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sioux54
Posted 2/12/2017 18:00 (#5835214)
Subject: Strip Till in 22" rows


I know there has been discussion about this before, but I have not seen a recent post about it in quite some time. Do any of you strip till in 22" rows? Do you know of any manufactures who have 22" strip till units?
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jdh1456
Posted 2/12/2017 18:43 (#5835349 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Soil warrior
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blaze88
Posted 2/12/2017 19:22 (#5835499 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Parshall, ND
Wako makes a 22" strip till rig
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Big Ben
Posted 2/12/2017 19:47 (#5835570 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA
I have seen an Unverferth narrowed down to strip till 22" rows.

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scoob
Posted 2/12/2017 19:59 (#5835626 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Minnesota
This spring will be our 2nd year strip tilling on 22"rows with a soil warrior

Edited by scoob 2/12/2017 20:00
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hes_33
Posted 2/12/2017 20:31 (#5835750 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows



Byron, WY
Schlagel and Orthman
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mudracer
Posted 2/12/2017 20:38 (#5835775 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


south east north Dakota
Strip cat, Yetter, Niffty Ag.
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Roughrider Farms
Posted 2/12/2017 21:05 (#5835859 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


SC MN
Soil warrior
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Evil asian
Posted 2/12/2017 21:45 (#5835968 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


We use a SLY Strip cat ll, this will be our third season
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Boone & Crockett
Posted 2/13/2017 06:07 (#5836248 - in reply to #5835968)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


It's simply a matter of having Moorebuilt build the bar to your specs. Then hang your favorite unit on it.
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GOOSEPILOT
Posted 2/13/2017 07:47 (#5836392 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


WC Mn/Dakotas
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ILCORNGROWER
Posted 2/13/2017 08:19 (#5836462 - in reply to #5836392)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Northern Illinois
Not too sound like a d@#$ this is a serious question that I have pondered.... If you go to 22 inch strip till and have an 8 inch wide berm might you as well do full broad acre tillage/or straight no till? I am just asking. We are 30 inch rows and I really want to go to strip till, and have contemplated 20 inch row corn but keep going back to feeling like I might as well do tillage or straight no till if getting that narrow?

EDIT: Obviously the benefit to banded fertility I understand....

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scoob
Posted 2/13/2017 09:06 (#5836541 - in reply to #5836462)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Minnesota
I think 30" striptill would be a lot easier and more forgiving for trash reasons. We are 22" for sugarbeets
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GOOSEPILOT
Posted 2/13/2017 10:58 (#5836691 - in reply to #5836541)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


WC Mn/Dakotas
I grew up with beets, so have alot of 22" but also alot of 30", with a couple 20" growers all on conventional tillage. Striptill seems very interesting. Im guessing 22 vs 30 in the crop residue subject is considerably more challenging. But if you are successful in doing so on 22, wouldn't you get all the same benefits from strip till as on 30? As opposed to giving up and doing conventional or no till.
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scoob
Posted 2/13/2017 11:46 (#5836779 - in reply to #5836691)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Minnesota
Yes I would agree with you.
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NDFARMER95
Posted 2/13/2017 12:21 (#5836852 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


ND
Going into second year on strips in 20s. Only cutting bean stubble, would like to try some corn stalks for beans or coc. Probably stagger my units to help with trash flow for this upcoming fall. 30s would be a lot simpler, but we've had good luck on 20" corn and beans and have no plans of changing. As said above, buy a toolbar, hang your choice of units on it, and feed it with a montag. Best bang for your buck.



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sioux54
Posted 2/13/2017 12:31 (#5836878 - in reply to #5836462)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


We raise sugarbeets which is why we wish to stay at 22". Currently we do broadcast VRT our fertilizer and we ridge till our seed bed for beets usually following spring wheat. Our ground is very flat and can be very susceptible to blowing in the spring without the protection of cover crop or the previous crop stove. Corn is quickly replacing spring wheat production in our area and we need to find a way to handle the residue while not giving up yield for a proceeding row crop. To me, strip tilling is a no brainer if we can implement it effectively in 22" rows. A few people in our area have dabbled with it in experiments, but no one that I'm aware has implemented it in their operation.
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sioux54
Posted 2/13/2017 12:33 (#5836882 - in reply to #5836852)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


That looks really good, thanks for sharing!
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scoob
Posted 2/13/2017 12:46 (#5836907 - in reply to #5836878)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Minnesota
In corn stalks we are running a salford after the combine and a JD non chopping with calmer chopper rolls which was s huge improvement this year handling the trash issue
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scoob
Posted 2/13/2017 13:04 (#5836934 - in reply to #5836907)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Minnesota
This field was around the 230bpa stripped in the fall with the twin coulter on the warrior with salford behind combine. Pic taken today



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GOOSEPILOT
Posted 2/13/2017 20:55 (#5837981 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


WC Mn/Dakotas
On a cart note and for our 160-320 acre fields, a modified JD1910 is hard to beat. Poly tank, put a ss meter housing and have lil hoss do a hydraulic drive conversion. Accuracy and capacity for $50-60k cart.
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NDFARMER95
Posted 2/13/2017 21:03 (#5838007 - in reply to #5837981)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


ND
What are you using for a tire setup going between 20 or 22" rows on the 1910 cart?
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starbuck
Posted 2/13/2017 21:09 (#5838027 - in reply to #5836878)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Idaho
Going on 8 yrs strip till 22" rows for sugarbeets in irrigated grain stubble with Schlegel machine over thousands of acres , may I ask what still needs to be proven about the practice?

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ndsu84
Posted 2/13/2017 22:21 (#5838201 - in reply to #5838027)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


EC North Dakota
starbuck - 2/13/2017 21:09

Going on 8 yrs strip till 22" rows for sugarbeets in irrigated grain stubble with Schlegel machine over thousands of acres , may I ask what still needs to be proven about the practice?


Will it work somewhat foolproof with 240 bu. corn rotating with beans, beets, or corn on corn? And pay for the additional machinery? How large of a machine and tractor can you afford to put together and how many acres can I actually get over?
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Evil asian
Posted 2/14/2017 05:48 (#5838373 - in reply to #5838027)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Starbuck

I see you are in Idaho also, where at and what do you follow in your program?
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GOOSEPILOT
Posted 2/14/2017 08:00 (#5838647 - in reply to #5835214)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


WC Mn/Dakotas
Hardest part for rrv farmers is changing the mindset that you dont have to work the ground 17 times a year. Lol
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ILCORNGROWER
Posted 2/14/2017 11:18 (#5839048 - in reply to #5838027)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Northern Illinois
I don't think anything needs to be proven. I really like strip till. I just think everybody is in a different geography and crop rotation. I want to know if narrow row strip till works on contours and 230+ corn residue? I have seen 30 inch work.
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starbuck
Posted 2/15/2017 19:40 (#5842510 - in reply to #5838201)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Idaho
Corn around here is mostly chopped, or if grain corn residue, it is raked and baled . I don't grow corn so that's my observation. Dave at Schlegel inc could tell you though. I always follow irrigated small grains stubble 100 to 100 plus bu both wheat and barley.
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starbuck
Posted 2/15/2017 19:46 (#5842538 - in reply to #5838373)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Idaho
I'm in southern Idaho always follow small grains going into sugar beets. I do not bale nor harrow the stubble but do use chaff spreaders and straw choppers on combines and always keep machine in motion , if you leave a pile go pick it up and run it though again . Think ahead.
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starbuck
Posted 2/15/2017 19:53 (#5842565 - in reply to #5839048)
Subject: RE: Strip Till in 22" rows


Idaho
Never ran in corn ,that said I have ran in 140 bu barley straw with a pretty good undergrowth of volunteer. I find spring stripping and letting the winter weather the residue can be your friend also.
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