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companyman
Posted 3/21/2018 06:27 (#6655397)
Subject: Older steigers and tile plows


NE Wisconsin

I've seen pics of tile plows pulled by older stieger 4wd's.  How does one get enough hydraulic pressure to maintain grade during tough pulls?  I've been recommended to have at least 2900 psi and I know most older tractors can't produce that.  Do guys use self contained hydraulic units in these cases, or is a kit from atom jet necessary?

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Jon
Posted 3/21/2018 06:37 (#6655410 - in reply to #6655397)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows



Callao Missouri
2900 psi is nothing more than a relief valve adjustment, Flow may be a little slow.
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ccjersey
Posted 3/21/2018 06:39 (#6655413 - in reply to #6655397)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows


Faunsdale, AL
I expect it would be cheaper to put on bigger cylinders if you thought you needed it. We ran an old SoilMax plow on an 81 PTA 280 and got along fine. Just had to get the valving setup for an open center system.
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allis7040
Posted 3/21/2018 06:53 (#6655440 - in reply to #6655413)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows


Tama iowa
Have a three point pro on a st220. Never seen any problems on screen or tile installed. Put in about a 120000 ft over 5ish years. Always in the green on % of grade. Only done 4 inch though. Havent tried the 6 inch boot.

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johnk
Posted 3/21/2018 07:16 (#6655499 - in reply to #6655397)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows


ncia
the ones with the automatics worked great for SLOWLY starting out from the "set in".
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allis7040
Posted 3/21/2018 07:27 (#6655516 - in reply to #6655499)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows


Tama iowa
It would be nice to go slower. I put in tile mostly 1.2 mph but probably alot of slip.
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Catoperator
Posted 3/21/2018 08:39 (#6655688 - in reply to #6655397)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows


N W Ohio
This works pretty good.



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Jay NE Ohio
Posted 3/21/2018 11:44 (#6655996 - in reply to #6655397)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows



northeastern Ohio
There is a Steiger with a mounted tile plow for sale in my area. It looks like it has put a lot of tile in: https://youngstown.craigslist.org/hvo/d/drainage-plow-for-sale/65048...



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ag4life
Posted 3/21/2018 12:52 (#6656096 - in reply to #6655996)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows



Southern Illinois
There used to be an old 70's model Steiger around here with a mounted plow, big singles, and had another gear reduction of some kind put in. Would run 7 or 8 full speed. Put in a lot of tile in its day.
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DB Tracks
Posted 3/21/2018 13:26 (#6656151 - in reply to #6655397)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows


Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells
Ours has a hydraulic pump strapped to the Allison transmission to run the tile plow, its live power with a lot of psi and a lot of flow.

It had done over 3 million ft before we bought it, we have done over a million ft on our farm with it.

The two brothers that bought it new, had the new plow bolted to the new 450 Steiger, plow has never been unbolted, tractor has 31xx hours on it.

Dan

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neukm
Posted 3/21/2018 16:15 (#6656359 - in reply to #6656151)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows


EC IL
are you sure you guys don't need to sell that thing? :-)
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gpsdude
Posted 3/22/2018 08:15 (#6657685 - in reply to #6655397)
Subject: RE: Older steigers and tile plows


NE South Dakota Clark, SD
2900 PSI is what I would recommend, but if you have at least 2500 you will not have many problems. Under 2500, you may have issue holding grade with 8 inch and larger pipe or if you are deep. Chances are with big pipe and deep, traction will be your biggest problem unless you are looking at a Tiger. The biggest problem I see with older tractors is gearing. The operator tries to go slow, and does not have enough RPM to create the pressures required. Open center tractors need rpm to create pressure and flow. Most plows will not need more to a few gallons a minute while tiling. I would suggest having a flow and pressure test done at operating speed (RPM).
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