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| Looking to purchase a 4040 or another 4230 to go along with our 4230 and 4020 we have now. Wanting to go to something with a cab but keep the 404 engine. We have a turbo on the the 4020 now and wouldn't mind the new tractor having a turbo as well. Does anyone have any comments on adding a turbo to a 4230 or 4040? The turbo was already on the 4020 when it was purchased.
Also has anyone plowed with these tractors? I'm wanting to turn some hay acres under and also some corn stalks to turn into row crop acres and hay acres. I think I would prefer to use a moldboard plow for this purpose because they seem to be more readily available than a chisel plow of the right size also more than likely cheaper. I would think the 100-120 horse tractor would have it's plate full 4 16's or 10' chisel plow? I do have a set of band dualls from the 4230 we currently have that are 18.4-34's I could put on to help some but they are about bald and I'm sure band dualls don't help as much hubs.
Open to opinions and idea's on what's best here. The other duty's this tractor will have is planting, disking, 12' field cultivator, and hay equipment (will be nice not to eat dust on the balers). Of course if anyone has pictures of a nice 4040/4230 plowing or just in general feel free to show them off. Thanks in advance for any advice. |
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| 4040 here with M&W turbo was at 120+ on dyno. I pulled a JD 350 hyd reset plow 4-16" It was a pretty good load but we have heavy black soil and heavy red clay. Plows harder than many other areas. I remember plowing the ends on heavy black waxy ground after running over them and turning over 3ft long slabs and barely being able to pull it. Also pulled a 10 shank White 458 3 point mounted chisel plow which was a pretty good load also. Pulled a 13.5' Oliver 285 field cultivator as deep as it would go with a packer behind it. Pulled a 14' JD AW disk, cultipacker and flexible tine harrow as well. That was back when it was big horse. Now mostly 6 row 7200 planter and sometimes 15' 750 no till drill and side dress rig. 16.9x38 tires and 8 speed PS. Don't think I have any of those early tillage pics scanned into this computer. Edit: Scanned a couple I could find quick Plowing is October 31 1981 Working ground with disk and spike tooth a couple years later. Plowing down snow.
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Lincoln County. NC | The Northeastern soils I grew up on plow easier than some. A stock 4020 or 4230 would easily handle 4-18’s and a lot of guys pulled 5 16’s or 18’s. I plowed for years with a late 3020 and an IH 720 4-18’s. |
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Western NY | A 4020 will pull a 5-16 or 4-18 plow here (NY). |
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Coles County, Illinois | Dad had 3 different 4230's. First one was the strongest as it has a turbo system off a 4320 we pulled a 4-18 with it and had it weighted down to 17,000#. We had another with an M&W turbo system on it. The M&W made the tractor a lot better on fuel consumption but if you really tired to use the extra HP, the Pryro got to 1300 degrees quick. I don't think the exhaust manifold was heavy enough to dissipate the heat.
The third never got a turbo on it and we never used it for tillage.
The real issue with 4230/4040 is the radiators aren't big enough to cool these tractors unless it really cold outside and you have to keep them in tip-top shape. If you want a strong 4230 turbo, buy a 4440. |
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East Central Illinois | My grandfather has a 4230 that is possibly for sale if you're interested, let me know |
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Saline County, Mo | Unless the 4040 has been turned up it will not run with a good stock 4020. But I would still get the 4040 over the 4230 and turn it up or turbo it. My uncles 4040 just got its first overhaul at 15k hours. Still ran fine just had lots of blo by |
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Mo | Tractor pulling as a kid with our 4230. I think in the ten thousand pound class. Plenty of power but would spin out too easily. Plowed terraces in Missouri with 5 16’s and was ok but was slow. Get in some clay on a slope and was barely turning it over. Did a lot of that in cold weather with a comfort-cab because the tractor was cab-less. Always liked how peppy the motor was except when plowing it had all it could handle. Young guys now days don’t have that kind of patience! |
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Pierce county WI | Great pictures Von! So are you still pulling the drill with your 8300? I like that tractor. To the OP, rather than try to turn up a 4040 or 4230, buy a 4430. I'd say go 4440, but if you want to stick to a 404, then you need the 30. More pump, radiator, fuel tank............ |
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| Yep finally getting the hang of hydraulic switches vs levers. 
Plus now I've really got my down pressure gauge just where I want it. 
Set up with a quick coupler disconnect. 
And no strain lifting of drill fill auger going forward ought to make it really nice. 
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Pilot Grove, Missouri | If it were me and wanting to stay with a 404 and have a turbo, I would look for a good 4430. Patrick |
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OR | Well first thing why stay with the 404 the 466 was so much better get a 4440 or better yet get a 4640 that tractor will burn some shears off for ya. |
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Lawton MI | As a few others have said, get a 4430. You will then have a turbocharged 404 engine with cooling and drive line strength to match the engine. It will also probably cost less than a 4230 or 4040. |
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Eastern North Carolina | dmax2001 - 4/5/2018 07:15
As a few others have said, get a 4430. You will then have a turbocharged 404 engine with cooling and drive line strength to match the engine. It will also probably cost less than a 4230 or 4040. .
Plus a 540 and 1000 pto as a 4630 won't have the 540.....
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Pierce county WI | Looks very good. For being a big tractor, they don't feel like it. The visibility and handling are great. I had to laugh last week. I went to my Deere dealer. They had some 8rs and 7rs, and a couple of other tractors like a 7820. They also had a 4850 Mfwd sitting there. I used to think that was a huge tractor. Seeing it sit next to everything else, even the 7820, it looked small. Now I know how my buddy's dad felt when he said he thought a 720 was a big tractor..... |
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Fruita CO | But I really don't know how many 4230, 4240, 4040, early 4050 w/the 466 I have installed turbos on, also a few 4030's...I'll estimate 20-25. At his altitude, these tractors put out a lot of smoke & not a lot of power, especially the 466. That head, in my opinion was designed for a turbo & just can't get its breath, especially at altitude. Most owners that bought 4230's new were disappointed in the fact that it wouldn't pull any more than a 4020...doing them with 4430 parts was actually no more expensive than an M&W kit, & a lot neater. 4240's were even worse, a smoky, doggy fuel hog...a turbo on them gave them about 130-140 HP without turning up the pump, & no more smoke. Some 4240's had to be turned up a little to make them run cool, they were so lean. Used to do them with all new parts from JD, until it got too pricey, then went to salvage yard parts for manifolds, etc. All these tractors have done a hell of a lot of work, one of the first ones I did has outlived its owner, & his son is still running it, has to have about 20K hr. now. None of these tractors have had drive train problems, like 4430's did...
PS: Between the altitude & the tough ground, there were no 4-bottom plows in this valley until the 4320 & 4430 came along...
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| Von very neat pictures especially the one of plowing in 1981. There must be some story behind that one.
Does your turbo exhaust come through the original hole in the hood?
Also have you had any issues out of this setup on that tractor? |
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| Yes the turbo kit uses the factory muffler hole so the hood was not butchered up. 
The others are correct radiator must be kept clean and in A-1 shape. I replaced the original a couple years ago as when pulling the drill with constant hydraulic down pressure on hot days it was creeping up to the top of the green zone more than I wanted to see. Keep in mind this was also with the extra oil cooling capacity of the additional 11 quarts of oil in the Baldwin bypass system. 
The plowing picture was a staged family picture of the family elders. We lost both of them within 7 years of this picture. It was taken to get everyone plowing together for a photo at one time (knowing it might be the last) then blown up for a Christmas gift. 4040,4030,2030,2010 It still hangs on my office wall to this day as a tribute and reminder to the past generations knowledge,lessons, and guidance.
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Lincoln County. NC | Interesting. It pays to remember that farming is vastly different in places further away than what each of us can see. Your comments on the 4240 are spot on. My dad bought one that I bought from him. In the scope of our operation it was too big for the small jobs and barely able to handle the larger ones. And I swear it burned 6 gph sitting in the shed. |
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ND | The ground we have here is pretty tough at times gumbo & have a IH 720 5-18 plow & a 4430 cannot pull it because a 4640 is minimum. Luckily we don't plow anymore but still have both outfits. Your ground must be pretty nice to be pulling 4-18"'s with a 4230 or 4040 with a turbo, as an even match here in the past was a 4430 with a 5-14 plow. As said before you'd be far better off with a 4430 for all the extra things you get on the tractor especially the different diesel pump. |
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| I wonder models were the last two tractors in the picture were.
Three bottom plows behind the 2030 and 2010 tractors? |
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| Yes 3 point mounted three 16's on 2030 and three 14's on 2010 |
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