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nc ia | Looking at a R62 and wondering what has been the upgrades on the 65 and 66. The 62 was made for several years and is there much difference from early to late 62's ? TIA |
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Pilot Grove, Missouri | It is my understanding that a late 62 (2001 -2002) will have most of the upgrades as a 65. Just what I have been told. Patrick |
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 Ks | The cab and electronics are big improvement on the 65, much better HVAC and flex head controls use potentiometers. 66 updates where getting ready for the S series, 4 bps unload rate and 10 inch bin fill auger. lateral header tilt is nice to have also. |
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Strathcona, mn | In 96 they went to the long shoe. After that there weren't a lot of updates to the -2 series. Lateral tilt started in 96 with a hart carter built face plate the same size as the small hookup, (I had one), worked fine. In 97' gleaner built their own lateral tilt with the larger hook up plate. I believe in 97 they started painting the machines.
The cabs are nicer on the 5 and 6 series. I have had more electrical glitchy stuff on them though. They went to a canbus wiring system IMO it is more tempermental to glitches. The 2 series cabs have better visibility without the corner cab posts. The larger unload auger is nice but isn't used to fullest capacity until the 6 series when they up sized the auger in bottom of grain bin. The small unload auger was 2.2bpm, larger auger was 2.8bpm, and 6 series with larger bin auger was 4.0bpm. In 07' they started with some improvements working towards the super series and ramped up further in the 6 series. Biggest capacity improvements were the oval housing for clean grain auger under shoe (5 series) and larger clean grain auger into tank (6 series). My 96 r72 woukd seem to max out about 2000-2200bph, my 07 r75 about 2500-2800bph and my 09r76 about 4000bph. The cages were punched for fast pitch helicals in 07' but were not standard till 10'. Sisu engines came in 07'. Same engine in r65-r75. Can make a r65 into a r75 with a reprogram like Eco tune. Dropped feeder housing factory in 09. By 09'-10' they had all of the refinements that they woukd have in small rotor series. Very good combines without tier 4 emissions. I'm personally not a hugs cdf rotor fan. It doesnt worn very well in my crops and I prefer a modified open 8 bar rotor instead. I have a 07' r75 and a 09' r76 with some of dan hurts mods and they won't be leaving anytime soon. I'm hoping to keep them around for a lot of years. I have had a 92' and a 96' r72s in the past for comparison. |
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Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska | As mentioned above on the upgrades. The cab was one of the biggest changes. 5 and 6 series have much better air conditioning and air movement. The Sisu engine is great. Holds rpms steady which makes the combine perform better. Still very good fuel economy. |
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Southern Idaho | Long shoe in '96 and painted starting in'98
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Central Alberta | Actually the SISU started on the '06 models. +1 on the fuel economy. You can get a lot of capacity with a Gleaner and still haul fuel to the field in a slip tank in the back of a pickup. |
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| I have an S67. If I were going to buy another I would probably buy an R66.
To me the fast unload is a major upgrade and is important.
The only other things I really like on the S series that I would hate to be without is the electric folding grain bin extensions and the reversing fan. |
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Tennessee | 66 and 76 use the same engine. 75 had m11 cummins. 65 had 8.3. We actually liked the R62 cab better than the new one because of visibility. The a/c was terrible though. If I was harvesting much winter wheat or was a little further south, I'd prefer the newer cab. |
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Pontiac IL | If you are getting a R62 there is ALOT of rework to the throat, cage, rotor, etc etc to get it to where they SHOULD be. You can make a R62 a monster for its age and size if done corrently. |
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 Texas/New Mexico Stateline | Yes. I have always been surprised at the fuel economy even with the M-11 in our 72.
I've been around some neighbors with JDs and it is quite shocking how much fuel they burn in a day in comparison.
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Nebraska, The land of corn and cattle | We have a very late 02 R62 Custom Harvestor. After all the mods weve done its basically a 65 with some improvements. 2 series have probably the best visibilty, the AC is ok, but you wont freeze, the heater on the otherhand, Im pretty sure I could cook a turkey in there if I wanted.
The engine is a 8.3 QSC with the CAPS system, take that how you wish, ours is great other than the fact it doesnt seem to want to start well in the at about 30 degrees. Earlier ones had mechanical 8.3 and very early had the turboed V8 Duetz
Like others said, 96 got longer shoe, 98 they got painted. Other than that they are fairly similar. DO NOT get one with the turret auger, ours is and its the only thing we dont like about the machine, its not that its unreliable, probably better than the others at the time, but its slow and noisy. Once youve had the swivel auger, you dont know how lucky you are until you dont. Ours uses the potentiometers and its much better than the 3 finger switches.
On late 62s you can easily upgrade alot of things to how they were on 65s, we eleminated the top slip clutch on the feederhouse, just changed the hub, still used the same pulley. We also upgraded to the bigger 65 top feed shaft and sprockets. Ours came to us with a CDF and if you can I reccomend it for corn and beans.
But like all Gleaners what really makes them shine is when you start modding them, Hurtt floor kit, feederhouse corner cover, extended helicals, sweeps, 2 reverse bars, shimmed bars on a CDF, lowered chopper floor, high clearance chopper. All those weve done, and it makes it an eating machine, right now with a 6-36 3000 head we dont lose any rpms over just the machine running. Thats going 4.5-5mph in 200+bu corn. Green beans are no problem, neither is weeds, if the head cuts it off, it will go through without plugging, I doubt weve used the reverser more than once or twice a year. |
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nc ia | Hey guys that is a lot of good info. I look into a 62 close by and found out was a 94 year. Sounds like a 01 02 62 or a 65 is a better fit. These mods that are talked about, where do go to get these parts? I have seen some guys do a poor job spreading heavy residue . Would a fine cut chopper help this? Looking to upgrade by next harvest so I have some time to shop. Is there much capacity difference from a 65 to 75? Or just hp and bigger grain tank? Growing up we had a F3 with the swivel auger and we never would put back in if was full of grain. Always had to be empty, is that still true or just personal preference? |
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Nebraska, The land of corn and cattle | If you can swing it than yes, the later model would be better. If not, that 94 would do a good job as well. While youre shopping, Im not sure if the 5 series continued it, but in the 2s the Custom Harvestor Special is the model to look for, they had the bigger header lift cylinders, chromed augers, and the larger final drives all standard
As the mods go, the feederhouse floor kit is a must IMHO, it really makes a difference in beans. That you get from the Butler store in Hoople ND. It was owned and still run by the Hurtt family. Just call them and tell them what you have and they will hook you up. A couple of days and a welder, torch and grinder and youll be done.
The spacer bars for the CDF we got from AGCO. The Sweep kit came from Sunnybrook via AGCO. Top feeder shaft, sprockets, and hub to eliminate torque limiter as well as the extended helicals are all OEM Gleaner parts. Chopper is a Rodono and lowered chopper floor, both came from PFP. Feederhouse corner cover was homemade.
The fine cut chopper will help some, but alot of people dont realize that it does take some tinkering to make them spread residue evenly because theres 2 discharges instead of 1. By playing with the paddles on the spreader and the vanes above the shoe they can spread pretty even. We do a better job than some of our neighbors with much newer JD. Another thing is it depends on the amount of material, we combined some poor beans this year, 30bu/ac and werent happy with the residue spread, but when we got into good beans again it was fine, there just wasnt enough material. PFP also has some extended vanes if you feel the need.
As far as capacity, the only difference between a 6 and a 7 of any series was the HP, I "think" the grain tank was the same, just the extensions were different. There might be some capacity difference only from the extra HP, but after doing the mods HP is not the limiting factor. Somewhere out in the world Gleaner made a booklet a few years ago that explained the differences between models, what improvements were made in certain years and what could be retrofitted on to older machines. Maybe ask a local dealer if you can get a copy or call AGCO and they should be able to send you one. Its called "Guide to pre-owned 2003-2015 Gleaner combines". I know that anything newer than 03 could be retrofitted with the 2 speed hydro, which would be awesome if you had hills, unfortunatly no one could tell us for sure if it would work on our late 02.
As far as swiveling the auger in and out full, yes they are much better than the older models, but as always if you can empty it, its definatly better, but it wont break it by folding it full.
If you have any questions, email works fine.
Edited by berggrenfarms 11/24/2017 09:04
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Stewart, MN | Here's a link to the guide mentioned above...
http://dev.agcodirect.com/getfile.php?id=449
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nc ia | That guide has a lot of good stuff to go over. After reading all these posts, wondering if a 62 or 65 is too big for me. Looking to run a 6-30 corn head. But going 8=30 can be done to. So if machine is not up to capacity, will grain quality suffer? Grain quality is what I'm looking for. Do the accelerator rolls under cage damage grain any? Been many years since been around a gleaner so been thinking a lot. |
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 Texas/New Mexico Stateline | I would say no to both your questions.
Cyl speed and not running too much returns will affect grain quality.
The Gleaner swivel unloader system will have a slight advantage on quality with less augers and turns for the grain to make.
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 Georgetown, Kentucky | saving |
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