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Von WC Ohio
Posted 1/25/2018 18:33 (#6531322)
Subject: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



Couple easy sheet metal projects from this afternoon.

Been wanting a sheet metal brake for a lot of years really could never justify the expense of a full blown pro model but always lacked a way to get nice even bends for simple but practical items like these. Been starting out doing a couple simple things getting a feel for how much metal to leave for the actual bend. Good way to improve my metal fab skills. 

Bought one on sale a while back at Harbor Freight and again I think this fits into you can't afford to buy the best of everything especially when you know it won't be getting used everyday.

It's rated for 16 gauge metal and that is what I used for these couple simple projects.

I had inquired earlier about how to repair this area in a recently acquired wagon.

https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=750603


I could not just cover this with sealant and decided to see if I could make some repair patches that would cover/ reinforce these areas.  The first step is to make a couple patterns out of thin cardboard to test fit and get the shapes right. It's easier to do in a couple pieces then tape them together for the finished piece that will need bent.

Cut the metal with a jig saw and got the edges all squared up to the cut lines. The vertical piece throws the angle off since you are dealing with a compound angle. Made them a bit oversized so they can be trimmed to fit exactly.

Next I thought I would take on a small project Paul Butler had inquired about a while back about finding hydraulic tip holders.

Was not sure the 16 gauge would be sturdy enough just as a flat piece. So I bent the edges back 1/2" or so on a flat sheet. It was amazing how rigid that made the piece.

Then I measured my old style JD tips in a couple different places. I needed a 15/16 hole for them to pass though and a 13/16 channel to slide in.  Made the hole and channel slightly undersized and gradually eased up to the correct dimension with a reamer for the hole and filing the slot after cutting with a jigsaw.

Here is how it will work it  will be bolted fast to the cross rail on the wagon and the bent wings extend off the back to add rigidity.

It would be pretty easy to modify this to fit anything that you wanted to install a tip holder on. It's basically the same style found on the 750 drill although that might be slightly thicker material.

Hope this gives others some ideas.

All in all very happy with ability of the HF brake to bend this material.

 

 

 

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Jim Dayton
Posted 1/25/2018 18:40 (#6531340 - in reply to #6531322)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)


Shoal Lake, Manitoba, Canada
Nice to see the great work you do, I've always thought a metal brake would be a great tool to have.

Jim
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Jim in Sask
Posted 1/25/2018 19:58 (#6531547 - in reply to #6531322)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)


Looks like a handy unit, Von. Mind if I ask what the price was?
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PatCMO
Posted 1/25/2018 20:44 (#6531682 - in reply to #6531322)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)


Pilot Grove, Missouri
Nice job Von. The problem I usually have when I make identical pieces that are mirror images like your patch panels. About half the time I make the second one backwards. Patrick
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Plow79
Posted 1/25/2018 21:32 (#6531848 - in reply to #6531547)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



Chilliwack BC
We got one from Princess Auto a few years ago that looks identical to his. Not sure on price.
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Von WC Ohio
Posted 1/25/2018 22:07 (#6531929 - in reply to #6531547)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



https://www.harborfreight.com/36-in-metal-brake-with-stand-62335.html

Don't remember exactly but I think it was under $200 on sale or might have been an inside track club special price.

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Von WC Ohio
Posted 1/25/2018 22:10 (#6531936 - in reply to #6531682)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



Yep I had to remember one got folded one direction the other the other way.

Part of the reason I made the cardboard pattern before cutting or bending it helps you visualize going from a flat shape to the end piece and how it will change after being bent.

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PatCMO
Posted 1/25/2018 22:34 (#6531982 - in reply to #6531936)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)


Pilot Grove, Missouri
I've gotten better over the years about double checking before performing some tasks. But I still screw up pretty often. Patrick
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barren
Posted 1/26/2018 05:34 (#6532140 - in reply to #6531322)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)


Glasgow, Ky
Thank you for your post. Had never considered getting one until I saw some of the things you have done with yours. I know one thing I will be getting the next time I am at HF.
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hf213
Posted 1/26/2018 06:32 (#6532208 - in reply to #6531322)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)


Lookin' good VON !

I think someone is getting the machine shop bug ??? next thing you know there will be a mill and a lathe in your arsenal .... :-) and then...it wont stop, it gets like an addiction.
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Von WC Ohio
Posted 1/26/2018 07:08 (#6532275 - in reply to #6532208)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



You could be right :-)

I have a lot of Ideas for things that you simply cannot find or buy.

I also enjoy making things but usually go overkill on the components.

Bending thicker stuff usually involves torch and welding pins or jigs & clamping stuff to the welding table to get it formed. The trouble is repeatability is often hard to get exact for say a pair of brackets.

I did pretty good with these. The main triangular pieces were formed with 1 piece of steel so there is only 1 weld where it comes together where the upright extends above the triangle.The other upright is bolted on to get the curved pivoting cradle in place.

The ultimate tools which will probably remain outside of budget are a ironworker.

This one is the coolest one I have seen for bending thick stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mucB1R-Kkvg

And a plasma cam for cutting intricate parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=LvIpgBNyXBs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=kw5ED_YLM9M

 

 

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R2farm
Posted 1/26/2018 12:58 (#6532985 - in reply to #6531322)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)


sw Nebraska
Cool projects, I just bought one of them also. Have a couple projects for it, always tried to improvise with c-clamps and angle irons clamped in a vice etc. It is actually quite a bit better quality than I expected. Have you figured out some sort of guage to tell the degrees of bend? I am struggling a bit with that.
It is priced at $229 in the sale flyer I got in the mail yesterday.


























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hf213
Posted 1/26/2018 15:17 (#6533235 - in reply to #6532985)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)


These work slick, and they are reasonable priced.
https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Electronic-Magnetic-Angle-Inclinomete...
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Von WC Ohio
Posted 1/26/2018 16:37 (#6533384 - in reply to #6532985)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



Not yet the triangle pieces I just bent to 90°

The hose tip holder I just eyeballed those angles.

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Von WC Ohio
Posted 1/26/2018 16:38 (#6533389 - in reply to #6533235)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



Cool find put on my Amazon wish list to monitor price.

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Adrian
Posted 1/26/2018 18:24 (#6533614 - in reply to #6533389)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



South Georgia
Von WC Ohio - 1/26/2018 16:38

Cool find put on my Amazon wish list to monitor price.



Off of the original topic, but there's a really helpful site to monitor prices on Amazon.

https://camelcamelcamel.com/

You can copy and paste the URL for something on Amazon, and it'll show you the price history. If you sign up for the free account, you can have it email you when an item gets to a set price. It works pretty well, and they haven't spammed me. I recommend it.

Not affiliated in any way, I just like the site and hope it helps.

Adrian
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Von WC Ohio
Posted 1/26/2018 19:09 (#6533707 - in reply to #6533614)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



Thanks for the tip I had not heard about that site.

 

Amazon wish list keeps track of items and if on the list long enough (year + ) you often see the price reduction and how much of a discount something has undergone since you put it on the list.

I have noticed that prices fluctuate a lot. One price when put on list then it might drop or it might go back up to original price and the discount that you previously saw disappears.

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pbutler
Posted 2/4/2018 06:52 (#6553006 - in reply to #6531322)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



Macon, IL
Your projects are always so clean-nice work!
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Von WC Ohio
Posted 2/4/2018 08:56 (#6553227 - in reply to #6553006)
Subject: RE: Easy sheet metal projects: pbutler you might like (pics)



Thanks !

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