 with an Oliver mounted picker had the husking roll rear and a interchangeable rear mounted sheller unit. Think picker was an Oliver 74 or some other number it was one of the later ones took some fabrication to get in on the old Oliver 88. |
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Ontario | Dad picked alot of corn with a 1 row Ford. First on a 150 Massey then on a 165. Still remember riding in the wagon. |
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Liberty, MO | I don’t remember it, BUT dad commented a lot on his first mounted picker a “GI,” used it 1 year and traded it for a deep freeze, next picker was an Oliver #4, 2 row mtd on the Oliver 88. Sold it after 10-12 years. Bought another #4 when Pioneer started growing seed in our area, put that picker on MY 770 Oliver, that deal only lasted 8-10 yrs.
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Decaturville TN | My dad ran a JD 227 and a 237 mounted on aJD 2510 and a 71 model 3020. He did custom picking all around our area plus his own corn. I still have the 3020. After school and on Saturdays my job starting at 10 years old was to pull wagons to the barn with a 1960 Allis D-15 with power steering. I still remember driving that D-15 as a 12 yr old to another farm 6 miles away one Saturday morning when it was 19 degrees. Man was I cold. That would be considered dangerous child abuse now. Also raked a lot of hay with that D-15 as he did custom baling too and my pay was one penny per bale.
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| on a side how long did it take to put a mounted picker on?, were some brands models easier? |
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| A IH 2ME picker (earlier model) took all day to put on a 450 tractor. Everything was just plain heavy and awkward to handle . The IH 234 took about a half day start to finish. No heavy lifting and a relative breeze to put on....
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| My uncle had a #24. As I recsll they didn't have a husking bed so left a lot of shucks on the corn. Hed picked a lot of popcorn with it, popcorn company like it because it didn't damage the kernals like a lot of other ear pickers.mWe used it until the early '60s when we shared a 2MH, their picker our tractorwith neighbors for a couple years before going to a combine w/ cornhead |
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| Took better part of a day as I recall, IH #24 & a 2MH. First combine, JD 55EB, it took 2 guys a 1/2 day to switch from grain platform to corn head. |
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| We could put a NI on here in a few hours if we had a loader to put the sub frame on. Longest part of the job was moving wheels. |
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| New Idea had the best picker IMO. They had a huge husking bed that would pick the corn clean. They were the last to make a corn picker. 1985 was the last year. We had an IH 234 that was very good. Run it in irrigated corn an handled it well. IH made the 2MH picker that was hugely popular for the time. Also had shelling units you could put on the picker. They were similar to a rotor combine only in a smaller form. |
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S.E. South Dakota | ihmanky - 4/7/2018 12:50
80 years plus or you have 80+ folks at coffee in the mornings???? Asked the 80 plus guys. |
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SW Minnesota | I think there was a similar discussion on the Cornpicker Forum several years ago. Seems to me the consensus on the best mounted picking outfit was an IH 234 Picker mounted on an IH Hydro Tractor.
Although I have never owned one, I think the 234 had a pretty slick mounting system, especially once the mounting frame was installed on the tractor. Could switch from husking bed to sheller (or grinder) in a couple of minutes - no tools. Saw it demonstrated at the Half Century of Progress Show a few years back. Pretty impressive - too bad it came out pretty late in the mounted picker game...
The New Idea mounted pickers weren't too bad, either. I have a 319 for a "toy" that I mounted up every year for a few years around 2007 to 2011. I rigged up a cart so that I could store the gathering unit in the corner of a low shed and when it was time to mount it, bring it out into the middle of another shed with a concrete floor. Made it a LOT easier to mount on the tractor. Having a skid loader with forks on it doesn't hurt with mounting the sub frame, either!
Then we went to 30" rows and couldn't use it anymore so I found a New Idea 3-row pull type. I still pick around 10-12 acres every other year just so I can play with my picker and corn sheller "toys".
The Oliver 74 mounted picker was very similar to the New Idea as well.
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E.Central MN | We had a NI 319 on an IH 400. We had bigger tires on it with good tread so it had really good traction, better than the tractors we pulled the wagons with. When it got muddy it would ball up the tricycle front so the tires wouldn't turn. We swapped out the tricycle front for a single wheel front from an F12 and that worked a lot better. Still had trouble steering, but the tire kept turning, we'd steer it with the brakes. Finally waited to pick until after dark when the ground froze a little. Some nights we'd be pushing cornstalks and mud with the front wheel, then all of a sudden the governor would open up and the front tire went up and over that pile of mud. When we got done the field looked like it was infested with muskrat houses. |
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South West Michigan | TP from Central PA - 4/7/2018 18:24 We could put a NI on here in a few hours if we had a loader to put the sub frame on. Longest part of the job was moving wheels.
X 2. Dad would "make over" the D-17 every fall. It was our main tractor for everything,disking,plowing,cultivating. Worst part was changing the wide-front to narrow pedastal. The picker was a N/I but I don't recall the # |
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| The secret to the IH 234 was the knives on the rollers. Took most off the trash away from the husking bed. Made for a high capacity picker. Picked 160 BPA irrigated corn pretty easily. The nold rollers on the 2MH were alright but would shell the shell the corn bad at times. The knives eliminated alot off that. |
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S.E. South Dakota | Didn't Vermeer make a 4 and 6 row mounted picker. I remember seeing a big picker on a 1066 at the Clay County fair. |
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| https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=2119
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 |
Thanks for posting -I've never seen that before! I wonder if they ever sold any of the soybean headers? |
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NW IA | Picked a lot of acres with 234 picker on an 826 hydro tractor. Really nice rig and would pick corn fast but it ran on a 1000rpm pto and those howling chains back there on the drive cost me my hearing. |
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