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Itchy
Posted 5/21/2017 08:17 (#6028641)
Subject: soybean Planting depth


SW Iowa
1.5"-2"
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Lscholl
Posted 5/21/2017 08:27 (#6028672 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



East central Indiana
I did mine at 1.75 in no till with heavy residue in east central Indiana. May have been a little deep but some of the soil was very dry.



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John Smith
Posted 5/21/2017 08:27 (#6028673 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


South Central Illinois

What is the plan?
Insure 0% emergence?

10% on the soil surface, these are up already.

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Lscholl
Posted 5/21/2017 08:28 (#6028675 - in reply to #6028673)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



East central Indiana
Did I do too deep?
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Pvafarm
Posted 5/21/2017 08:32 (#6028681 - in reply to #6028672)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Southeast WI
Are you placing them at 1.75" or is the drill "set" at 1.75"? That's deep for beans but they can make it under good conditions. I had a corn row unit loose a depth handle last year and go as deep as possible. Still 75-80% of them came up but that was in 30" rows.
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John Smith
Posted 5/21/2017 08:33 (#6028683 - in reply to #6028675)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


South Central Illinois

90% of the time it will rain and bring up the shallow ones.

10% of the time those rains will arrive 5 weeks later.

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earnhart sil
Posted 5/21/2017 08:35 (#6028691 - in reply to #6028683)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



southern il.

around here this year a short finger nail depth has been about right, if they dont float off. I  usually plant first finger joint in good moisture.



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Lscholl
Posted 5/21/2017 08:39 (#6028701 - in reply to #6028681)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



East central Indiana
Drill set at 1.75 so with the debris on top I figure I was about 1.5 seeding depth. Plus I have 1/4 play in my seed boot.
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Rod!
Posted 5/21/2017 08:44 (#6028713 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



NW IL
Aim for 1" in 15" rows no till
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John Smith
Posted 5/21/2017 08:52 (#6028729 - in reply to #6028691)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


South Central Illinois

For me, if I can leave a few on top;
1/3 will be too shallow, will need a rain.
1/3 will be too deep, will not come up if it rains.
1/3 are just right, will come up with or with out a rain.

Drop 140,000; 10% will not germ, says so on the bag.
2/3 will come up, producing 84,000 healthy soybean plants.

Exactly what is needed for 99% of max yield.

Do not try this with naked seed.

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Andy578
Posted 5/21/2017 09:08 (#6028754 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Ontario
I aim for 2" but I'm also on light sand so it doesn't seem to make much difference. The clay spots we do have are very hard so I'm lucky if they even get covered there.
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michigancornfarmer
Posted 5/21/2017 09:19 (#6028778 - in reply to #6028673)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


one year it was very dry I planted 4 Into moisture they were up in a week
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Rockpile
Posted 5/21/2017 09:19 (#6028779 - in reply to #6028729)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Northwest Ohio
Surely you can do a better job of planting beans. I plant at 1.5 to 1.75 this time of year and they are essentially all in that range. All no-till with corn planter units on 15 inches. Can't imagine leaving beans on top. Looks like you're not anywhere from your profile. Maybe that explains all the beans left on top.
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Lscholl
Posted 5/21/2017 09:20 (#6028784 - in reply to #6028729)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



East central Indiana
Thanks for info. This is actually my second year planting so have a lot,to,learn. Hope I get lucky. Planted 180k seeds per acre
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Oliver1
Posted 5/21/2017 09:22 (#6028789 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



Alton, Ia
Take an inch off and you'll be fine.
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John Smith
Posted 5/21/2017 09:27 (#6028799 - in reply to #6028779)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


South Central Illinois

Here in Southern Illinois they will grow from the soil surface.

They are up already, those do not go deeper when it rains.

The deep ones just go deeper with a heavy rain.

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bleedred
Posted 5/21/2017 09:39 (#6028814 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



East Central Ia
We also shoot for 1.5-2"





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fourcubs
Posted 5/21/2017 09:48 (#6028829 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Interesting read we shoot for 1.25 with air drill. Very few on top 1" dirt over the top. 5 days in they are necking. Pissy weather makes me glad they are not deeper. The few on top are growing. 7.5" spacing new seed boots bonilla seed tabs with seed brakes. Like it so far except for a few plugged unnoticed rows. So 2 strips at 30" per 42.5'. we'll see our first year with the rig. Extremely heavy soil. 1/2 no-till.

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AGDEAL
Posted 5/21/2017 09:50 (#6028835 - in reply to #6028799)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Illinois
Using a drill?
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turdypointbuck
Posted 5/21/2017 10:03 (#6028868 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



NW Barton County Missouri
1/2 inch.
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earp
Posted 5/21/2017 10:05 (#6028869 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



Manila, Ar
1 inch from soil line to the top of the seed max.........what don't come up will come up after a rain......;)
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arthur
Posted 5/21/2017 10:10 (#6028880 - in reply to #6028869)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


northeast iowa
2" don't change it from corn to soybeans.
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johndeere430u
Posted 5/21/2017 10:35 (#6028930 - in reply to #6028880)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Central, mn
1"
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10kb
Posted 5/21/2017 11:46 (#6029037 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


SW MN
first knuckle.
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Lscholl
Posted 5/21/2017 12:27 (#6029095 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



East central Indiana
University of Nebraska study says 1.75
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Survivor
Posted 5/21/2017 12:27 (#6029096 - in reply to #6028930)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Moreauville LA
Never understood the questions on planting depth.

Don't you plant for it to come up? Not what some textbook says. Ive planted beans from where you could almost see them too 3-3.5" deep. Must be a HERE thing but I have seen more than once plant with the depth all the way back on beans to get to moisture.

I disagree on a set depth to get some up and others when it rains. That can be a cluster~~~~ if too much or not enough rain falls. Clay ground bean HERE will come up even if it takes a shovel to find them. In sand, if they struggle, you are screwed from the start.

If in doubt, plant deeper. Id rather lose a stand to them getting nailed by an unexpected rain than too shallow, stand and vigor loss from setting in the ground for three weeks(possibly at high daytime temps) waiting on a rain that may be too little or too much.

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fairviewfarmer
Posted 5/21/2017 12:34 (#6029114 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting.
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fairviewfarmer
Posted 5/21/2017 12:37 (#6029116 - in reply to #6029096)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


I planted mine an inch deep one year in what I thought was dry dirt. They all came up before it rained. I guess I didn't know what dry dirt was. :)

Edited by fairviewfarmer 5/29/2017 20:06
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illinidirtfarmer
Posted 5/21/2017 12:42 (#6029130 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


WC IL
Always at least 1.75". Have seen more stands fail from shallow planting than having them deeper.
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cyfarms
Posted 5/21/2017 13:03 (#6029172 - in reply to #6029114)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Northern Iowa

fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34

1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting.


Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member.

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John Smith
Posted 5/21/2017 13:09 (#6029182 - in reply to #6029096)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


South Central Illinois

Going to loose some of them no matter where it is set.
Better to have it set to loose a few from being too shallow and a few from too deep.
Then some are just right.

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Itchy
Posted 5/21/2017 13:11 (#6029187 - in reply to #6029130)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


SW Iowa
Same here. Had more trouble with them too shallow, not in good moisture, then too deep. The hypocotyl pulling the cotyledon upward has tremendous strength to push up against the biggest dirt clod or crust. I have seen them pop the cotyledon off in the process of pushing up to the surface in hard, crusted soil, resulting in death. They don't push without moisture and warmth. Same with corn. it needs warmth and moisture to push out.. Old timers say you cannot plant corn too deep...I have often wondered which pushes harder--corn or soybean. Perhaps the corn has more stamina to push longer than a soybean, that will give up after a few days.






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Lscholl
Posted 5/21/2017 13:15 (#6029191 - in reply to #6029114)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



East central Indiana
How much rain did u get?
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Lscholl
Posted 5/21/2017 13:16 (#6029193 - in reply to #6028814)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



East central Indiana
Thanks for this info. I notice that 2.5 inch depth out yielded 1 inch depth.

Edited by Lscholl 5/21/2017 14:07
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pupdaddy12003
Posted 5/21/2017 16:22 (#6029524 - in reply to #6028778)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



NW Central Ohio
...I've heard of people getting away with that...as long as they don't get surprised by a heavy shower that crusts!...I'm not brave enough though!!!...LOL!
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John Smith
Posted 5/21/2017 16:29 (#6029539 - in reply to #6029524)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


South Central Illinois

He only planted 4,

Must have been a germ test.

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Grhog
Posted 5/21/2017 17:55 (#6029693 - in reply to #6029187)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Se wisc.
1.25 here. Then rolling sets them .25 deeper. In dry years have beans swell, then dry out and die if planted shallower. Not the problem this year. Just cold wet soil.
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fairviewfarmer
Posted 5/21/2017 19:58 (#6029933 - in reply to #6029191)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


4 inches in 5 days
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fairviewfarmer
Posted 5/21/2017 19:59 (#6029936 - in reply to #6029172)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


cyfarms - 5/21/2017 13:03

fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34

1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting.


Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member.



what is your handle on CR ? ;)
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dmswil
Posted 5/21/2017 20:41 (#6030073 - in reply to #6029182)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth



mascoutah, IL
You must be planting some poor germ seed John. Remember just because the bag says 90% germ doesn't mean it can't be 99%. 90 is the limit for any beans I have ever planted. I can plant treated beans at 1.5 inches and get 95-100% of them up. This idea of having to see some beans on top is old school. With today's planters you shouldn't see any on top. Have planted some at 2+ before in extreme heat and been out of the ground in four days. This year so far I have been planting 1.25-1.5 depending on soil type but have good moisture.

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cyfarms
Posted 5/21/2017 20:44 (#6030081 - in reply to #6029936)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Northern Iowa
fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 19:59

cyfarms - 5/21/2017 13:03

fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34

1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting.


Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member.



what is your handle on CR ? ;)


I will give you 3 guesses.. I don't know you personally but am probably a bigger smartass than you on CR......probably in person too.
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Tank2516
Posted 5/21/2017 20:49 (#6030100 - in reply to #6030073)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


+1 10% on top of the ground is a waste of money. When planting anything you should try to get all seeds at a uniform depth so they all emerge at the same time or else the later emerging plants act as weeds. While this is more of a concern in corn it also happens with other crops such as soybeans.
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fairviewfarmer
Posted 5/22/2017 02:53 (#6030551 - in reply to #6030081)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


cyfarms - 5/21/2017 20:44

fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 19:59

cyfarms - 5/21/2017 13:03

fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34

1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting.


Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member.



what is your handle on CR ? ;)


I will give you 3 guesses.. I don't know you personally but am probably a bigger smartass than you on CR......probably in person too.

you must be "Cylent"....... :)
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wildcat1000
Posted 5/22/2017 03:26 (#6030554 - in reply to #6029187)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


C IL
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cyfarms
Posted 5/22/2017 08:03 (#6030822 - in reply to #6030551)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Northern Iowa
fairviewfarmer - 5/22/2017 02:53

cyfarms - 5/21/2017 20:44

fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 19:59

cyfarms - 5/21/2017 13:03

fairviewfarmer - 5/21/2017 12:34

1.25"-1.5 here. With the large amount of rain since then, its going to be interesting.


Should be enough hot air coming from you to pop them right out of the ground..........haha...... signed a fellow Cyclone Report member.



what is your handle on CR ? ;)


I will give you 3 guesses.. I don't know you personally but am probably a bigger smartass than you on CR......probably in person too.

you must be "Cylent"....... :)


cyclone_81
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4450
Posted 5/22/2017 08:16 (#6030845 - in reply to #6028869)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Nc Ks.
earp - 5/21/2017 09:05

1 inch from soil line to the top of the seed max.........what don't come up will come up after a rain......;)


+1

Maybe a here thing on my ground but too deep and a big rain and you are asking for problems. Had a row unit on a JD 750 not set as deep as the others last year. Had three weeks of dry weather after planting before first shower. That late emerging row showed until about the latter part of August but by harvest time couldn't tell it from the others.

Edited by 4450 5/22/2017 08:27
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fairviewfarmer
Posted 5/22/2017 08:18 (#6030852 - in reply to #6030822)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


you were my 2nd guess......:)
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bpreuss
Posted 5/22/2017 16:36 (#6031550 - in reply to #6028641)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


MN
1.5"-1.75"
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denny-o
Posted 5/22/2017 20:21 (#6031958 - in reply to #6031550)
Subject: RE: soybean Planting depth


Michigan - Saginaw County
Like most I shoot for 1.5" with the planter
I get from 1" to 2" in going from near talcum powder to just this side of concrete - sometimes in the same field
I did have some beans on top of the ground where we were loading. I've been kicking dirt over them - hope springs eternal. i have to do it quick or my boy growls at me.

I uncovered a few beans today as we were putting down the Pre, to see how it is going
4 day old beans are digging their way towards the light already
3 day old beans have a smaller shoot and beginning to turn upwards
2 day old beans are just bursting out of the seed coat
Who knows what the year will end like, but so far I'm hopeful
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