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| Anyone ever go from a red or green combine to a lexion and regret it? What's the good and bad? 580R.
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South East Nebraska | Went from a 9870 to a 760TT I think the only thing will be the resale value in our area. However I don't plan on going back to red or green. So hopefully trading claas for a claas will be ok. |
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| I bought a 750T and it was the worst combine I had ever owned. I choked it up in sunflowers several times. I ended up just creeping at 1-2 mph to keep from dumping sunflowers out the back. The small sieve area was a big draw back on the 750. I was used to cutting sunflowers at 4-5 mph with the Cases.
In milo; I had never choked up a combine before. But choked the Lexion several times in different places. With the least bit of humidity; it would choke up in milo. I had never choked a Case axial flow combine. The only thing I liked about the combine was the tracks.
I would not consider a Lexion again.
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NW Iowa | Was it a used machine?
Something had to be wrong with it? We'd have trouble with our 590 in soybeans plugging the impeller. Finally figured out that with some hours on it that the front end of the rotors was so wore it couldn't grab the material. Went from plugging impeller every other day and cutting on pins and needles to nice smooth flow. This was at about 1700 sep hrs |
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ND | Once you buy one you are married to it, no resale. |
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| my 750 was new. Had many factory reps out to help set the machine.
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South cental Ohio | Went from a JD9650 to a Lexion 740 and never looked back except to wonder why we didn't do it sooner. You will get pros and cons about this subject , just like any color war. IMO, a properly set Lexion will give you the least amount of grain loss and the cleanest sample. Some of the stuff on a Lexion is a little "cruder" than some of its competitors but in a "simpler" way... if you get what I'm saying. We only run an 8 row head and a 35 foot draper on ours but it would easily handle more. I agree with the other posters ( except the one that had trouble) , resale may not be as good ( but not figuring on reselling ours- it will get traded for another. When we switched from life-long green to a Lexion....we had the normal teasing from our friends and I simply told them " don't knock a Lexion if you've never owned one". |
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NW Iowa | Crazy. Thats frustrating when a machine won't work and no one knows why---had major issues with a late model Deere tractor a few years back and you just about want it to burn to the ground overnight some time We've run several 580s and now this used 590 and I could coming about a few things but material throughout has never been one. |
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SW MN | If buying used I would pay to have a Good Tech check it over. there's areas that need to be checked. I bought a used 580r its been a good machine, they all need repairs. There are now a couple of non-oem places to get concaves, cylinders, and rear impeller's. that are much cheaper than class. Sometimes its the luck of the draw just like any thing else you buy. Also there's a learning curve, but its a machine that can be adjusted for all crop conditions. My personal belief is the 580 is over powered, 500hp through that machine is too much. You HAVE to react fast when the monitor buzzes telling you a shaft speed is low. I came from a NH TR 98 so there was a lot to learn. |
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The Internet | The resale on them on this side of the Atlantic is much better than anything else. The farm I work on has been using Claas combine since 1982 and we've had several Lexions. It's my first year on our 660 and it's a very impressive machine. I had a hydraulic pipe fail last week. The dealerships have been switched around here and were we got it from is no longer a "service agent", but can still get parts. I sent a picture of the part I wanted at 5:30pm and we had it when my manager went to pick it up the following morning. |
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NCND | I remember your thread saying happy happy happy after first day. Did the problems start then after that? |
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IL | This no resale line is getting old. Used combine values are in the toilet for all brands from Deere to Silver Seeders........
To the subject at hand... We are on our third with Deere 680's prior. We are burning half a gallon less fuel per acre in beans. In corn there is absolutely zero comparison in capacity.
I do wish Claas would look into driving the major systems with small cvt units. They claim the current is system is most efficient with pulleys; going through 4 belt/pulley combos to get to a component had to lose a bit of that efficiency.
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western iowa,by Denison | friend did-said it was worse thing he ever bought-came from a jd -and went to cacombine-is cat a lexion?anyhow wrnt to a 7240 case ih and runs hills-with hillside leveler-very happy to the tune of getting done in 30 days instead of 82 days-over $200,000 lost in equity |
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NW Iowa | I'm guessing there's a bit more to the story of an 82-day fall harvest than simply the brand of combine |
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East Central Ia | Best move we ever made. Went from life long red to Lexion. We could NOT keep corn in our 7010's, over fours years of trying and finally gave up and bought a 740.
Nothing will touch a Lexion in corn for capacity, qaulity, and efficiency. I like it in soybeans as well but it's not going to blow away other machines like it does in corn.
It will embarrass other combines in wet corn, over 22-25%.
Our dealer ended up building a new store in my town a couple years after we traded to Lexion. So parts and service have been great!
Lots of people demoing and switching to yellow in eastern Iowa. |
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East Central Ia | maxflex540 - 8/23/2017 06:34
I'm guessing there's a bit more to the story of an 82-day fall harvest than simply the brand of combine
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ND | So long as the dealer has some service Techs & parts. That's where Deere here shines. |
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Manitoba, Canada | It's a non issue being married to a beauty queen though. It's much better than waking up after drinking your favourite koolaid and finding out the 10 you married last night turned into a 3 this morning. Beware of koolaid!!! ;)
Seriously though, around here the resale is now in line with everyone else. The problem with resale was due to the service end of things, not the combine itself. The dealers seem to be getting that figured out now.
Edited by havin'funfarming 8/23/2017 08:25
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SW Michigan | We are on our 3rd Lexion. What gets me is the 750tt is a beast, I can't even imagine what the 780tt can do. All I can say is you better have trucks lined up. |
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North Central Ohio | Agree with all posters above. In soybeans there is absolutely no advantage to the Lexion, but in corn the capacity is unbelievable. We were seeing 6-7 gal/hr less with a 760tt than a S680 running right next to it. Plus the 760 is averaging 1100-1200 bu/hr more capacity. |
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NW in. | How much faster do you have to drive to do 1200 but an hour more? |
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ohio | all combine values are down but Lexions are way lower than green or red in Ohio. At least half . Traders will not even give a price. The few guys I know that have them say that they have alot ofcapacity but higher maintainance |
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Carbondale, KS | Consider the poster. |
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East Central Ia | jdbob8100 - 8/23/2017 07:00
So long as the dealer has some service Techs & parts. That's where Deere here shines.
Agree. Service and parts is a big part of it. |
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NCND | I was bidding 750tt last week with 881 sep. brought 184k
Two 680 deeres today with 900 sep brought 143,145k. Seems you get into the newer models those things are strong as Deere resale |
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| That's when it was new. Then, 1 month later, volunteer sunflowers came up like a green highway; behind the combine. I had much more trash behind the 750 TT . That's when I realized I had to slow down to 1-2 mph in sunflowers. I followed every recommendation to the letter ; and the small sieve area of the 750 TT was the most limiting factor. the Lexion was far too aggressive for sunflowers. With everything set wide open; the heads were still totally destroyed in small pieces. With my 4 Case's ; I could leave many heads in 1 piece; with the seed removed.
My experience in milo was even more disappointing. I bought a Case 7230; which has almost twice the sieve area of the 750 TT.
I am pleased with my Case 7230 . I've had it for 3 years. Much more capacity and better sample quality than my 750 TT.
I also like the new Gleaners.
I never ran my 750 TT in corn. Yes, I heard they were great in corn.
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Carbondale, KS | Haven't switched to one but here are my thoughts with my 585. Like most have said, beast in corn...once corn goes in, it doesn't go anywhere but the grain tank. I think it's fine in beans but I don't know if it's better in beans than anything else. There is a learning curve but it isn't overwhelming IMO. Most wear items can be replace relatively easy even though it looks overwhelming when you lift up the side panel. We have a great service center that has knowledgeable techs and good inventory. |
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North Central Ohio | Indrtfmr - 8/23/2017 12:41
How much faster do you have to drive to do 1200 but an hour more?
Roughly 1.3-1.5 MPH in 225 bu/ac corn |
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The Internet | ironjock - 8/23/2017 18:20 all combine values are down but Lexions are way lower than green or red in Ohio. At least half . Traders will not even give a price. The few guys I know that have them say that they have alot ofcapacity but higher maintainance Higher maintenance that what? 10 hour greasing amounts to greasing the straw chopper which takes seconds. The 660 I'm driving doesn't take any more servicing that the 2388's I was driving 20 years ago. |
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Anyone regret buying a lexion combine?
