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SD | 1460 to me was the best. Lot's of them around still.. We had a 7720 and never thought is was that great. Switched to 1480 and still have it as a 2nd combine on beans. From 1977 to 2008 is was basically the same combine just an upgraded bigger version over time |
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Sw Ontario | nick121 - 1/1/2017 18:09
yeah most people just view them as old junky machines lol. I always want to buy them when I see them for sale. I like the gleaners in particular, but would like to get a massey 410 or 510 or a john deere 95 or 105. The old ones are cheap to buy and then you can have a few backup machines and or parts machines.
If only the old machines could talk, Imagine the stories they could tell
If you want another Gleaner, my neighbour has one for sale. Email in profile |
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Northeast Maine/Southern New Hampshire. | countryman - 1/1/2017 17:46
My father often said "we used to drive a Mercedes and a Porsche in those days!" - Porsche diesel tractor it was... The JDLanz combine lasted only 10 years. The bagging station was replaced with a grain tank later. I remember riding on the open station to the dealer when dad sold it. I was 3 then... We then shared a Claas Mercator like on my last pic with a neighbour before dad purchased the same model on his own in 1980. I drove that one mainly from when I had a license ('83) through to 2000 when I purchased the 88 in the middle of harvest. Edit, you farmed in Germany earlier?
Ireland, we had a lot of German engineering.
We had 2 Mercedes diesel cars, jd Lanz combine, kola combine, claas combines probably 5 or 6.
Welger balers, etc. There is still a claas dominator on my father's farm still. |
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Sw Ontario | greenejd - 1/1/2017 19:11
That Claas looks a lot like the Ford 630 we had. It replaced our John Deere 40
Back in the days, Claas combines were sold in N.America under the Ford brand with blue paint. We have one toy model like that in our collection |
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| I think the next series makes the last look like a joke. So the old ones were never the best. 6600 to 7700 to 2188 to cr9060. And the next class 10s will make everything else look like a joke. |
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southern MN | Dad had a pull type Case, I ran the JD 45 hi lo a little bit, then Gleaner F, F2, F3, M3, L3.
Maybe I have too much experience, but I find the Gleaners pretty easy to work on and keep going.
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South Ga | McFarmer - 1/1/2017 17:19
My favorite was a G4 Minneapolis.
It was parked in the grove and I sunk more Axis ships from the bridge of that battleship than I could count.
Not really relevant to the post but, there was an old Stearman crop duster in the barn across the road from my house. I was an Ace many times over from laying waste to so many German and Japenese planes.
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Grandfield, Ok. | You are right about the Okla. red dealers! though the dealer in Chickasha is much above average except in combines. |
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South west of Winnipeg MB | 90 mf 410 mf and 510 mf dad had those then traded for 914 could not keep in field traded for 9600 co-op good combine then l2 gleaner then 1480 then add another 1480 in 2005 then son came home to farm got more land said we should get another 1480 for spare went to dealer had 2 there wanted 15000 for one said we would take the 2 for 15000 he delivered them the next day then got a versatile rt490 for to year on lease now back to the 1480s. !480s have all updates and work great 2 do about the same as a 8120 |
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Liberty, MO | First I remember, MH Clipper within Wisconsin engine, PTO Clipper, then Oliver 18 PT, Nov 17, 1958 wind storm put the shed down on combine, the an Oliver 25, then an Oliver 525, then I came to farm and bought a 525, then Oliver 545 both used, dad got a used 545 then 2'yrs later he had to retire, so I traded for an 8600 White , lots of hours, acres and years later sold it and bought an White 8920, 20 ft,and 6 row corn head, at 4000 hrs traded for a R 52 because White dealer retired, 3-4 yrs later fire in engine compartment, another R52 3-4 years traded for a 2003 R 65 with 25 ft draper and 6 row Hugger, still in use on my little operation 500 acres..all had their good and bad points, but I think I have to choose the Gleaners , more capacity, wade mud better, and a great dealer when I need assistance. |
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Middle TN | Gleaner L3. She's in the classifieds.
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| I really want to hear someone say "Yep, started with a 2008 9660 STS. That was a heck of a combine back in its day, but boy times have changed." |
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Mid-Missouri | That looks like a very nice combine, been taken care of. Where are you located? |
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ontario | Z.A enterprises: didn't see your email in you profile, Mine is [email protected]
I might be interested in the gleaner. If you could send me a email with the model and price if you know what it is. thanks |
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Ludington/Manistee MI area | nick121 - 1/1/2017 19:15
I was at a local farm auction last week, His 2010 9570 was there, It just amazes me how big and fancy the new machines are! And expensive! I like my old gleaner because I can Fix them and easier to work on which any old machine will break so I would rather have one that is easy to fix.
Thanks for everyone who is replying.
As long as you stay away from the Duetz motor the R series are still simple to work on. |
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| I remember the FIRST combine my Dad had. It was a pre WWII pull type Gleaner. He ran it well into the '50's, then bought his FIRST self propelled combine.......a JD 55. He traded something else for the JD, so he still had the Gleaner. Well, we were in Kansas, but my Mother had grown up in Wisconsin, and when my Grand Dad from Wisconsin heard about the new JD, he announced that he was coming down to Kansas to help with the harvest. So GrandDad ran Dad's new JD 55, and Dad patched up his old pull type Gleaner once more, and pulled it along side. They got done faster, but Dad was a bit disappointed.
We had a couple JD 95's and loved them. Later I bought a 6620 and loved it. I have newer ones now, and they've served me well, but I don't seem to generate quite the level of attachment to them that we used to. They're getting to be a bit too "high tech" for me. lol showboat |
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ontario | hopefully I can upgrade to a R series one day. What was so bad about the Deutz engine? was it because it was air cooled? |
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Manitoba | Grandpa started with a #9 jd pulltype then a 27 massey then he had a 80 Massey traded it for a brand new 1966 jd 95 just like the one I have now, then they added a 6601 jd pulltype it got traded on a new tr85 that was a piece of junk sold it after a year or two and along with the 95 and got a 76 and a 77 7700 jd's ran them over 3600 acres for years traded one for a 88 8820 in about 91 and finally traded the other on a 7720 in 99, 8820 burnt in a shed fire still have the 7720 and ran a couple 9600's then traded on off on a 9860 that was a pice of junk so traded it off on a 760 lexion and just retired the last 9600 after this fall and bought a 595 lexion. |
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Manitoba | Grandpa started with a #9 jd pulltype then a 27 massey then he had a 80 Massey traded it for a brand new 1966 jd 95 just like the one I have now, then they added a 6601 jd pulltype it got traded on a new tr85 that was a piece of junk sold it after a year or two and along with the 95 and got a 76 and a 77 7700 jd's ran them over 3600 acres for years traded one for a 88 8820 in about 91 and finally traded the other on a 7720 in 99, 8820 burnt in a shed fire still have the 7720 and ran a couple 9600's then traded on off on a 9860 that was a pice of junk so traded it off on a 760 lexion and just retired the last 9600 after this fall and bought a 595 lexion.
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North Central Illinois | Dad bought a pull type IH 80 almost 20 years ago. Then a 660 Case. Followed by a $50 deal on a 510 Massey Ferguson gas. After it had a fire we made the switch to green. Been running a 4400 Deere ever since. Now I have two. The diesel is nicer than the gasser. |
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St. Joseph, Champaign County, IL | 6600 Deeres were a LOT more reliable than the 1460 IH we had. Could run any of the 3 6600s we had, with basic maintanence, and keep going day after day.
The 1460 we were always wondering what was going to break next. Broke a rear spindle, right where the hub mounts. Ground a lone off the camshaft due to the change IH made in the oil passages in the cylinder head. Local dealer had at least 2 others just like it at the same time as ours. Clean grain cross auger, that feeds the elevator, broke. New one had a larger diameter shaft. Rails that the feeder house chain rides on, broke. Got to weld new ones in, and replace the chain which had heavier side straps than the original.
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Grey County, ON | We had a F diesel that we run until two years ago when the motor went. We bought it from our neighbour who bought it from a guy from stayner |
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Caldwell County Kentucky | I guess a Gleaner F3 might be one of the best "old" combines. Or just say a Gleaner F series machine in general.
There where a bunch of the those machines around back in the 70's.
Grandfather had a Gleaner of some sorts in the 50's then a John Deere 45-I think, into the early 60's.
Then my Dad had a Gleaner E3, a K, K2, F2 and last a F3. The F3 was sold to an Amish guy who jumped in and drove it home to the next county...with his cell phone in hand. I never did figure that one out. He had a driver who brought him to look at it and to bring him to get it.
I had a L2, L3, CaseIH 1640 and now a CaseIH 2366. |
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| Countryman, the dot on the map looks as you may be near Wadersloh, am I close? |
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Clarksville, IL | what are you going to harvest the sunflowers with?
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Far North Idaho | My vote is for the L & M Gleaners. Very reliable and simple to work on. Too bad that Agco ruined the dealer network atleast in our area.
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Soutwest Ks. | This post absolutely amazes me with the amount of response. I guess goes to show that we farmers love machinery. I told my wife one day, that I wouldn't necessarily miss farming when I retire, but would miss the machinery. I bet I am not the only farmer that feels that way. |
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Cleveland, MS. Own small farm near Booneville, MS | I know where there is a Ford combine sitting in the weeds in NE MS. Not sure if it is still there. It is the only blue combine I have ever seen. Had no idea it was related to Claas. |
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NW KS/ SC ID | The G was good, but IMO the L2 and L3 were better. |
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NW KS/ SC ID | hwdcne and cornerpost, you both likely had the black frame corn heads, the Hugger did not appear till 89.5 and is similar to other gearbox style cornheads. Performance is great on the black frame, but they had alot of stuff going on underneath.
If you did in fact have a hugger on a L/M combine and still know of its location, let me know, I want one. :) supposedly a handful were made from the factory to fit L/M series.
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NW KS/ SC ID | Nick, Tomcat just had bad luck with his, I suspect it was a lemon that he had the misfortune of getting. IIRC it was in a R50, the I6 version.
I have the big 816 cu. in. v-8 in a 91 R60 and so far so good, and a buddy has a 5,000 plus houred R70 with the twin turboed 779 cu. in. and its doing great too.
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NW KS/ SC ID | To answer the direct question of "What were the best old combines" I would say take your pick amongst Gleaner offerings of the C2, G, F series (F, F2, F3) M2 or M3, and L2 or L3. each of them are great, just slightly different positive atributes.
I personally think a 81 or 82 L2 and the 83-86 L3s are just about perfect.
We dont like getting rid of stuff around here, so the yard is getting pretty full. :)
Dad's first combine was a Gleaner C, he actually did sell it, but he ended up buying it back on that guy's retirement sale.
As far as the running fleet, Dad's oldest is his 65 C2 factory turbo diesel 6 speed transmission open station which sees the field yearly, plenty of L2s, some M2s, and some F series machines, and the newest Dad has is a pair of 87 Gleaner R7s, one with 7400 hours.
My first machine was a 83 Gleaner L3, then a 82 L2, then a 91 R60. It is a addiction, I never sold any of them. :) I like doing wheat with the L series machines, and doing corn with the R60.
The reason we believe the Gleaners are the best is a perfect balance of simplicity, reliability, ease of repairs and maintenance, large capacity and rugged components, yet small size and light weight, and advanced design, if they think its a good design they are not afraid to think outside the box, from down front cylinders in the conventionals to the transverse rotor.
IMO nothing is able to come close to matching a Gleaner on those attributes.
That being said, we know how to work on things and have our own parts supply, so machine design is way more important to us than dealer coverage.
After reading many of the above posts, it appears that many of the folks were proud and happy Gleaner owners, but thanks to Agco's stance on dealer coverage, they dropped the brand and pursued combines with better coverage, as not everyone can stock all the parts needed and work on everything themselves and needs a dealer that can do that.
Smooth move Agco. :)
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Germany | Dortmund, should be like 60 km:-)
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sw corner ia. | what is shows is there are a lot of really old farmers still out there and they have to have a combine. they also have long memories when it comes to what burned them the most or least. if I could do without a combine I sure would but the kernals won't fall off the cob into my wagon by themselves. |
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Ludington/Manistee MI area | GM Guy - 1/2/2017 00:02
Nick, Tomcat just had bad luck with his, I suspect it was a lemon that he had the misfortune of getting. IIRC it was in a R50, the I6 version.
I have the big 816 cu. in. v-8 in a 91 R60 and so far so good, and a buddy has a 5,000 plus houred R70 with the twin turboed 779 cu. in. and its doing great too.
Just keep them clean and all is well.
We had constant issues with ours. I have an uncle that had a 100 06 tractor he battled with that till it eventually left in favor of a 4250 Deere. The guy that does some custom round baling for me has a dead Duetz in his pasture that cows use as a scratching post. I see his neighbor is driving something like a 4230 instead of the his Duetz because it's in a shed in pieces for the last couple years. So yup I had a lemon. |
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Lincoln, North Dakota | I think the L2 Gleaner is the top on my list |
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West River, SD | Jeez, I know that there are a lot of JD guys out there, but the love for 66-77whatevers and 94-600 things on this site is ridiculous. Maybe they're great, IDK, just always seemed like a "John Deere guy's machine" to me. Nothing special when actually compared to anything else.
Around here, the Axial Flow combines have mostly taken over as the simple machine for the smaller producer. The L Gleaner used to be popular, but with no dealer and aging of the machines, most of them have left.
My grandpa's first SP machine was an MM Uni. My dad had a Gleaner A, an L and an L3. The L3 is still sitting in the shed, and its my alfalfa seed machine, I guess. I started with a CIH 1688.
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Manitoba | Likely just the 9600 and 7720 this way we don't have to buy headers for a few acres a year, would cost as much as the 9600 is worth to get headers for the lexions and we already have them for the Deere's |
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ontario | wow, there was a lot of responses! Thanks,I liked hearing about everyone's machines and what they had. I like the gleaners and don't really need a dealer to keep my old ones running, Do all the work ourselves. |
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KY | GM Guy - 1/1/2017 23:24
To answer the direct question of "What were the best old combines" I would say take your pick amongst Gleaner offerings of the C2, G, F series (F, F2, F3) M2 or M3, and L2 or L3. each of them are great, just slightly different positive atributes.
I personally think a 81 or 82 L2 and the 83-86 L3s are just about perfect.
We dont like getting rid of stuff around here, so the yard is getting pretty full. :)
Dad's first combine was a Gleaner C, he actually did sell it, but he ended up buying it back on that guy's retirement sale.
As far as the running fleet, Dad's oldest is his 65 C2 factory turbo diesel 6 speed transmission open station which sees the field yearly, plenty of L2s, some M2s, and some F series machines, and the newest Dad has is a pair of 87 Gleaner R7s, one with 7400 hours.
My first machine was a 83 Gleaner L3, then a 82 L2, then a 91 R60. It is a addiction, I never sold any of them. :) I like doing wheat with the L series machines, and doing corn with the R60.
The reason we believe the Gleaners are the best is a perfect balance of simplicity, reliability, ease of repairs and maintenance, large capacity and rugged components, yet small size and light weight, and advanced design, if they think its a good design they are not afraid to think outside the box, from down front cylinders in the conventionals to the transverse rotor.
IMO nothing is able to come close to matching a Gleaner on those attributes.
That being said, we know how to work on things and have our own parts supply, so machine design is way more important to us than dealer coverage.
After reading many of the above posts, it appears that many of the folks were proud and happy Gleaner owners, but thanks to Agco's stance on dealer coverage, they dropped the brand and pursued combines with better coverage, as not everyone can stock all the parts needed and work on everything themselves and needs a dealer that can do that.
Smooth move Agco. :)
You need to post some pics!! |
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| Some of my family came to the US from Wadersloh, some from Bavaria, some around Gera. |
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| Model M103 sold by CCIL, better known as the Yellow Fellow, was a pre NH combine. Wit had a Deutz engine that operated very cheap. Combine break downs were rare. We later made a home built wood cab. The grain tank was a little small, about 50 bushels. This was a great old combine! |
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| Over the years we had 3 750s,2 850s,3 860s and 2 865s,they were all excellent combines. |
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NW KS/ SC ID | Of which ones? All of them? lol
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KY | Yea all of them! Show off your collection. |
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| What type and model Welger balers did you have on farm? |
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| What type and model Welger balers did you have on farm? |
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| 10 machines....how many years.....seems like you would be trading quite often unless you have lots of acres. |
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Just for Fun., What were the best old combines?
