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challenger141
Posted 6/29/2017 19:33 (#6097002)
Subject: Shoup replacement parts


WC Iowa
I'm going to be rebuilding our planter and I've been checking with after market parts and shoup seems to be the cheapest. Are they cheap for a reason? How do their openers hold up?
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Lauritsenag
Posted 6/29/2017 19:42 (#6097023 - in reply to #6097002)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts


finished the 4th season with their openers on a White 6322. (600 acres per year, no-till) No bearing problems ,haven't measured them, but looked good when I was getting planter ready.
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ihmanky
Posted 6/29/2017 19:52 (#6097046 - in reply to #6097002)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts



KY

I have both openers and closers from shoup on my CIH, probably 1400~ acres on them, zero issues.  I buy all I can from them, usually around NFMS time to get the 10% discount for pickup.

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Dmpaul89
Posted 6/29/2017 19:58 (#6097059 - in reply to #6097002)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts


Sw. Ill
They are china bearings on the openers. Just fyi. I wish they would give an option to have name brand bearings. Id pay more for USA. Blades are Canadian and seem fine.
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Dirtroadend
Posted 6/29/2017 20:13 (#6097098 - in reply to #6097002)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts


NW IN
I have used them for years with no issues on planter and strip tiller. Good heavy blades and no bearing trouble as long as one checks space between blades every year. 600 acres per year, finished third year on the set.
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rancherman
Posted 6/29/2017 21:28 (#6097296 - in reply to #6097002)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts



I built my 7200 2 winters ago  with shoup parts;  Double disk fert openers,  a couple of  arms for those disk openers,  all new  no-till coulters  and bearings,  and lastly,  the  trailing closing wheel arms.  

Can't seem to see any  adverse wear after only  2 seasons,  so I can't really give an honest  answer.   Everything looks to be going around, and up and down as  reqd.  

But  reading  several  recent posts about their parts pretty much centers around the  cheaper bearing being  used.    I  don't believe they are the only guilty vendor..  so  check  what others may be offering.  

I think money saved is  about offset by  a little shorter  service life.   So if you are thinking about   trading planter in a  year or two,   aftermarket may be the way to go.   Keeping it  for a longer time?   might be better off to  go full name brand.

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Mark (EC,IN)
Posted 6/29/2017 22:11 (#6097409 - in reply to #6097002)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts



Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana
I split a planter a few years back.

Put Shoup seed and fertilizer openers on one-half, and Deere steel on the other half.

The only difference was I spent more for the Deere stuff. If I hadn't written down which was which you couldn't tell the difference.
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cotncrzy
Posted 6/30/2017 07:59 (#6097852 - in reply to #6097059)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts



PROSPECT, TENNESSEE
FWIW, I have family that works in a Timken plant, formally Fafinar. Products built there now is same spec. As china, so all bearings are junk...
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mwfarmer
Posted 6/30/2017 08:15 (#6097872 - in reply to #6097059)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts


I have some Deere and CNH equipment on the farm and have done tests/side by side. Deere openers come with Koyo bearings (same as Shoup), Koyo is from China/Japan. CNH openers have Peer bearings in them (same as Shoup), Peer is from China. Just for kicks one time i checked Agco blades thinking they might be the same as my Deere blades, same bearing but guess what......it was a Peer bearing. I always read on here about guys wanting only bearings in openers made in the U.S.......is there such a thing even available??? Not saying either the OEM or Shoup is right or wrong by using bearings from China, but is there another option?
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Dmpaul89
Posted 6/30/2017 08:56 (#6097969 - in reply to #6097872)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts


Sw. Ill
I think the demand is there, may not be that size made right now in the USA but given the option i believe farmers would pay $5 more per opener for a quality bearing. I would. I would also be ok with a japan bearing.
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patchar
Posted 6/30/2017 12:38 (#6098300 - in reply to #6097002)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts


Remus,Michigan
We use should for everything except seed tubes I prefer the John Deere
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mhagny
Posted 6/30/2017 18:56 (#6098820 - in reply to #6097852)
Subject: RE: Shoup replacement parts


cotncrzy - 6/30/2017 06:59 FWIW, I have family that works in a Timken plant, formally Fafinar. Products built there now is same spec. As china, so all bearings are junk...

Fafnir bearings have been low quality for quite 10 - 15 yrs now.  Some China-made brgs easily surpass them.

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