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Driftless SW Wisconsin | If you breed a Holstein cow and Angus bull, what sort of color do you get? Can it be visually confused with an Angus/Hereford BWF cross? I see some mostly black calves on the Bloomington sale video with more of a white brockle face, not the pure whiteface I usually associate with Angus/Hereford cross. |
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Badger State | Solid black. |
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Central, PA | Most always black. Maybe a fleck of white around the navel, but not much else |
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sw mb. | Google Hays Converter. Hereford, Holstein and Brown Swiss |
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| Yep
Nurse cow I use to have - solid black calves, always did just as good as beef calves if I didn't stick to many on her
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NS Canada | Yes, a little taller, leaner & solid black.
I get some calves like this off tan cows and black sim bulls. I also have similar calves off solid red cows, red roan short horns, tan white face.. etc So its hard to know what they could be.
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swmn | I hit a 650 pound Holstein angus-cross one night with the truck doing 65 miles an hour had a white stripe on its belly about 18 inches long was the only white on it |
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| They are black. I have 3 of them and will get a pic when I do chores this afternoon. They do look like a shorter version of a Holstein but, to me at least, look shorter and stockier like the angus... |
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Driftless SW Wisconsin | Is this why I see some blacks selling so much lower than others? Would these show up at an "all beef" feeder sale? |
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Badger State | They sure are not made of PORK!
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Driftless SW Wisconsin | Seems to me that "all beef" means 100% beef breed, not 50% beef/50% dairy. |
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SW WI | I have a few bull calves like this from neighbors bull getting in pasture last year. take them as steers to dairy or beef sale? Worth more than a straight Holstein? First cross calves I've ever had nice calves |
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Badger State | It was a joke Jim.
You don't know what they are but they are not "all holstein" either. So you take them to the sale where you think you get the most money. |
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Driftless SW Wisconsin | Seems like 50% vs 100% might feed out quite differently. |
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Badger State | You don't even know what they are let alone 50 60 70 100% of anything. Maybe they are just junk beef cattle? |
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SC North Dakota | The buyers around here can usually pick out the Holstein influence and you get knocked pretty good on price. |
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Trenton, Missouri | My uncle used to always say"black hide hides a multitude of sins". I have heard several people say there is some Holstein in most of the modern black angus. |
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| From then on you'll know what sale to take them to. |
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Driftless SW Wisconsin | bacon - 1/6/2017 13:04 The buyers around here can usually pick out the Holstein influence and you get knocked pretty good on price. That's what it seemed like on the Bloomington sale video I watched for a bit. |
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swmn | Something like this
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Driftless SW Wisconsin | Thanks for the pic. Looks like CAB to me! ;-) |
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Ontario, Canada | More than likely its just 1/8 hereford or simmental. Some of my 1/4 Herefords have just a few white markings on their faces.
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| Here are my 3 holstein / angus cattle
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| I bought some bottle calves that were 3/4 angus, 1/4 holstein and they still stuck out like a sore thumb in a pen of my calves. |
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Beresford, SD | With what's going on in the fed stein market, one would think sexed semen sales will skyrocket. |
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Badger State | They are/it is. That'll work..........for a while. |
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| mndairyfarmer did these come from your own dairy? If not where did they come from? |
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| A short tale of two calves "here". Both heifers. One an all black angus/Holstein cross. The other was a much more dairy type heifer calf. It had a little brown color to it but by all accounts way more Holstein than the angus cross. It would have never passed for a beef calf.
Fed the same and together their whole lives, in the same pen and all.
Angus cross looked awesome, to the point I was almost going to make it freezer beef for ourselves. The other animal, not so much. It looked just ok for a fat dairy type heifer.
I normally sell live weight and knew I would take a bath on the holstein dairy type heifer selling live weight.
Got to the private treaty sale barn and was offered $1.12 live for the angus cross heifer, and like $.95 live for the Holstein one. Said screw it and told them to sell them both grade/yield instead. Thought maybe the angus would go prime, and thought I couldn't lose much on the Holstein.
On grade and yield, both animals brought exactly the same per pound.
In the end, I lost money sell the angus cross grade/yield and made more money selling the more dairy type animal that way.
I'm sure it doesn't always work that way for Holstein/angus crosses, but that's how it worked "here".
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swmn | Yes they are from my farm. I have an angus bull with my heifers. I don't have a good system for catching them to ai them like I do my cows. |
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swmn | There was a time not so long ago that Holstein calves got hit in the head. I made good money that spring by raising my bull calves. The bad thing about sexed semen is you lose fertility. I would rather have a cow bred. |
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whitesville new york | carlsoncl - 1/6/2017 07:07
With what's going on in the fed stein market, one would think sexed semen sales will skyrocket.
Still got to find a home for them! I got too many heifers already breeding with a bull. I'd raise my Bulls if I didn't have way too many animals already |
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