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northeastern Ohio | We have many many old bank barns around the farm. We've had a airless sprayer for 30 years and a manlift for almost 25 years. I spent many days scraping the old wood siding, renailing boards and spraying on many different kinds of paint. None of them last forever and some didn't last but a few years. 30 years ago we used oil base paint with some Penetrol mixed in (I have no idea if it helped or not). Sometime ago we switched to latex.
I've tried the cheap stuff (BARN and fence paint) from TSC and I've used the Behr premium from Home Depot. The Behr has held up much better. Dad came home with some buckets of Valspar StormCoat tonight. Looks cheap to me and I'll probably regret putting it on.......
I'm sure that everyone would recommend putting on metal siding and never paint again. It's not in the budget this year, so lets save that discussion for another day.
I want the paint to stick!
My neighbor had his barn siding sandblasted and it has held up great. But the cost was great too!
I've seen "professional" guys pressure wash the old siding and then paint the next day. I've never tried that. How does latex paint stick to wet wood? Latex is water based, so does it help to have the moisture content of the wood higher or should it be drier? I know the old oil base paints liked dry wood better.
I know prep is the most important part. Need to get all loose paint off. Need to fix so that the water stays on the outside of the structure. But why does one paint stick better than another? What's the magic ingredient and how do I know if I'm getting the good stuff (is price the only way to tell?)?
Here's a picture of our home barn. Painted it about 12 years ago. This is the west side that takes the most abuse. We put two coats on the far section. Two coats definitely lasted longer. I'm pretty sure this was the cheap barn paint from TSC....
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dubuque, ia | you probably don't want to hear this but.... put ribbed steel on and be done with it |
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| Jay can you fill me in on the term bank barn? I've always heard about government grain bins, but never bank barns. Oh by the way I hate painting! LOL |
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iowa | that's what we did, looks great and will last a long long time!! |
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northeastern Ohio | Russ In Idaho - 6/18/2017 19:52
Jay can you fill me in on the term bank barn? I've always heard about government grain bins, but never bank barns. Oh by the way I hate painting! LOL
Hi Russ,
A bank barn is a two story barn that has one side on higher ground so that you can drive into the upper part. In other words, the block foundation you see in my picture above is on the lower side and there is dirt up against the other side to form a ramp (some call it a bridge) to enter the upper structure. Cows were housed in the lower part and loose hay in the upper. Probably mostly found in the rolling plowground (hilly) parts of eastern Ohio and most of Pennsylvania.
Bank in this case is the bank of dirt that abuts the foundation. Here are some google pics of all the different styles: https://www.google.com/search?q=bank+barn&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ...
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Memphis, NY | Stone/cement basement barns. Usually built into a bank, similar to a walk out basement. The cattle are house in the bottom floor, with a hay loft above. |
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Kingston,Mi | We painted several barns and my house with solid tinted stain. All 3 projects lasted about 15 years before needing a recoat. So far only the house has peen re-done. Advantage of stain is no loose flacking paint. One barn had not been painted in 40 plus years and it took a lot of material to cover the weathered yellow pine boards. 30 years later it still has some color left.
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NC Iowa | NEVER paint wood.
Wood was never meant to be painted in an exterior environment, I would scrape and pressure wash it all off, then apply a white colored stain (since you won't get every piece of paint off). The next time you need to reapply you just clean it with bleach and water hose, let it dry for a couple days and recoat, the wood sucks the stain right in and looks perfect again. |
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Eastern Half of Kansas | Find a Tommy Gorman**** |
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West Chazy, New York | There used to be a barn painter in Pennsylvania who used an old fire truck with a platform wide enough for two or three men to work together. His technique was for one or two men to work sprayers and an additional man with a long handled brush following them and brushing the paint. It wasn't just the seams; they brushed every part of the surface. It really did seem to help, and his paint lasted a good long while. For what it's worth, he was firmly committed to using Athey paints. He also did roofs, which was fun to watch. They ran the hoses over the peak and used them for holding the men. They never used ropes or harnesses; just walked down to the edge of the roof and someone would pull the hose back as they walked backwards up the slope spraying as they went. Get to the top and walk down to the edge and do it all over again. |
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West Chazy, New York | I think you'll find bank barns are a German tradition. There is a track that runs the length of the barn with a car on the track that carries a rope hoist with a hay hook on one end. Back your wagon of hay up the bridge, unhook one horse and hitch him to the hay hoist. Set the hooks in the hay and send the horse forward. When the load of hay reaches the top it will trip a release on the car, allowing it to roll to the end of the barn (the track is on a slight angle). When the hay is over the mow, release the hooks, pull the car back over the wagon and do it again. Easterners don't have the luxury of storing hay outside, especially loose hay. You will never see a beaverslide East of the Mississippi. |
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northeastern Ohio | mafrif - 6/18/2017 21:47
NEVER paint wood.
Wood was never meant to be painted in an exterior environment, I would scrape and pressure wash it all off, then apply a white colored stain (since you won't get every piece of paint off). The next time you need to reapply you just clean it with bleach and water hose, let it dry for a couple days and recoat, the wood sucks the stain right in and looks perfect again.
You have my interest. Do you have a stain that you would recommend? I see the expensive one listed below is also a sealer. Will it really last that much longer?
The local Home Depot has several Behr stains to choose from:
$166 per 5 gallon and a 25 year life: http://www.homedepot.com/p/BEHR-Premium-5-gal-White-Tint-Base-Solid...
$130 per 5 gallon and a 15 year life: http://www.homedepot.com/p/BEHR-5-gal-Deck-Plus-White-Tint-Base-Sol...
$107 per 5 gallon and a 10 year life: http://www.homedepot.com/p/BEHR-5-gal-White-Solid-Color-House-and-F...
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northeastern Ohio | Big Square - 6/18/2017 23:26
Find a Tommy Gorman****
I don't get the joke? Wiki on Tommy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Gorman |
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KY | I heard of a guy painting barns with ink. Got it in 55 gal drums somewhere. |
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all over Iowa | I'd personally save the time and money on paint and painting, and put up with the weathered boards until I could afford to put metal on it.
Metal not only looks good, but it can help the barn to last longer (if it's something you want to keep using) so it's a good investment. |
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Madison Co. Virginia | The landlord wrapped a bank barn in white vinyl siding. Looks really nice, actually. I'm sure it's cheaper than metal, but I don't know by how much. |
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NC Iowa | None of those. You want the most harmful, nastiest stuff available. It has to be oil based. If it says it can be cleaned up with water and soap its not worth applying. My house was done originally with diamond vogel, most of it lasted over 20 years and looked great, when reapplied it just richened the color a bit, the back side that doesn't see sun l just recoated after 38 years.
We recoated my FIL's 100+ year old barn 6 years ago. Most of it we didn't do a thing, it hadn't been done for 20-30+ years and was getting pretty faded, but the wood was nice and dry and sucked it right in. Still looks perfect today. He bought his from fleet farm or tractor supply. It was just labeled "red barn stain", comes in 5 gallon metal buckets.
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NC Iowa | This is what he used. https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/dikon-oil-barn-fence-paint-semi-glo...
They call it paint, but not sure I would. Seems like they call it paint if it has any color to it. Good luck. |
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Time to paint old bank barns again... need tips to make it last longer
