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buckmaster
Posted 5/2/2017 20:58 (#5996977)
Subject: Inside-out calf ?


ND
This is a first for me and hopefully my last.
This thing was born this morning, believe it or not she had it on her own.



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Big Swede
Posted 5/2/2017 21:01 (#5996988 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


SW So Dakota
I've never had one but my friend had 2 in one year. Very rare.
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buckmaster
Posted 5/2/2017 21:03 (#5996999 - in reply to #5996988)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


ND
Another genetic defect maybe but the neighbor had one last year and he raises registered simmental.
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arthur
Posted 5/2/2017 21:04 (#5997000 - in reply to #5996988)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


northeast iowa
I would not like to see that in the pasture kinda creepy
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ntexcotton
Posted 5/2/2017 21:09 (#5997013 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


North Central Texas
Older cow?
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DanofWI
Posted 5/2/2017 21:10 (#5997017 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


53590
I'll quote my father "The hundreds of thousands of calves dairy or beef born every day week month or year there has to be a few that don't work out" It is kind of crazy how few are born with "issues"
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1luddite
Posted 5/2/2017 21:14 (#5997025 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


Ontario's Middle East
I had one about 15 years ago. Very creepy indeed. Had a hiefer that wasn't making any progress so I investigated and held a beating heart in my hand. Called vet and did a c-section. The vet said it was her second in 15 years of practise.
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redrobin
Posted 5/2/2017 21:15 (#5997029 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


Shisto reflexus from eating pig weed
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buckmaster
Posted 5/2/2017 21:15 (#5997030 - in reply to #5997013)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


ND
2013 model

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MeadowlandsBeef
Posted 5/2/2017 21:38 (#5997098 - in reply to #5997029)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?



Northern Minnesota

redrobin - 5/2/2017 21:15 Shisto reflexus from eating pig weed


Never heard this.  My research says it's a genetic defect:  
https://www.icbf.com/wp/?page_id=4578
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ntexcotton
Posted 5/2/2017 21:46 (#5997114 - in reply to #5997030)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


North Central Texas
I think 99% of the time they are 5 or younger. Well the good part is your chances of seeing it again should be low and she is still alive.
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buckmaster
Posted 5/2/2017 21:55 (#5997146 - in reply to #5997114)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


ND
Wonder why in young cows coincidence.
She is alive doesn't feel to good though. If she is alive tomorrow she will get a calf to raise, we have a pen full of pail calves.

My favorite little helper !

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Lost Creek
Posted 5/2/2017 22:05 (#5997168 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


NE MO
Had one just like that 2 years ago... unfortunately had to pull it and the cow went down and never did make it back up...13 year old cow and I thought might have had something to do with it... ??? don't know.
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ccjersey
Posted 5/2/2017 22:20 (#5997204 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


Faunsdale, AL
I doubt the claim that it is genetic or at least that it is a heritable genetic condition.

Many heritable conditions are rare except among populations of related individuals that carry the genes. Schistosomas reflexus is rare in every population but is still seen in every breed and crossbred cattle as well.

The basic defect is the body wall does not close along the ventral midline. As far as the claim that it will be a younger cow that has one, a lot more younger cows have calves than old ones, so that should skew the results a little!
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ntexcotton
Posted 5/2/2017 22:50 (#5997254 - in reply to #5997204)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


North Central Texas
Very true on all your statements. I expect that many of the births that are actually seen are dairy reducing the age.
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Dave EOh
Posted 5/3/2017 04:46 (#5997366 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


Eastern Ohio
Neighbor had one last week
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elm@tree
Posted 5/3/2017 05:32 (#5997387 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


I had one 4 yrs ago from a 11 yr old cow. Vet had to cut it up inside ,He said very rare for beef breeds but more common in Holsteins. He also said it is nothing she ate & is not genetic, just an accident of nature.
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redrobin
Posted 5/3/2017 06:54 (#5997505 - in reply to #5997098)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


MeadowlandsBeef - 5/2/2017 21:38

redrobin - 5/2/2017 21:15 Shisto reflexus from eating pig weed


Never heard this.  My research says it's a genetic defect:  
https://www.icbf.com/wp/?page_id=4578
ive not done any "research". My dvm tiold me that when dad had one 20-30 years ago. He could have been wrong, I could be remembering wrong, or "science" could have changed on 25 years. Just what I remember.
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cvforsberg
Posted 5/3/2017 07:42 (#5997626 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


Dunnell Minnesota
Looks like it was born butt first ?
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H farmall
Posted 5/3/2017 07:48 (#5997645 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


mn
I had the identical looking calf this year also. Every thing is the same as you describe except my cow never missed a beat. Its just crazy how exact that picture is compared to mine.
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James_ncKS
Posted 5/3/2017 08:11 (#5997707 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?



Northcentral Kansas
I had my first one this year. Looked exactly like yours. Reached in a felt 4 legs and one head. Vet had to do a C section. My vet has been around for along time and he had only seen one other.
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centralmnangus
Posted 5/3/2017 14:54 (#5998397 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?


Ft. Ripley MN
We had one last year, had to pull it out. The cow was fine. Brought it to the vets and they had no reasoning behind why it happens. It's the weirdest thing to see one.
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matterhan
Posted 5/3/2017 18:22 (#5998664 - in reply to #5996977)
Subject: RE: Inside-out calf ?



Mount Upton NY
schistosomus reflexus

I have had 2. Both were C section to deliver
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