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Kansas | Good machine? Leave it alone? Says it has a 4 cylinder diesel. Would that be a case engine? Anything to especially look for? 3300 hours on it. What's about to go kaput that is going to cost big bucks to repair?
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Straight 1845's and b's were case engines. The 1845 C's had the little 4 cylinder Cummins. They were one heck of a skidsteer. On a straight 1845, the axles were weak point, other than that pretty good. The 1845 C's were just good all around machines. |
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Kansas | Just looked again and all it says on the side is 1845. No lettering to follow and none given in the description. Says its a 92 model.
About the axles........they'd take the splines out or bearings or what exactly happend? Hard job to fix or just time consuming? I take it they couldn't handle any abuse then?
Po do you know what the lift rating is on that machine and how much the machine weighed? I am wanting to know to compare to what the guy tells me when he emails back.
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Boone, Iowa | I bought an 1845 with the Case 4 cyl diesel engine from the neighbor several years ago. I bought it as a project, since something was wrong with the engine. Ended up, it had dropped a valve. I completely rebuilt the engine and exchanged the head with a rebuilt head from Midwest Cylinder Head in Nevada, IA. Talking to the guys at Midwest, the origional heads came with 2 piece valves and seem to be a problem. The rebuilt head comes with one piece valves and they have not had problems with the replacement valves. The engine has performed flawlessly, since the overhaul. There is a lovejoy coupler between the engine and hydro unit that can wear out, but not a big deal to replace. Usually when these go out, you are far from the shop and knee deep in mud or out in the cattle lot. We did have a RH drive chain break on us moving some white rock in the driveway. I blame that on the oil bath for the chain had some condensation in the oil and could have been starting to freeze up, since it was cold out. We replaced chains on both and installed new oil and fixed that problem. If you keep twine away from them, your hub seals should last a long time. I have thought about upgrading to an 1845 C, only to get something newer, but I believe the C series would have the universal attatchment mount for the buckets, post hole augers, etc. |
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Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND | Rich - 11/3/2008 21:40
Good machine? Leave it alone? Says it has a 4 cylinder diesel. Would that be a case engine? Anything to especially look for? 3300 hours on it. What's about to go kaput that is going to cost big bucks to repair?
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The engine may be a case 188D, same as what we have in a 1740 uniloader. Good running engine, but one of the dirtiest diesel exhausts I have ever had to deal with. It will kill you indoors, it's an outdoor machine only. |
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Kansas | Seems now since you said that Jon it does have the words "uniloader" across the side of the top of the cab cage. |
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Field Queen Inc. | We had two of them up at the farm Rich
My only bitch is they always seemed to me they were hard to work on.... motorwise.
Engine compartment was kindof small and if you needed in there for anything you might as well pull the radiator. We seemed to have trouble with the hydraulic pumps.... vibrate loose on the mounting bolts and flop around and wear the spines out on the shaft before you knew it.
Powerful little loader for its size though
Good luck
Tyler
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| Bought mine used and so far it has been a very good and dependable unit. Can be a little cramped changing one of the hyd.filters under the seat and it's usually just easier to drop the belly pan to change the engine oil filter and drain the oil. Mine has the Case 4 cyl diesel. At the time I probably would have looked at a JD or NH as a first choice but this one was just way too good of a deal to pass up. I actually prefer the all hand controls now instead of the pedals. Only 2 things it lacks that I would like to change is it has no auxiliary hydraulics and still has the old style bucket attachment system and not the newer quick tach bucket. You also cannot see the cutting edge from the seat due to the high back bucket. That is not a big deal as you get a feel for where the cutting edge is at after awhile. I think owners manual rates lift at 1700#'s I have one solid weight mounted below radiator door but at times wish there was a little more however I believe I have a larger than normal bucket. It's a great machine for moving and stacking snow and is just plain useful for almost everything.
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Boone, Iowa | The best money I spent of this machine, after getting it back together, was a toothbar for the bucket. |
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| Not a really big cab on them, and from what I have heard, Rich you are not a small guy, it gets a little frustrating getting in and out of it... |
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Leesburg, Ohio | Have had two of them over the last 20 years. First was an early 1845 (about a 1983 model year) bought at an auction of a large egg producer. Underbelly was packed full of feathers, chicken manure, eggs, dead chickens, you name it. Clean it up, rebuilt axle bearings, painted it, and ran it for several years very reliably. Rebuilt the axles again before selling it.
Second was an 1845C (about a 1994 model year) bought from a contractor. Broke one axle flange completely off (don't know exactly how...had a hired man running it at the time that was a bit hard on equipment). Still have the machine. Been having trouble starting it...the starter won't kick over when thurning the key. Just put a new keyswitch, battery, starter, and cables on it. Still having same trouble. Jump it, and it starts right up, no hesitation at all. Other that that, it's been a good machine. Easy to get in and out, compared to our Deere. Will lift about 30 bags of seed corn on a pallet (about 1500 lbs on a set of pallet forks, more than that in a bucket). I bleed green, but would really rather run the Case loader than the deere, except when it's hot or cold out (the deere has a cab and ac). No engine issues in either model...one was a case engine, I think this one is a cummins. No hydro issues so far. Keep the chain cases drained and good oil in them, and twine off the axles, and should last a long time. |
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Kansas | What I'm hearing from you and Von this machine is hard pressed to lift a ton then? That is to small for what I'm wanting. I was wanting one to put forks on and dual use as a forklift now and again.
The guy I emailed that has it says he picked up and moved a 4500 lb pickup with it. I take it I'm getting fed a spoonful of manure?
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Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND | Rich - 11/4/2008 11:10
I was wanting one to put forks on and dual use as a forklift now and again.
Rich, a skid loader will almost work as a forklift, but the wheelbase is too short so they bounce the load a lot and tend fall over on their nose with even a light load on the forklift tines. The uniloader forklift kit had another caster wheel sticking out the rear and a huge rear counterweight.
The guy I emailed that has it says he picked up and moved a 4500 lb pickup with it. I take it I'm getting fed a spoonful of manure?
Pushed it yes, picked up and moved ? depends on how many pieces the pickup was in. LOL.
Glad you guys told me all this. Thanks alot. I truly appreciate it. |
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Kansas | Thanks Jon
It's main purpose wouldn't be forklift work. I just would like to have that similar option though when needed. I mainly need it for small lot (creep feed pen) cleaning and barn and then dirt work projects.
I have been told several times that once a guy gets one you find all sorts of uses for them and they are one of the handiest tools to have on a farm.
I don't think I can justify a forklift no more than I'd do with it but at the same time I'd like to be able to move some pallets of salt and mineral and also shuttles of chemical.
Being tight place to work on and uncomfy for a big guy to sit in and no peddle controls is really shying me away from it. Those gosh dang bobcats and deeres are so high priced though. |
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Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND | I get what your saying Rich. I just wanted to make you aware that my old 1740, which I suspect is about the same size / capacity as the 1845, will nose over with more than 600# on the forklift tines. The Case uniloader forklift kit was a rear weight so heavy that it would stand the skid loader on it's rear by weight alone if not for that add on rear caster wheel.
I have run both Bobcat with foot controls and Case uniloaders with hand controls, I find the hand controls much quicker and easier to operate. The uniloader has a foot control for the grab fork, which I always found to be a PITA to operate. The Bobcat is a more reliable machine. Both have so much machinery compacted in so small a space that they are hard for a skinny young guy to repair and darn near impossible for a fat old guy.
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| Here are the specs out of the owners manual. It shows lift capacity to full height at 3120lbs they included the weight of the bucket into that amount. The rated lift capacity is 1700# Might be able to do more with forks as you can get the load a little closer to machine not out on the end of the bucket. Can't comment on that as I don't have forks for mine but wish I did. I have done a fair amount of loading of dirt and rocks into my old dump truck and you had better be darn careful with a full bucket of dirt getting up and over the rear tailgate on the truck. The short wheel base makes it sort of unstable if your turning. with a load up in the air. I normally back up to the pile with the truck so I can get a bucket full, back away from the pile and then angle slightly to the side and straight to the back of the truck doing as little turning as possible I fill the truck from the rear and my bucket just fits inside the bed. when it gets full at the back I am able to use the skidloader bucket and push it to the front of the truck. I'm able to get a pretty good heaped up load on the truck this way but I can't quite get enough reach and be stable to load over the sideboards. Once you get used to hand controls I don't think you would want to go to pedals. The guy might have picked up one end of the pu truck and pushed the other end that was on wheels but I don't know if I buy that he picked the whole thing up unless he was talking about one of those tiny little mini trucks. Sorry the specs are so large but I linked them from image event at full size so that you could read them all. Here are the spec. pages 
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SW KS, near Dodge City | We've got a 763 Bobcat that is comparable in size/lift of the 1845. The 1845 might actually be a tad bit bigger than the 763, but I've never seen the spec sheet on it. The 763 won't lift a full shuttle of chemical... or several other things that would definitely be more suited to a forklift. But, I don't have the money to have both, so I make do. If we were to do it over again, I'd get a bigger skidder so it would lift the chem shuttles and other things.
I ran an 1845C at my job in college, and I personally prefer the foot controls of the Bobcat over the hand controls of the case. But that's just my uncoordinated opinion.
Edit: The place I worked also had the XT series of skidders. I think it was an 85 or 90 XT, and man that thing was a hoss.
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Would like commentary on 1845 Case Skidsteer.
