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Itchy![]() |
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SW Iowa | 1.5"-2" | ||
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Lscholl![]() |
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East central Indiana | I did mine at 1.75 in no till with heavy residue in east central Indiana. May have been a little deep but some of the soil was very dry. (image.jpeg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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John Smith![]() |
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South Central Illinois | What is the plan? 10% on the soil surface, these are up already. | ||
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Lscholl![]() |
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East central Indiana | Did I do too deep? | ||
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Pvafarm![]() |
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Southeast WI | Are you placing them at 1.75" or is the drill "set" at 1.75"? That's deep for beans but they can make it under good conditions. I had a corn row unit loose a depth handle last year and go as deep as possible. Still 75-80% of them came up but that was in 30" rows. | ||
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John Smith![]() |
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South Central Illinois | 90% of the time it will rain and bring up the shallow ones. 10% of the time those rains will arrive 5 weeks later. | ||
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earnhart sil![]() |
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southern il. | around here this year a short finger nail depth has been about right, if they dont float off. I usually plant first finger joint in good moisture. Edited by earnhart sil 5/21/2017 08:42 | ||
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Lscholl![]() |
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East central Indiana | Drill set at 1.75 so with the debris on top I figure I was about 1.5 seeding depth. Plus I have 1/4 play in my seed boot. | ||
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Rod!![]() |
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NW IL | Aim for 1" in 15" rows no till | ||
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John Smith![]() |
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South Central Illinois | For me, if I can leave a few on top; Drop 140,000; 10% will not germ, says so on the bag. Exactly what is needed for 99% of max yield. Do not try this with naked seed. | ||
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Andy578![]() |
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Ontario | I aim for 2" but I'm also on light sand so it doesn't seem to make much difference. The clay spots we do have are very hard so I'm lucky if they even get covered there. | ||
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michigancornfarmer![]() |
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one year it was very dry I planted 4 Into moisture they were up in a week | |||
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Northwest Ohio | Surely you can do a better job of planting beans. I plant at 1.5 to 1.75 this time of year and they are essentially all in that range. All no-till with corn planter units on 15 inches. Can't imagine leaving beans on top. Looks like you're not anywhere from your profile. Maybe that explains all the beans left on top. | ||
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Lscholl![]() |
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East central Indiana | Thanks for info. This is actually my second year planting so have a lot,to,learn. Hope I get lucky. Planted 180k seeds per acre | ||
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Oliver1![]() |
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Alton, Ia | Take an inch off and you'll be fine. | ||
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John Smith![]() |
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South Central Illinois | Here in Southern Illinois they will grow from the soil surface. They are up already, those do not go deeper when it rains. The deep ones just go deeper with a heavy rain. | ||
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bleedred![]() |
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East Central Ia | We also shoot for 1.5-2" (IMG_0157.PNG) Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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fourcubs![]() |
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Interesting read we shoot for 1.25 with air drill. Very few on top 1" dirt over the top. 5 days in they are necking. Pissy weather makes me glad they are not deeper. The few on top are growing. 7.5" spacing new seed boots bonilla seed tabs with seed brakes. Like it so far except for a few plugged unnoticed rows. So 2 strips at 30" per 42.5'. we'll see our first year with the rig. Extremely heavy soil. 1/2 no-till. Edited by fourcubs 5/21/2017 09:49 | |||
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AGDEAL![]() |
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Illinois | Using a drill? | ||
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turdypointbuck![]() |
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NW Barton County Missouri | 1/2 inch. | ||
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earp![]() |
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Manila, Ar | 1 inch from soil line to the top of the seed max.........what don't come up will come up after a rain......;) | ||
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arthur![]() |
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northeast iowa | 2" don't change it from corn to soybeans. | ||
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johndeere430u![]() |
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Central, mn | 1" | ||
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10kb![]() |
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SW MN | first knuckle. | ||
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Lscholl![]() |
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East central Indiana | University of Nebraska study says 1.75 | ||
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Survivor![]() |
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Moreauville LA | Never understood the questions on planting depth. Don't you plant for it to come up? Not what some textbook says. Ive planted beans from where you could almost see them too 3-3.5" deep. Must be a HERE thing but I have seen more than once plant with the depth all the way back on beans to get to moisture. I disagree on a set depth to get some up and others when it rains. That can be a cluster~~~~ if too much or not enough rain falls. Clay ground bean HERE will come up even if it takes a shovel to find them. In sand, if they struggle, you are screwed from the start. If in doubt, plant deeper. Id rather lose a stand to them getting nailed by an unexpected rain than too shallow, stand and vigor loss from setting in the ground for three weeks(possibly at high daytime temps) waiting on a rain that may be too little or too much. Edited by Survivor 5/21/2017 12:28 | ||
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fairviewfarmer![]() |
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1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting. | |||
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fairviewfarmer![]() |
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I planted mine an inch deep one year in what I thought was dry dirt. They all came up before it rained. I guess I didn't know what dry dirt was. :) Edited by fairviewfarmer 5/29/2017 20:06 | |||
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illinidirtfarmer![]() |
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WC IL | Always at least 1.75". Have seen more stands fail from shallow planting than having them deeper. | ||
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cyfarms![]() |
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Northern Iowa | fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34 1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting. Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member. | ||
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John Smith![]() |
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South Central Illinois | Going to loose some of them no matter where it is set. | ||
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Itchy![]() |
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SW Iowa | Same here. Had more trouble with them too shallow, not in good moisture, then too deep. The hypocotyl pulling the cotyledon upward has tremendous strength to push up against the biggest dirt clod or crust. I have seen them pop the cotyledon off in the process of pushing up to the surface in hard, crusted soil, resulting in death. They don't push without moisture and warmth. Same with corn. it needs warmth and moisture to push out.. Old timers say you cannot plant corn too deep...I have often wondered which pushes harder--corn or soybean. Perhaps the corn has more stamina to push longer than a soybean, that will give up after a few days. ![]() ![]() Edited by Itchy 5/21/2017 13:25 | ||
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Lscholl![]() |
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East central Indiana | How much rain did u get? | ||
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Lscholl![]() |
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East central Indiana | Thanks for this info. I notice that 2.5 inch depth out yielded 1 inch depth. Edited by Lscholl 5/21/2017 14:07 | ||
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NW Central Ohio | ...I've heard of people getting away with that...as long as they don't get surprised by a heavy shower that crusts!...I'm not brave enough though!!!...LOL! | ||
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John Smith![]() |
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South Central Illinois | He only planted 4, Must have been a germ test. | ||
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Grhog![]() |
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Se wisc. | 1.25 here. Then rolling sets them .25 deeper. In dry years have beans swell, then dry out and die if planted shallower. Not the problem this year. Just cold wet soil. | ||
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fairviewfarmer![]() |
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4 inches in 5 days | |||
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fairviewfarmer![]() |
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cyfarms - 5/21/2017 13:03 fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34 1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting. Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member. what is your handle on CR ? ;) | |||
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dmswil![]() |
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mascoutah, IL | You must be planting some poor germ seed John. Remember just because the bag says 90% germ doesn't mean it can't be 99%. 90 is the limit for any beans I have ever planted. I can plant treated beans at 1.5 inches and get 95-100% of them up. This idea of having to see some beans on top is old school. With today's planters you shouldn't see any on top. Have planted some at 2+ before in extreme heat and been out of the ground in four days. This year so far I have been planting 1.25-1.5 depending on soil type but have good moisture. Edited by dmswil 5/21/2017 20:43 | ||
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cyfarms![]() |
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Northern Iowa | fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 19:59 cyfarms - 5/21/2017 13:03 fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34 1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting. Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member. what is your handle on CR ? ;) I will give you 3 guesses.. I don't know you personally but am probably a bigger smartass than you on CR......probably in person too. | ||
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+1 10% on top of the ground is a waste of money. When planting anything you should try to get all seeds at a uniform depth so they all emerge at the same time or else the later emerging plants act as weeds. While this is more of a concern in corn it also happens with other crops such as soybeans. | |||
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fairviewfarmer![]() |
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cyfarms - 5/21/2017 20:44 fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 19:59 cyfarms - 5/21/2017 13:03 fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34 1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting. Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member. what is your handle on CR ? ;) I will give you 3 guesses.. I don't know you personally but am probably a bigger smartass than you on CR......probably in person too. you must be "Cylent"....... :) | |||
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wildcat1000![]() |
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C IL | .. | ||
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cyfarms![]() |
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Northern Iowa | fairviewfarmer - 5/22/2017 02:53 cyfarms - 5/21/2017 20:44 fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 19:59 cyfarms - 5/21/2017 13:03 fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34 1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting. Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member. what is your handle on CR ? ;) I will give you 3 guesses.. I don't know you personally but am probably a bigger smartass than you on CR......probably in person too. you must be "Cylent"....... :) cyclone_81 | ||
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4450![]() |
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Nc Ks. | earp - 5/21/2017 09:05 1 inch from soil line to the top of the seed max.........what don't come up will come up after a rain......;) +1 Maybe a here thing on my ground but too deep and a big rain and you are asking for problems. Had a row unit on a JD 750 not set as deep as the others last year. Had three weeks of dry weather after planting before first shower. That late emerging row showed until about the latter part of August but by harvest time couldn't tell it from the others. Edited by 4450 5/22/2017 08:27 | ||
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fairviewfarmer![]() |
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you were my 2nd guess......:) | |||
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bpreuss![]() |
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MN | 1.5"-1.75" | ||
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denny-o![]() |
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Michigan - Saginaw County | Like most I shoot for 1.5" with the planter I get from 1" to 2" in going from near talcum powder to just this side of concrete - sometimes in the same field I did have some beans on top of the ground where we were loading. I've been kicking dirt over them - hope springs eternal. i have to do it quick or my boy growls at me. I uncovered a few beans today as we were putting down the Pre, to see how it is going 4 day old beans are digging their way towards the light already 3 day old beans have a smaller shoot and beginning to turn upwards 2 day old beans are just bursting out of the seed coat Who knows what the year will end like, but so far I'm hopeful | ||
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