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Sw Ontario | I have a 2012 Trimble (New Holland branded) FM 750 screen + a 2013 EZ steer steering wheel plus motor + a 2013 IMD 600 controller + a Ag 25 antenna.
I want to plant with it at very low speed, 1/4 MPH
Don't need year to year accuracy.
What are my (best) options ?
What extra or other devices do I need ?
TIA for any input |
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NW Ohio | You need Autopilot. I don't think EZ steer goes that slow. I think it is like min 1 or 2 mph and EZ pilot is like min 1/2 mph. Not sure of those mins but it is something like that. When you get down that low of speed, AP is the only route. |
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northeast ohio | You may want to check with your dealer about a Trimble Autopilot Motor Drive setup. Maybe swapping the IMD 600 for a NAV3 will get your EZPilot to the same level as a a fully integrated hydraulic system. I have seen several cabling diagrams for the motor drive setup. One version that uses a completely new wiring harness and another that looks like the normal NAV harness plus an Autosense box connected to the EZPilot cables with a jumper cable (or two)
http://trl.trimble.com/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-778921/AP_MD_In...
Edited by neo_ag 12/24/2016 20:44
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NW Ohio | I have looked into that. It has a 1/2 mph minimum. Was looking at using it on a truck application that we use. |
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Alberta Canada | I run a Autopilot Motor drive and it acts just like Autopilot hydraulic. You can engage it a 0 mph. Now whether or not your tractor will steer very well at that speed is a different question. You would most likely has to play with the gain and deadzone to make it work that slow. |
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68340 | Hello,
You are the first person I know that has this steering.
I desire a system that I can plant with and come back with a cultivator/hill with. Some say I only want a hyd steered system. Yes? Will your steering system fulfill my wants? |
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Sw Ontario | ddk6183 - 12/25/2016 11:50
I run a Autopilot Motor drive and it acts just like Autopilot hydraulic. You can engage it a 0 mph. Now whether or not your tractor will steer very well at that speed is a different question. You would most likely has to play with the gain and deadzone to make it work that slow.
That is the news I was hoping for. Somebody told me that it most likely would work as you say from 0.0 mph up but wasn't a 100 % sure. He also told me that I would need a NAV3 controller, can you confirm that ? These things are quite expensive and want to know for sure that it's going to work for me before I invest in that controller.
What do you mean by playing with the gain and dead zone ?
TIA |
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NW Ohio | Thanks for the info. Per my Trimble rep and the only information I could find, .5 mph was the minimum. |
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Alberta Canada | I can't say for sure this will work in your situation but I would think it would work fine. I'm a beef operator in the great white north. I plant about 100acres of cereals for green feed and produce hay. This is on my main tractor for field work. I really like it for tillage, seeding and cutting hay because of line acquisition is far superior than EZ-Pilot. I found that with the EZ-Pilot when I engaged after turning in the headland if the wheels were not pointing in the right direction you would have to drive 10-15' before the system would recognize that and then correct. With this system it immediately turns the wheels in the right direction as soon as it is engaged. With this system you also get to use OnSwath which is better at getting the hitch on line, not the nose of the tractor. The other big advantage to me is I can stop and backup a few feet if needed (ie unplug the cutter) and it stays engaged the entire time. I am running RangePoint for a correction and I seem to be able to hold sub inch crosstrack error 95+% of the time when seeding at 4mph and cutting up to 10mph.
Hope this helps
Edited by ddk6183 12/26/2016 13:54
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Alberta Canada | I am running this with a NAV II, if you can find a good used one you will be fine. There is nothing a NAV III can do that a NAV II can't including NextSwath. And I have heard from Trimble that this system will "unofficially" work with a FMX/FM1000 and 2050 which includes NextSwath. If you are at any trade shows and Trimble is there with a demo for the AutoPilot Motordrive it is probably running on a 2050.
P-Gain and deadzone are settings you can play with to fine tune the steering performance. I can't remember off hand as I calibrated my tractor last spring but with this system deadzone might be called freeplay like the EZ-Pilot system. |
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Sw Ontario | Well, thanks a lot guys for all the good information. I think I can make it work here. Will post some pics next spring of the result. Happy New Year to all. |
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Trimble FM 750 + EZ pilot autosteer options
