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dmax2001
Posted 3/10/2017 19:54 (#5890969)
Subject: Deere aneroid


Lawton MI
I hear a lot about adjusting the aneroid on 30 series fuel pumps to give them more low end grunt. What needs to be done and are there drawbacks.
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dieselfume1
Posted 3/10/2017 21:23 (#5891163 - in reply to #5890969)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


SE MT
dmax2001 - 3/10/2017 19:54

I hear a lot about adjusting the aneroid on 30 series fuel pumps to give them more low end grunt. What needs to be done and are there drawbacks.


On the later 30 series pumps that had a vacuum aneroid on them you can thread out the hex head plug on the back of the aneroid (rear of the pump) and look inside the hole. you'll see a star wheel that you need to turn down with a flat screwdriver (clockwise as I remember). It'll take a couple turns at least. if you go too far, it'll just smoke more. I found a happy medium where it smokes lightly on the low end, but as rpms pickup to around 1400 it really livens up and gets full fuel.

I talked with a highly recommended diesel shop that I buy pump parts through down in North Platte about this, and he actually recommended removing the aneroid off the top of the pump, then removing the rod between it and the rack, and re-installing the aneroid. this will delete it completely. I tried this, and it REALLY rolls the coal at any rpm. He told me he had no concerns about it sooting up the rings at all and has done this on many pumps. It was a little too much smoke for me, so I put the rod back in and adjusted the aneroid down to where I felt comfortable I was getting maximum low end power without clouds of smoke.

I know some of the earlier 30 series had mechanical air fuel ratio controls on them and I have no idea on how to adjust them.
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Rayl
Posted 3/10/2017 21:40 (#5891195 - in reply to #5890969)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


Saline County, Mo
I screwed the one all the way down on my 4640 and noticed nothing
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4020nuts
Posted 3/10/2017 22:04 (#5891241 - in reply to #5891163)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


Central Texas
Anybody got a picture of the aneroid?
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dieselfume1
Posted 3/10/2017 22:19 (#5891256 - in reply to #5891241)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


SE MT
Might be able to go snap one in a bit
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dieselfume1
Posted 3/10/2017 22:51 (#5891301 - in reply to #5891241)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


SE MT
4020nuts - 3/10/2017 22:04

Anybody got a picture of the aneroid?

Here's a pic from the tech manual. Adjust after removing the hex plug on back of aneroid.


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PETERSON PERFORMANCE
Posted 3/10/2017 23:34 (#5891334 - in reply to #5891195)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid



SESD
Get rid of it. Period.
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thefarmers
Posted 3/11/2017 05:24 (#5891423 - in reply to #5891195)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


Maybe someone did the delete on it already? Does it roll smoke?
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eight
Posted 3/11/2017 06:42 (#5891479 - in reply to #5891301)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


South Texas
In that picture, what does the screw under the cap on top of the aneroid do?
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Rayl
Posted 3/11/2017 06:46 (#5891487 - in reply to #5891423)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


Saline County, Mo
Not a lot.
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ronm
Posted 3/11/2017 07:36 (#5891592 - in reply to #5891479)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


Fruita CO

The screw on top adjusts how much the aneroid restricts the fuel. The star wheel adjusts the pressure at which it kicks in. Really all you need to do is screw the top screw down as far as it it will go, or as far as it takes to make the sky as dark as you want it...don't have to mess with the star wheel.
The aneroid is nothing but an emission control device.
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Bern
Posted 3/11/2017 08:37 (#5891744 - in reply to #5890969)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid


Mount Vernon, WA
Unless you like to roll coal like some 18 year old, I'd leave it be.
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roush9799
Posted 3/11/2017 10:04 (#5891950 - in reply to #5890969)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid



West Central IL
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Indianajones
Posted 3/13/2017 18:51 (#5897209 - in reply to #5891950)
Subject: RE: Deere aneroid



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ronm
Posted 3/14/2017 09:57 (#5898549 - in reply to #5890969)
Subject: A couple things you can do...


Fruita CO
Has to be done on a test stand, but a good pump guy can tighten up the regulation on the governor. Makes it open up a little quicker when a load comes on. That always seemed to help 4630's, which were the worst about no low-end. The other is to use a 40 series turbo, they make a little more boost at lower RPM. This has pretty much been taken care of by the aftermarket, I think. They mostly sell the same turbo for all 30-40 series now.
Another thing that can be done on early pumps is to remove the magnet in the rack plug...doesn't have anything to do with power or torque, but it eliminates the 1200 RPM sparrow-gassing tar-flavored run-up when it starts. Starts more like a 50 series, the excess fuel kicks out as soon as it starts.
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