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agcoeric
Posted 4/5/2017 21:19 (#5947319)
Subject: Challenger 95e


Anybody turn up the horsepower in a 95e? If so what's a safe ?
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illinifarmer1
Posted 4/5/2017 21:33 (#5947366 - in reply to #5947319)
Subject: RE: Challenger 95e


Illinois
They are pretty much at their limit. The drivetrain is the same from a 65 through the 95 series. The drivetrains in the 95 are noted to fail prematurely compared to the lesser horsepower models.

Edited by illinifarmer1 4/5/2017 21:36
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Bigboyfloyd
Posted 4/6/2017 06:51 (#5947729 - in reply to #5947319)
Subject: RE: Challenger 95e


SW Michigan
Back in the day when they were new, our Cat dealer sold a 95e to some guys with a big plow, 12-18's I think or bigger. Anyway they didn't like it cause it wouldn't pull it like they wanted, the dealer reprogramed it to think it was now a semi truck and then cranked it up. What a difference, thing pulled like a fright train, run cooler. Now they were happy. However, Cat got word at what they'd done and sent the dealer word to reverse action immediately citing emissions regulations whatever. Long story short, they ended up not buying the tractor cause they were not happy. But obviously that tractor could of been turned up and run like a horse. Also, we went on a group Cat tour/trip one time and had dinner with tractor engineers (which was really cool I thought) and they said the E series tractors had many of the same rearend components as the D8 dozer. And were almost bulletproof. So I'm saying the potential is their for what you want to do, weather you should or shouldn't turn it up, I don't know.
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illinifarmer1
Posted 4/6/2017 08:03 (#5947912 - in reply to #5947729)
Subject: RE: Challenger 95e


Illinois
One of the weak points in the drivetrain on those models is the pinion gear and bearing in the final drive. The differential / steering / and final drives all share the same oil. The pinion gear or pinion bearing goes out and it takes the whole rear end finals with it. If you don't mind removing the track, pulling the final drive housing off and replacing the pinion gear and bearing every couple of years you can probably get by cranking a few more ponies out of it. Local dealer stated that the series was originally designed as the model 65 /75 and was engineered to last 15,000 hours without major failure. Then they planted a larger engine in the frame with the model 85 and 95 and drive train reliability was reduced.
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vcshop
Posted 4/6/2017 09:00 (#5948039 - in reply to #5947912)
Subject: RE: Challenger 95e


Is not the bearing on the input shaft ,Why take of the track I have changed mine. If the input shaft seal leaks check the bearing
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OldIron42
Posted 4/6/2017 12:27 (#5948485 - in reply to #5947912)
Subject: RE: Challenger 95e


SW MN
I concur with your comments regarding the pinion gear. Seem to remember that Cat did some type of exotic heat treatment and polishing to the pinion gear teeth to stretch the life as much as they could without having to redesign the final drives for the 95E. On the other hand, if your engine is making power (ie: no bad injectors, etc.), you really shouldn't need to crank it up, since it is supposed to produce about 435 HP (with power growth), and max ballast is 41000 lbs., calculating to 94 lb/hp, which is about perfect. In reality, these machines were barely able to hit max ballast unless it was equipped with PTO and all the ballast weight packages. If it seems like it needs more power, I suspect the engine has some type of issue.
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bootsbowen
Posted 4/6/2017 15:09 (#5948744 - in reply to #5947319)
Subject: RE: Challenger 95e


Gibson City Il
As stated above in a heavy draft situation the limiting factor on a 95E is the weight of the machine. They do not have enough weight to hold all the power as it is when you are pushing them to the limit stock. More power will only make that worse. Yes the finals are the weak link with them but, from personal experience they are as close to bullet proof as you can get when you perform regular buy the book maintance and keep an eye on oil condition in the finals. Great machine for the money all the way around.
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sand85
Posted 10/20/2019 18:00 (#7800373 - in reply to #5948485)
Subject: RE: Challenger 95e


C IL
Bookmark.
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Shimmy1
Posted 8/14/2022 12:42 (#9796174 - in reply to #7800373)
Subject: RE: Challenger 95e



Central ND
Anyone looking to upgrade and has a 95E for sale?
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