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riversedgefarms
Posted 9/23/2017 08:22 (#6264999)
Subject: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically


Eagle River Ontario Canada
Hi we recently bought an old case 1060 combine, this is the first year that we have tried grain and i have limited experience running threshing equipment. we Harvested a little bit of wheat last night to make sure all the functions were working correctly. so far so good. but we got alot of straw and full heads in the grain tank. Im wondering if anyone has a working knowledge of these machines and how to set the sives and drum speed ect. any help is much appreciated. we have about 4 days of bad weather coming so there is some time to get it dialled right in before the good weather comes at the end of next week.
Thanks



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Schuerman Farms
Posted 9/23/2017 08:49 (#6265053 - in reply to #6264999)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically



WC MN & Valley of the Sun, AZ
It's been a long time but would say you need more cylinder speed and/orr tighter concave.
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IH884
Posted 9/23/2017 08:59 (#6265071 - in reply to #6264999)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically


Central Alberta
Had a similar problem with an IH 403 this week. All combines are very similar inside so to deal with unthreshed heads you need to bring the concave closer to the cylinder and possibly speed up cylinder. Then watch for cracking and slow cylinder once you get cracking. If the wheat was tough like ours was, then it is more difficult to get complete threshing. If rasp bars and concave are worn then you have problems completely threshing wheat whereas it will be fine in easier threshing crops like oats, canola or peas. The other thing to do is to closing the bottom sieve a little and return more unthreshed heads back to the cylinder for another threshing pass. Straw in the tank is dealt with by upping the fan speed and closing the top sieve a little bit. Go to ytmag.com forum and post on the combines or case page there since there are a number of farmers on there that still use these machines for specific settings.
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twraska
Posted 9/23/2017 09:07 (#6265082 - in reply to #6264999)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically


Wallis, TX
Been 35 years since I last ran mine, but the basic adjustment is the same on any color conventional machine.

You will need to keep an eye on your tailings elevator, IIRC it was driven from the bottom and wasn't very tolerant of being loose cause the slack side was the material carrying side.

The other thing I should ask is what type of cylinder do you have? Rasp bar or spike tooth? That would make a big difference in setup.

Edited by twraska 9/23/2017 09:12
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dsfarms3585
Posted 9/23/2017 09:09 (#6265086 - in reply to #6265082)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically


NY
I would suggest you visit yesterday’s tractor forum there are several people who run a fleet of them over there
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gbenkfarm
Posted 9/23/2017 09:24 (#6265104 - in reply to #6264999)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically



SeMN
In the old conventional combines doing small grain I would make sure cylinder speed is up around 1200 and concave set down to 1/4 -3/8 inch. Fan speed should get set just high enough to blow the chaff and straw out the back.
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Russell
Posted 9/23/2017 09:24 (#6265107 - in reply to #6264999)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically



Springfield, MN
What is your concave setting? Front and back. Both need to be set. Should be a good machine.
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Shimmy1
Posted 9/23/2017 09:41 (#6265136 - in reply to #6264999)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically



Central ND
While I wasn't old enough to ever run/set them, my grandpa had several 1660's and a 1060. It was a long time ago, but I remember him saying cylinder speed needed to stay at 1000 rpm. If wheat was tough threshing, they would tighten concave up until it was hitting, then back off a half-turn. The fan speed was set with a crank that adjusted pulley spread to change speed. I only remember one crank for the concaves, but the rods to the front and back were threaded at the bottom, I assume for adjusting level front to back. As someone said upthread, the return elevator is driven from the bottom, AND it has to turn another auger to take tailings into the cylinder.
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wht one
Posted 9/23/2017 10:13 (#6265188 - in reply to #6265136)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically


E. CO, exactly half way between NE and OK
Like Shimmy 1 says, in wheat the back of the concaves should be set so they just don't hit and the front about 1/4". Speed the cylinder up until you see cracked grain, then slow it down a little. If you see unthreshed heads in the grain bin, close the lower sieve down. See how much you are returning when you are cutting.

Now if you want to make it a wheat machine, take the concave out, take all the wires out of the concave, weld metal between the first four concave bars half way down the bars. You won't believe how much better job it will do.
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noluckatall
Posted 9/23/2017 12:17 (#6265329 - in reply to #6264999)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically


NEMO
Go to Yesterday's tractor site, and then go to combine section. Ask for Casenutty. He is an expert on these machines in small grains.
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GLW
Posted 9/23/2017 13:29 (#6265420 - in reply to #6265329)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically


Northeast Illinois

Nothing to add other than that's a great looking machine. 

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hillfarmer
Posted 9/24/2017 05:17 (#6266452 - in reply to #6265188)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically



wht one - 9/23/2017 11:13

Like Shimmy 1 says, in wheat the back of the concaves should be set so they just don't hit and the front about 1/4". Speed the cylinder up until you see cracked grain, then slow it down a little. If you see unthreshed heads in the grain bin, close the lower sieve down. See how much you are returning when you are cutting.

Now if you want to make it a wheat machine, take the concave out, take all the wires out of the concave, weld metal between the first four concave bars half way down the bars. You won't believe how much better job it will do.


If rasp bar cylinder blanking off 10 to 20 % of the concave will get the heads to thrash

with the separator off, close the sieves, all the way

throw some grain on the sieves, and open till the grain drops
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wht one
Posted 9/24/2017 09:19 (#6266855 - in reply to #6266452)
Subject: RE: older case combines. 960 -1660 specifically


E. CO, exactly half way between NE and OK
All of the wheat has to hit the first four concave bars and with the wires out of the concave, most of the grain falls through the concave before it leaves the cylinder. We had trouble with some wheat with two berries still together because they fell through the concave between the first and second concave bar. Now they have to hit the first four bars.
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mschultz
Posted 9/24/2017 10:53 (#6267054 - in reply to #6264999)
Subject: RE: Operator's Manual Available


Oregon
This will make your life a lot easier:

http://www.agkits.com/case-1060-combine-operators-manual-htca-o1060...

https://www.advancedmachineryparts.com/products/operators-manual-for...

https://www.amazon.com/Case-1060-Combine-Operator-Manual/dp/B00V3F1Y...


-Mike
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