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NW Iowa | I am looking for a different field cultivator this spring and wondering what the major differences are between DMI Case Ih and New Holland. The reason I'm looking at these 3 brands is my uncle has a new holland st250 with rolling baskets and i really like the job it does. What models would be similar to the st250, is it the same as a tigermate II. Which Case IH model would be similar 4300, 4800, 4900. Most of these models I can find in my price range but they don't have rolling baskets. I know the easy answer is buy a st250 but they are a little out of my price range for the width i want. My thought would be buy a tigermate II or a case IH and add rolling baskets to it and hopefully do the same job as my uncles. I would like to be able to run in bean stubble that has only had NH3 applied in the spring with no other tillage pass. |
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Central Wi | We pull a 4800 but I think it would cost more than its worth to add baskets. Also read frame isn't strong enough. We pull a Dmi crumbler but it is kind of a pain. I can usually get it raised up before packing with mud. Dad on the other hand usually packs it full. He likes to dig it out by hand. I take it out and make a pass on the road. Makes a mess. Not sure if I'd like the basket mounted in our dirt some places. |
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SW IL | They are all the same....the CIH one is a 200 |
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Mid-Michigan | I have a tiger mate II. It is a case ih. It's a very good field cultivator. Does a good job and goes in the ground. 3 bar harrow and mounted basket.
Edited by AGB 2/20/2017 21:03
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| we've been happy with the DMI we ran one with a rolling basket and one with the 4 bar harrow. The one with the rolling basket does a beautiful job!! But we replant more acres that were done with the basket..... there's lots of variables there but that seems to be the one common one jaycox in worthington has 47' DMI in nice shape with not many acres through it im talking tigermate II
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Coles County, Illinois | If you get a DMI make sure it's a TM II. The original Tigermates will have wing frame twist and lift axle problems with the weight of a reel back there. (as per DMI engineer) |
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NC IL I80@68 | Run a Case IH Tigermate same as DMI TII or Case IH 200 as mentioned all the same , have Remlinger 5 bar spike harrow behind does a nice job . Once over chiseled stalks or bean stubble and plant . From what I've seen and heard the 5 bar spike levels better but the 3 bar and basket makes it finer and also costs more .
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SW MN | 4300, 4800 and 4900 are the older original international diggers. The dmi has heavier spring pressure and shanks set up so digger doesn't dog track. The New Holland and DMI and case ih 200 are the same digger different stickers |
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So. IL | Had a tiger 2, wore it out then traded for a caseih 200 back in 11 or 12. The 200 is the only one that was the same as the tiger 2, and we run one pass after the anhydrous applicator and plant. If your new to this fc, make sure the shanks are not thin at the shovel, the lift rock shaft is not twisted, won't lift level, and the walking tandem bearings will give problems with lots of acres on it. |
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NW Iowa | So I should be looking for a tm II either case or dmi, or case 200. Is the frame of a tm II built heavy enough to add a rolling basket if I can't find one with them. Or since some have them they all can handle them. |
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Minnesota | The 4800,4300 etc. are NOT the same as the DMI Tigermate design. Look at old Case IH design vs. the DMI design and you'll see the difference.
Tigermate II was a DMI designed machine. When Case IH purchased DMI, they were available in DMI blue or Case IH red for a few years. You could also buy them painted New Holland blue. The Case IH TM200 is an updated design of the TMII. The 200 has a few improvements vs. the II, but if you're on a budget, the TMII is an excellent design. I don't think that the frame is different on a TMII vs. TM200.
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Coles County, Illinois | TM II are good to go with a reel in fact it was a factory option. |
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So. IL | pitpumper9270 - 2/20/2017 22:01
So I should be looking for a tm II either case or dmi, or case 200. Is the frame of a tm II built heavy enough to add a rolling basket if I can't find one with them. Or since some have them they all can handle them.
You are looking in the right direction, and yes it will handle a rolling basket just fine. Our 200 has a five bar spike on it and we pull a unverferth rolling harrow, like this setup the best.
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| Chris has it right. We've owned a 2 blue DMI TM 2s, a red CIH TM 2, and the NH version of the TM 2. All were the same machine, j u st different decals. The CIH 200 is the updated version. The earler IH, CIH you mentioned were completely different machines and while decent fcs they aren't the machines the later ones are.
our red TM 2 had a 3 bar dpike harrow/ rolling basket. Did a good job but if you had to work the ground a 2nd t ime it left it too powderey and would crust if rained on. All the others have had 5 bar spike harrows. May be more expensive but I would by one wit a harrow & a pull type rolling basket. Thay way you can unhook the baskets when not needed. JM2€
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Emington IL | chris dds - 2/20/2017 22:23
The 4800,4300 etc. are NOT the same as the DMI Tigermate design. Look at old Case IH design vs. the DMI design and you'll see the difference. .
If I'm not mistaken, the 4300 and 4800 series had their shovels on 7 inch spacings while the TMII will be on 6 inch spacings. It's not as easy to level behind the 7 inch spacings.
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Bothwell ont | How would a st250 and a flexi coil packer work in sand and clay with a 4 bar harrow on cultivater |
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NW Iowa | Thanks for the replies everyone. Definitely cleared up my confusion on the 3 brands. I've wondered if we would like a 4 or 5 row spike tooth instead of baskets but I'll have to see what dad thinks of that idea. I can see where the baskets can cause crusting issues but maybe it's not as big of deal as we think. Usually in this area if rotary hoes are running every one is running no mater what finish tool they use. Last year a neighbor hoed notill beans. It was a crappy spring. |
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Field Cultivator differences. DMI, Case IH, New Holland
