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Georgia | Hey everyone . I'm needing some advice on planting soybeans with a grain drill . I usually use a row planter on 36 inch but I have A field i am planning to plant soon that usually has heavy deer pressure so I wanted to plug every 3rd tube on my John Deere 8300 drill to make it 22.5 row spacing so I can bump the population up . I would try 15 inch but my tractor will not make it thru that narrow rows . Any tips would be greatly appreciated . Thank you |
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Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana | I can't help with the drill, but I run over beans spraying and you can't tell it at harvest. |
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Mid-Michigan | What do you mean your "tractor won't make it thru that narrow rows" Are you cultivating? |
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| Why not just drill it narrow? I don't understand the correlation of deer pressure and row spacing. |
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Illinois | Drink heavily before, during and after. Don't go looking at the beans unless you also have to. Be ready for poor depth control and terrible spacing.
But on a serious note keep the same population and maybe do every other hole. The beans will stand back up. Narrow rows shine with low pops
Edited by AGDEAL 4/4/2018 19:20
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Georgia | Thanks , I'm in middle ga so I've never seen 15 inch row beans most people around here plant 30 or 36 inch so I wasn't sure how they do if you run them over . |
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Georgia | I'm spraying with a 2640 with 14 inch wide tires . I'm atleast going to spray twice so I didn't think they would do good if you ran them over once the beans got taller . I've never planted beans on lower than 36 inch rows so I wasn't sure , That's why I'm asking |
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Georgia | I want more plants per acre to compensate for the deer pressure . I cant really bump my population up any more than I'm currently setup for at 36 inch because it would be to thick in the row . I would do 15 inch but I'm atleast spraying twice and I've never had any experience running over soybeans while spraying so I didn't know how they would do . |
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Georgia | Haha good advice . I'm learning toward 15 inch now after reading these comments . |
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| Is your 8300 7.5" or 10" standard? I always did 7.5" and we (and everybody else) just run them over when spraying. Some pop back if not too mature and the tracks will canopy. You don't have anything to worry about. |
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SWIL | Nothing wrong with 7.5 inch beans either. Only reason we plant 15s is better depth control and population control is dead on. |
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Faunsdale, AL | Have planted a lot of beans on 7.5" with 8300 and similar drills as well as 750-1560 no-till models. I would suggest going to 15"s just because there are twice as many per foot of row so less inclined to have emergence problems if you have minor crusting.
I plant about half of mine on 15" with just the rear rank of the 1560 drill and usually post with a 3 point sprayer on a 4440 with 18.4 tires. At harvest you can see the tracks but I expect if you spray when you should, the beans next to the tracks will branch and compensate by setting more pods.
Unless you have row markers or GPS it is probably going to be hard to maintain row spacing well enough for you to run them anyway. What boom width and drill width do you have?
I think the snap in seed cup covers for JD drills fit all models. I found out the hard way that duct tape will sometimes break loose when used for covering seed cups. I cut small rectangles of tin and taped them over the cups for several years before I bought a set of the plastic ones from Shoup. |
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Western Iowa | I drilled beans for years on 7.5" and planted on 15" for several years after that.
Only issue would be if your soils are prone to crusting. When they are drilled on narrow spacing, the 'neighboring' bean isn't too close, and can't help it push thru a crust near as good as on 30" or wider rows.
If crusting isn't an issue, I would for sure not plug any rows on your drill. You will get a nice canopy. Spraying isn't an issue. I used to spray with a 4440 tractor and duals, and even spraying in mid July you could only see where I drove for a week, maybe 2 at the most. Just don't spray when the ground is muddy, as the plants you run over will be stuck down, then your tracks are permanent. |
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Ludington/Manistee MI area | Why not take your 36 inch planter and plant it twice at different angles. Sorta make an X. |
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Mid-Michigan | Jdtank122 - 4/4/2018 19:22
I'm spraying with a 2640 with 14 inch wide tires . I'm atleast going to spray twice so I didn't think they would do good if you ran them over once the beans got taller . I've never planted beans on lower than 36 inch rows so I wasn't sure , That's why I'm asking
Just run over them and use the same tracks. You will still be narrower than your 36 inch rows. |
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Illinois | Last year I sprayed one farm crossways and that worked slick in narrow rows |
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| Plant them on 7.5" rows. Yields may be the same as 15" but I think you will see better weed control with 7.5" rows as they canopy faster. |
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East ks | Like the others said just drill don't plug anything, don't overthink it, don't worry about driving on them. I've drilled with 7.5" on lots and lots of acres. Currently notill 10". You will be surprised how well it will work. |
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S IL | I'll bet a dollar the drilled beans outyield the 15"
Edited by FlyinIL22 4/4/2018 22:11
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central - east central Minnesota - | Jdtank122 - 4/4/2018 18:49 Hey everyone . I'm needing some advice on planting soybeans with a grain drill . I usually use a row planter on 36 inch but I have A field i am planning to plant soon that usually has heavy deer pressure so I wanted to plug every 3rd tube on my John Deere 8300 drill to make it 22.5 row spacing so I can bump the population up . I would try 15 inch but my tractor will not make it thru that narrow rows . Any tips would be greatly appreciated . Thank you Drills have "Clump and Dump" metering system. Takes time and patience to get it set and then it'll still be off population wise. Generally, you'll end up planting heavy. I would also plant in 7.5 row width. I don't like 15 in as if you do run over that row or parts of that row 2 or 3 times (herbicide and insecticide applications), it'll likely die and then you have a 30 inch row spacing (more possible weed pressure then). Seems when in 7.5 in rows, you can run the same track and a few days later it's all filled in. Yes, those bean you run over maybe dead, but the closer beans around it seem to grow into the open space (looking for more sun light?) and cover you tracks.
On a side note, not sure you'll see any additional yield with your thinking . . . the deer are still going to eat the same amount of beans. Your final yield may not be any different in 36 in rows or narrow rows. Soil type makes a difference, but overall you may not experience any different yield results. |
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| Just plant at 7.5 spacing then spray across the rows and not with the rows, you will squish less beans if that is your concern. |
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NC Indiana | A drill is a controlled spill at best. If it's a small field, I'd checker plant them with the corn planter before going back to drilled beans. |
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Central MN | I hated drilling beans. You waste seed as some gets planted about 0.5" deep and some at 3.5". That is why we built our own 20" planter for corn and soybeans.
Roll your fields first will help with consistent seed depth placement. |
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Coles County, Illinois | Just adjust your rate and double plant. The only issue I've had was planting into where my marker went. I make 3 passes and then pin up one marker and split the middles of my first pass. I then make a new pass with the marker down. |
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Pilot Grove, Missouri | If you drill them on 15's and spray them before they canopy, you will be suprised how much the beans you run over recover. If you can drive decent with 14" wide tires I bet you would have less damage than going across the rows. Patrick |
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Concordia, KS | I bet they won't, at least "here." |
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middle Georgia | Jdtank122, I am in middle Ga I have planted on 36,and 30 inch rows with a row planter. Went to planting beans with a Sunflower no-till drill tried 7.5 and 15 inch rows to get faster canopy closing and spreading the plants out in the row. I have always planted between 120,000 to 160,000 seed to the acer, regardless of my row pattern. My tractors have 18.4-38 tires, if the beans are small and healthy they will be fine being run over once. If I have to spray several times I run in the same tracks every time. A light bar is a great investment for spraying drilled beans. On my farm my biggest problem is farming some marginal ground and most of all is the lack of water at the right time. In my opinion the drilled beans do better when it is dry and feed better into the combine. I like to cut them at a angle. |
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West Union, Illinois | Jdtank122 - ... plug every 3rd tube on my John Deere 8300 drill to make it 22.5 row spacing... You're overthinking things. Just plant narrow row beans. |
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Leesburg, Ohio | Population is probably not going to compensate for deer damage. They will clean out everything in the spots they graze, no matter the row spacing or the population. If you increase population too much to try to compensate in the grazed areas, you will be over-populated in the rest of the field. |
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Georgia | That's a good idea I've heard of it before |
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Georgia | I think I'm overthinking it too . What population do you plant |
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Georgia | Thanks for replying . I see what your talking about with 7.5 vs 15 inch . I was thinking higher population because it usually takes 3 weeks or so to get the deer to stay out of the beans . I get a deer permit so maybe if I planted a few more seeds per acre I could get the final population I'm looking for by the time I get the deer where they don't feel safe in the field . |
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Georgia | I think checker planting would work good |
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Georgia | I was worried about depth too . Unfortunately I don't have a roller |
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Georgia | Thanks for replying. I'm in middle ga too . What town you close too ? I actually have a light bar . There seems to be a lot of marginal ground in Georgia . Hard to grow beans on sandy land . Deer are usually my yield limiting factor . |
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Georgia | I get a deer permit after they are planted and it usually takes 3 or so weeks to get the deer were they don't feel safe to walk out . The field has woods on all 4 sides so the pressure will be equal . I was thinking I would plant maybe 200,000 seed in hope that by the time I can get the deer under control that I will end up with a harvestable stand near 140,000 . I really don't want to plant the field into beans but I need to rotate |
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ND | Jdtank122 - 4/6/2018 20:42 Thanks for replying. I'm in middle ga too . What town you close too ? I actually have a light bar . There seems to be a lot of marginal ground in Georgia . Hard to grow beans on sandy land . Deer are usually my yield limiting factor . That seems difficult, your field just becomes a food plot. What other crops can you grow profitably on that field ? |
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middle Georgia | I live between Perry and Marshallville |
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Georgia | Gotcha I'm between wrens and Stapleton |
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Georgia | Luckily I don't have any crusting issues ! Thanks for the advice |
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Georgia | Mine is 7.5 |
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Georgia | Yea it's pretty tough . I have had grain sorghum on it for 3 years straight . It's been making good yeild just no market for it around here . I want to rotate to a broadleaf crop is my only reason for planting beans . The guy that rented it before me grew cotton and peanuts on it but as a young beginner farmer I cannot afford to buy a cotton or peanut picker that will sit in the shed 11 months out of the year . I get a deer permit after I plant my beans so usually after 3 or so weeks of riding fields the deer usually tend to not walk out as much . I thought about growing a crop of hay on it |
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Need advice for planting soybeans with grain drill
