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NE IL | Looking to upgrade the old 4440 and was wondering everyones opinion on the subject. The general tasks for this tractor would include planting, sidedressing, auger cart, as well as odd jobs around a livestock farm like cutting/roundbaling hay. I originally was searching for a 7810 but noticed you can get a similarlly houred 8100/8200 for about the same price.
Wondering which way some of you guys would go? Is the reliability similar between the two and would I regret a 8100/8200 in more nimble situatoins like cutting hay.
Thanks for your input! |
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Northeast Nebraska and Candelaria Philippines | 8100 all the way.
Much better ride. When cutting hay, the better ride quality is what you'll want. 8100 is superior in every way. |
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OR | 8100/8200 all day long we don't own a 7000 all 8000 here 100%better tractor |
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| do you need 540 PTO? 8000 probably 1000 PTO only. |
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| 7810 PowerQuad is one of my favorite green tractors I've ever driven. I'd rather drive an 8100 though, especially if I was writing the check for it in the used market. |
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Sunnyside, WA | Had a 7810. Traded it for an 8300 and have never looked back. We have a collection of 8000s now. I figure that they will all die here, but we can't seem to kill them |
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North west MN | 8000's are great never liked the 7000's and they had their troubles |
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south east SD | CEO - 12/26/2016 22:09
do you need 540 PTO? 8000 probably 1000 PTO only.
Nope, our 8300 had all 3 pto's. 540, small 1000 and big 1000 and I used all 3 in it.
Traded the 8300 for a 8260R and it has all 3 to.
My vote, 8000 series all the way!! |
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NW Iowa | 8100 has dual speed pto. 8200 on up are optional. Hard to find but they are out there. You have to get a later 8100, 8200 or 8300 to get the 8.1l engine. Early ones had the 7.6l. All 8400s came with 8.1l.
To answer your original question though are you wanting 2wd or mfwd? The mfwd 8000 series maybe would be better than the 7810. The 2wd would be a toss up. Cabs are bigger and better on 8000 series. Powershift transmissions are better than powershift in 7810. The haying aspect would maybe make the 7810 more nimble imo. Otherwise take the 8000 series. |
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| My pref is 8000 series also but my 8200 has big 1000 only. I know there are some that have the optional 540 but I could not remember exactly the details of what models had that available. |
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| We run both a 7800 and 8100 mfwd on our farm we plant and bale with 7800 never had the 8100 in the hay field because it's usually spreading fertilizer at same time. If I was buying one to do all the task I would go with the 8100/8200 the ride is so much better being a longer frame. And as someone else stated they are way more nimble than one would think. |
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NE IL | Thanks for the great feedback so far guys! You guys are supporting the way I was leaning. To reiterate I am looking for a MFWD tractor with a 540/1000 pto.
The one thing I am most concerned with going the 8100/8200 route is getting that tractor in a hayfield roundbaling/cutting hay. Still worried I would be kicking myself for not going with the 7810, though most have relieved my worries a little bit with the nimble comments of the 8100/8200. |
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NW Iowa. / SW Arizona | I've got both 8000 and 7000 series tractors, I much prefer to drive the 8000 series over the 7000 series. |
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Central Nebraska | Once you run a baler with an 8000 series powershift you will never want a rough riding 7000 series again. We have both and the 7800 is now the rake tractor our guys even try to get 8000 series that have duals all the way around on the baler if I'm not using them
for something row crop due to the ride and don't have to move their hand to run hydraulic lever to kick bale out. |
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South Bend, IN | Pull a 664 NH round baler with 8100. Works great |
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Pierce county WI | I bought my 8200 5 years ago. I needed a big puller that I could do all my farm work with. The only way I could justify it at the time was to replace my 4455 and 4450 2wds. I thought I would miss the 4450 on the planter cause I had an 8 row. Nope, the 8200 is way better, great tractor. If you find a nice one with thousand only, it can be converted. However look at plate around the shaft if there is 4 screws in the casting, then it's really cheap and simple to convert. |
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Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn. | We have a 7700 2wd, an 8310, an 8120 and an 8310R. The 7700 has the power quad shift, the 8000's are all powershift with MFWD. Nephew has a 7830 with IVT and MFWD
I like them all. You may want to drive the 8100 and check out the 4-5 and 12-13 shifts. The 12-13 can be particularly terrible on those tractors. This alone would discourage me from buying it especially for a grain cart. After owning the 8310, I drove a used 8100 that I was considering. I couldn't believe how terrible the 12-13 shift was. I questioned if it needed adjustment, the answer was that No, it was adjusted properly. The shift can be brutal due to the fact that two packs must change ratios. The situation has improved with the newer models.
Edited by tedbear 12/27/2016 07:49
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Land of the Horizontal Snow Ontarios West Coast | 8300 stays hooked to a JD 835 moco once we are done seeding, we put 7710 on baler as 8300 only has 1000 pto, great to cut hay with ! |
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Saronville NE | I had a 7810 I liked it. But we have a 8300 on agco 3315 mower and 8110 on br7090 all summer, really work well. |
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Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells | We have 7420 power quad 16 speed, 7520 IVT with loader, 8110 big 1000 PTO only, all 3 have FWD. If I could only have one tractor for the jobs that you to do, 8110 with 3 PTOs.
Dan |
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Pontiac, IL. | We have both, and I guess I'll be the odd man out here. The 7810 PS is much handier than the 8100 PS. As tedbear stated, the shifting on the 8000 series, especially the early ones is TERRIBLE, even after they have been calibrated. You don't say what baler, but I would hate to be the man on the rack trying to stack bales behind an 8000 series tractor. NOT ALL 8100's have the dual PTO, as someone stated. Our 7810 is the handiest tractor on our farm; used mainly for batwing mowing and the grain cart now. Used to pull the 90' pull type sprayer. Starts WAY BETTER in cold weather. (not sure why). Almost as much power as the 8100. Only benefit the 8100 has is: a little better ride and more traction, 46" rubber vs. 42". 8100 does have a bigger cab=louder cab. Unless 2 people are in the cab, why do you need bigger? 8100 has already been overhauled, even though the 7810 has 1500+ more hrs. Trans. has been calibrated on 8100 SEVERAL times, and still shifts rough. Our 7810 is the most used tractor on our farm |
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Roseglen, North Dakota | 2spd PTO most definitely not std on 8100. More w/o it than with it
Edited by jd8850 12/27/2016 10:28
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Jackson County, AL | For the cab and ride alone its worth it. Much prefer the power shift in the 8000s. Command Arm is much more convenient and you can do much more with the hydraulics. Just all around a more capable tractor. Never ran a 7810 but was around them. Was on the first 8000 in the county as a demo when they came out and been impressed ever since. |
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Floyd County, Iowa | My '96 8100 has all three: 540, small 1000, large 1000. Pull one out, put the other one in. |
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JD 8100/8200 vs 7810
