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Poe farmer
Posted 2/19/2018 04:52 (#6588431)
Subject: Case 1896 question?


Michigan
Looking at one for a small job cheap tractor. Looks like the 1896 has same powershift as the 2094 only with a better engine. Do they have as many problems as the others? Probably wrong but being a smaller tractor one in good shape that hasn't got alot of hours wouldn't of had the snot worked out of it? Looks like the exact same tractor as the 2096, and I imagine it can be turned up to match horsepower as 2096 and 7110? Have all Deere tractors but this seems like a nice older tractor with good comfort and looks like it would be nice to operate. It would spread fertilizer, run small manure pump, merge hay, cut hay sometimes, and run a drill. Thanks
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nebfarmer
Posted 2/19/2018 05:48 (#6588462 - in reply to #6588431)
Subject: RE: Case 1896 question?


SE Nebraska, Near Misery and Cans Ass!
Only difference between 1896 and 2096 is the turbocharger and the pump setting and the exhaust temperature reading on the dash. If I bought an 1896 the first thing I would do would be find a turbo and Etc off a 2096 and put on it! As much as I loved my 69 4020 I miss that 2096 a lot more.
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Jon
Posted 2/19/2018 06:05 (#6588471 - in reply to #6588462)
Subject: RE: Case 1896 question?



Callao Missouri
1896 will have a turbo'd 5.9 Cummins. It will work great in all those jobs. The only thing to watch is don't back up to the lagoon pump, leave it in reverse and walk away for half a day. You will rebuild the power shift. Just put it back in forward and everything will be ok. If leaving in in reverse turns out to be a problem for you, you can put a chime or a ringer on the reverse wire of the circuit board under the shift console and you will not for get it. Unless you have 6 or 7000 series Deeres or newer you will start gravitating quickly to the 1896 and be looking for more Case's Jon
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brudno
Posted 2/19/2018 07:28 (#6588581 - in reply to #6588462)
Subject: RE: Case 1896 question?


SC WI
Difference between a 2096 is an aftercooler on the 2096, I wouldn't say the 5.9 in the 1896 is any better than the 504 in the 2094 at all, just more modern. I have a 2096 its been a great tractor and will never leave my farm. They're a great tractor that CaseIH continued to manufacture even after the introduction of the Magnums as they filled a niche they didn't think the 7110 could. Hard to work the snot out of one in my opinion without really weighting one down, they're fairly well weighted without any added weights but traction will come up short before power in my experience.
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retento
Posted 2/19/2018 07:29 (#6588582 - in reply to #6588471)
Subject: RE: Case 1896 question?


Eastern North Carolina
I believe that the Cummins 5.9 in the 2096 was intercooled also...... 1896 wasn't.



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Pvafarm
Posted 2/19/2018 07:48 (#6588624 - in reply to #6588581)
Subject: RE: Case 1896 question?


Southeast WI
Sure they didn't have a crap load of parts left over to use up? :)).

I have a 2290 and once we got the tranny cleaned out (someone put a bearing in on the powershaft and didn't shim it properly) it's been a decent tractor. Been impressed how a 35 year old tractor is that quiet plus it has good power and always starts.
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brudno
Posted 2/19/2018 08:41 (#6588736 - in reply to #6588624)
Subject: RE: Case 1896 question?


SC WI
lol, well they did move production from Racine, to the UK and made some changes along the way so I doubt it had to do with parts, they had that gap between selling the remaining 94s and tooling up for the Magnums that they could've used up any excess parts. The Maxxums 51x0's came out in 1990 after production of the 96s ceased, so they were filling the need for a smaller tractor than the Magnum that would fill the 100-130 horse gap while still getting good fuel economy. The Maxxums were to light to ever truly replace the 2096 but that size tractor was pretty much not needed by the time the early 90's rolled around.

I do think the 8000 series Allis tractors had a nice cab but the 90 and better refined later with the 94 series Case tractors really had the best cab's of the era in my mind and control layouts that along with the tilt hood really paved the way to the operator friendly tractors that came after, It's to bad the Magnums didn't get a 94 series cab they would have been that much better of a tractor than they were.
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Poe farmer
Posted 2/19/2018 08:58 (#6588778 - in reply to #6588431)
Subject: RE: Case 1896 question?


Michigan
Another question. Had a 3594 we bought new, and when we parked it on a good incline it wouldn't come out of park easy at all. Does anybody have this trouble with these tractors? Just curious because it will spend some time on a good incline with the manure pump. May not be a big deal could always block the rear tires.
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Clodbuster1
Posted 2/19/2018 09:09 (#6588797 - in reply to #6588431)
Subject: The only other quirk:


I love all of my Case tractors from the 2290 to the 2594, but other than not leaving the power shift in reverse when you are not in the cab for a while as in a stationary PTO job, the other thing is that you really need to be able to remember to manually shift the 1-2-3 (or six speed) power shift back to 1 before you push down on the "clutch pedal."

It is not actually a clutch, but a hydraulic inching pedal. If you are in a higher power shift gear and stomp on the pedal, it will force the gears back to 1 very quickly. Usually too quickly and can damage the power shift transmission.

I grew up running these and have no problem at all. I now have a hired hand who is a good and smart guy, but can't always remember to shift to 1 and just stomps on the pedal and it locks up the trans on the 2594 and causes the rear wheels to skid to a stop. Not good.

He will probably be banned from running them if he does not learn it in a quick hurry. He does fine with the newer Magnum where the pedal can be pushed down in any gear.
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Clodbuster1
Posted 2/19/2018 09:18 (#6588824 - in reply to #6588778)
Subject: Yes.


There is a parking pawl that engages a gear for the park function. If you are on a slope it can get sort of stuck.

One thing to do if you can is turn the front wheels tightly one way or the other to hold the tractor before you put it in park. That usually works.

If it is stuck really hard and you don't want to jerk the lever too hard........Have the engine running and push down the "clutch" pedal. Use a screwdriver or wrench, etc. to put it in range 1 and then put the power shift in the direction that will take the pressure off of the parking pawl when you ease the tractor forward or reverse. Eg. if the front is downhill, use reverse. As you slowly ease out the clutch, put pressure on the shift lever to take it out of park. Then use the tool to put the trans in neutral, and then the shift lever will be in the correct spot again.
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jalopy
Posted 2/19/2018 18:52 (#6589968 - in reply to #6588736)
Subject: RE: Case 1896 question?


NC IA
brudno - 2/19/2018 07:41

... It's to bad the Magnums didn't get a 94 series cab they would have been that much better of a tractor than they were.


It's to bad the Magnums didn't get a 94 series cab they would have been that much better of a tractor than they were. *

FIFY
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bridge tender
Posted 2/19/2018 19:07 (#6590011 - in reply to #6588797)
Subject: RE: The only other quirk:


northern ohio lake erie
I wasnt shopping for one a tractor went for planter parts 5 years ago came home with one newer tires. front end rebuilt had had some other repairs i put about 200 hr's a year /any way i love it mostly on the planter starts good was on used a couple years on grain cart .
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bridge tender
Posted 2/19/2018 19:11 (#6590021 - in reply to #6588431)
Subject: RE: Case 1896 question?


northern ohio lake erie
Any way our tractor 7500 hrs.
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