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catmendoo
Posted 12/3/2016 23:24 (#5674283)
Subject: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Northern edge Mahnomen County
I'm thinking of buying a fuel trailer. I think a 500 to 750 gallon is the size I want. I have looked at many online, I haven't seen too many in person. Do any of them have something that makes it stand out from the rest. Do any of them have problem that you want to stay away from? My thought is to add some storage boxes to it so this trailer would take the place of a service body on a pickup. Any thoughts or comments are appreciated.
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TMX864
Posted 12/3/2016 23:33 (#5674291 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Michigan
We have a 500gal Thundercreek. No boxes or anything just fuel wagon. We have a service truck that goes to the field everyday with a small tank in the bed to maintain. Fuel wagon only goes to the field when everything is empty and needs filled, usually only once a week when we are really busy in spring or fall. The trailer pulls nice and the pump pumps fast, but I would never trade a service truck for a trailer with a couple toolboxes on it. I like not having to drag a trailer to the field daily.

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catmendoo
Posted 12/3/2016 23:58 (#5674311 - in reply to #5674291)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Northern edge Mahnomen County
My pickup carries tools, 90 gallons fuel, oil, grease and other stuff all the time. I would keep this the same, but I need more fuel capacity. By the time I would put more fuel capacity in the pickup there won't be any room left. The trailer would go to the field everyday at planting and harvest/fall tillage. Average 150-200 gallons a day, sometimes more if able to run longer hours. Most of the other times what's on the pickup is enough. My thought is if I had a trailer like this I could stick with a regular pickup and not a service body. This would make trading pickups every 80-100,000 miles a lot less work and more cost effective.
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OlsonKrist
Posted 12/4/2016 01:00 (#5674335 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


nw MN
I bought an old NH3 trailer with a 12v fuel pump on it. Way cheaper than a fuel trailer. Works great especially in the fall. 250 to fill the combine and 200 in a couple tractors and I am glad I am not hand cranking from the truck tank anymore.



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spellfarms
Posted 12/4/2016 01:14 (#5674338 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Central Iowa
I have a 500 gallon Lamar. It has been a good trailer and I don't know how I got by so long without a trailer. I have had it for about 4 years. I bought it because it was cheap. No problems with it so far
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Fingers77
Posted 12/4/2016 06:52 (#5674431 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.



It's a crazy stupid amount of money to spend on the newest farmer status item. You could but any sort of applicable tank, trailer and boxes and build your own for at least half of what one of them go for.

Too many other cheaper options to spending that kind of money.

But, the Thunder Creeks ARE nice. That's the status symbol of choice around here.
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HeyhayJCM
Posted 12/4/2016 07:00 (#5674444 - in reply to #5674431)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


central ohio..between Springville and Millbrook.
I tend to agree, BUT, I poked fun at my neighbors new fuel trailer once and he brought up a valid point I had never thought about. he said that for as far from home as he goes for fieldwork, he was buying liability coverage in a sense. he feels that he better stay legal and have a legal trailer.
I'm not sure on the laws as I'm not big enough to require more than a transfer tank, but as genius, neat and cheap as the above pictured anhydrous/fuel trailer is, I doubt it would provide the farmer much protection in court should it cause an accident or leak and cause an explosion.

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Manteno Mark
Posted 12/4/2016 08:03 (#5674539 - in reply to #5674444)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Manteno Illinois 50 miles south of Chicago
We bought a Thunder Creek this fall. I was tired of running back home for more fuel. Added the rear storage box to it. Then put an air compressor in it. I had a service truck and i like this just as well. Carries everything i need. I can add DEF to the front storage area if i ever have a tractor that uses it. Get the gas pump,its fast.
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dvswia
Posted 12/4/2016 08:10 (#5674557 - in reply to #5674335)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


sw corner ia.
good luck, I have had narrow nh3 trailers like that upside down more than once.
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fastdeere
Posted 12/4/2016 08:13 (#5674563 - in reply to #5674539)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Bought a new 500 gallon load trail last winter for $5500 and it has worked well, for that kind of money and having it baffled with brakes and torsion axles we weren't going to build one . We farm in a 40 mile stretch north to south and making multiple trips with the pickup or running everything with a half or quarter tank of fuel all the time was getting old. So having a trailer that could be pulled 70 mph and was legal has served us well.
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Bruce NW Ia
Posted 12/4/2016 08:21 (#5674583 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Cherokee County, Northwest Iowa
A friend of mine bought one of those bumper hitch dump trailers, then puts all the stuff he needs to service combine, including fuel tank, in trailer. He is kinda spread out with his brother and another neighbor all in on the combining. Just saw it once briefly, granted you have to load and unload it every year, but at least you had a nice dump trailer the rest of the year. bruce
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ndsu84
Posted 12/4/2016 08:22 (#5674586 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


EC North Dakota
We bought a 500 thunder creek 4-5 years ago. Wife says to put it on the list for top ten things ever bought.

It would be nice if it was a 750 with def and air but the 500 works really well. Better than a truck for us because it can go with whoever needs it and be unhooked at the field if necessary.

Will trail perfectly at 75.

Paid 5 for mine as a demo. The 18k one would be sweet. :)
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youngsekfarmer
Posted 12/4/2016 08:36 (#5674626 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Elsmore, Kansas
We have a 500 gallon Thunder Creek and we really like it but the thing was STUPID EXPENSIVE and I about had to clean my drawers when I saw what Grandpa paid for it! I told him when I saw the receipt that I had found one for half what he paid and his reply was "It's my money ain't it?" and I said "well that it is!" lol!!! I hope I'm successful enough at this deal I can have the ability to feel that way!
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Sodbustr
Posted 12/4/2016 08:48 (#5674644 - in reply to #5674583)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Western Iowa
That is a good idea and the direction I am going. I have used a 500 gallon on a good little 2 wheel trailer for years, but the tank needs replaced

I have decided to make a large skid with a 750 gallon tank and a cabinet or 2 for oil, grease, ect. Plan on having it where I can set it on a trailer with a payloader in 30 seconds. Put it on a nice tilt bed equipment trailer (I don't need a dump trailer, but the sides would be slick for this as well). At least I can use the trailer 8-9 months a year for other things. As long as I make it really easy to remove and install the skid, I am sure it will be more useful to me.

I like the 'store' bought fuel trailers, but they just don't make financial sense.
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Sodbustr
Posted 12/4/2016 08:51 (#5674655 - in reply to #5674626)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Western Iowa
youngsekfarmer - 12/4/2016 08:36

"It's my money ain't it?"


My standard reply when someone I know isn't being too 'smart' with there money?


It WAS your money..........
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kswrenchturner05
Posted 12/4/2016 08:52 (#5674657 - in reply to #5674557)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.



Geuda Springs, Kansas
I don't think they were d signed to carry Thant much weight. Plus that has got to be super illegal.
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heartlandfarmer
Posted 12/4/2016 08:59 (#5674671 - in reply to #5674644)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


NC ia
We built ourselves a fuel trailer. We kind of put it together in a hurry so we bought a car trailer for around $2200 to put it on instead of building the trailer. If I do another one I will do it from ground up. It has a 720 gallon tank, tool box, air compressor, retractable air and fuel hose real. We also have a generator and welder which we strap in and we can take it out during the off season if we want to. Excluding the welder and generator we got about 4500 bucks in it.

Heck if guys want a fuel trailer I'll build you one and I'll charge you half the price of a thunder Creek, and we can both be happy. lol

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biggrntractor
Posted 12/4/2016 09:14 (#5674702 - in reply to #5674655)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Northern Illinois

We got a single wall 1000 from our fuel supplier as he is going to double wall only. This tank was used for oil only.......minor problem waste oil. It had about 4" of sludge in the bottom. We had to cut a 15x15 hole in the top to get in and clean it out. We bought this tender chassis on sale as we couldn't build the chassis that cheap. We added 16' radials, brakes and lights. We use a banjo 5hp. pump from Dultmier and a Solterra pump for DEF. We used a "tank wagon" style nozzle, 2" piping and 2"hose.





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catmendoo
Posted 12/4/2016 09:17 (#5674712 - in reply to #5674335)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Northern edge Mahnomen County
I have one of these now. Yes it was cheap and easy. However, it is not the most convenient, and more clumsy. (difficult to back up, top heavy, no storage, question of liability-legality) My reasoning for getting the trailer would be to replace having a service body on a pickup. I would like to trade pickups every 4-5 years with 80-100,000 miles. Rather than swapping or buying another service bed every time, is this a viable option? I only have one pickup, a crew cab 1 ton single rear wheels 8ft box. It is a family hauler, daily driver, winter time snow plow, whatever I need a pickup to do.
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Brandon SWIA
Posted 12/4/2016 09:24 (#5674722 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Finish line makes an affordable yet well built trailer.
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jdironman
Posted 12/4/2016 09:25 (#5674723 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Very southern Mn
I am as conservative as any body when it comes to spending money and wasn't very happy when my son in law came home with a used thunder creek trailer. I have to say that I am impressed. My 80 year old dad usually refills everything in the morning and he loves it. Honda engine doesn't need much to start and don't have to mess with trying to get power to pump. Hose reel is retractable and easy for him to handle. We are spread out so trailer has lights , safety chains and doors that are sealed to keep road dust out of the pump area and easy to move at night safely. It also has correct whatever markings on tank that keeps dot happy. Ours holds about 750 gals which in the fall doesn't always last the day (if we are trying to refuel in the morning and than fill up again in the evenings if we are away from home,) wish it was bigger but other than that I am a believer. Next year we will have 1 def tractor so I haven't decided what to do if we will update but we will stick with a thunder creek type trailer. Would not want tools on fuel trailer.
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catmendoo
Posted 12/4/2016 09:33 (#5674736 - in reply to #5674723)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Northern edge Mahnomen County
Can you explain why you would not want tools on the trailer?
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 12/4/2016 09:46 (#5674758 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Central ND
Some day, Im going to fix a 500 gal tank inside a short horse trailer or cargo hauler with heavy duty tires/ axles under it. Can find then resonable and will pull easily up and down a feild or highway.
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DarrellS
Posted 12/4/2016 10:05 (#5674800 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Louise, TX
This spring I bought a 990 gal Lamar with 75 gal def tank and pump, electric brakes, solar charger for $7,400.00. This was 1/3 the price a dealer wanted for a Thundercreek.

The trailer is well built and you don't even know it is behind you at highway speeds.
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jdironman
Posted 12/4/2016 10:07 (#5674804 - in reply to #5674758)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Very southern Mn
Our 3/4 ton 4d pickup has torch, air comp, a montezuma box full of tools and 4 assortments of hardware in movable plastic bins with covers that you can see inside without opening lid. We also have some air wrenches ect in back seat, so nothing fancy but we normally take pickup to repair not repair to pickup. Fixing flats on the roads , in fields or having to cut something in the field or what ever , can't imagine dragging a fuel trailer thru field or mud to get to repair.
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boog
Posted 12/4/2016 11:49 (#5675013 - in reply to #5674335)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.



We converted a 1000 gal AA tank/gear & added a 12v 25gpm pump to haul diesel fuel. Works great for farms far away. Also have a 110 gal pu tank for small fills. For DEF, we carry a 275 gal tote on a 2wheel trailer. Would like to get a 1t service truck but our settup works for us. Whave thought about buying a 2 axle trailer & putfing a 500 gal fuel tank & the DEF tote on it.
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1DH
Posted 12/4/2016 12:05 (#5675040 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


swia
I like fuel in service truck. Takes little bigger service tk.
Then you can pull head when moving farm to farm.
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flinkster
Posted 12/4/2016 12:17 (#5675063 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.



Osnabrock ND
We put together our own. We did frame and had welding shop build tank and we did rest ourselves. Real happy with it, can pull behind pickup or service truck. It hold 800 gallons n left enough room for def tank if needed.
http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=607822&mid=506...

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behog
Posted 12/4/2016 12:55 (#5675151 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


frederick, MD
Many times if I need 300-400 gallons of fuel in a shot my supplier will bring it directly to the field. I don't get full tanker loads like a lot of you do so this might be the differance.
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steve c-il
Posted 12/4/2016 13:31 (#5675243 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: Legal ? Really??


Central Illinois
I can not believe that any of these trailers are "Legal" let alone pulling them down public roads. Most on here have CDL licenses and know better than to haul over 110 gallons of fuel in Illinois in any thing not DOT approved, with placard and being operated by some one with-out a Hazmat classification. It is just a matter of time before one is involved in an accident and the crack-down begins.
Till them, enjoy using them.
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peanutpride
Posted 12/4/2016 13:51 (#5675291 - in reply to #5674283)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


newberry fl
I don't know much about the factory built trailers,b
But here's a picture of the one I built last winter. It's only 150 gallons but you could do the same thing with a 500 gallon tank. I use air to pump fuel and it works great, 20 psi will empty it in eight minutes. We have an anhydrous nurse tank set up the same way but with a larger hose and nozzle that moves fuel substantially faster.



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johnk
Posted 12/4/2016 14:11 (#5675331 - in reply to #5674431)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


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NFDairy
Posted 12/4/2016 15:45 (#5675503 - in reply to #5675243)
Subject: RE: Legal ? Really??


steve c-il - 12/4/2016 14:31

I can not believe that any of these trailers are "Legal" let alone pulling them down public roads. Most on here have CDL licenses and know better than to haul over 110 gallons of fuel in Illinois in any thing not DOT approved, with placard and being operated by some one with-out a Hazmat classification. It is just a matter of time before one is involved in an accident and the crack-down begins.
Till them, enjoy using them.


The home made improvised fuel trailers? Yes.

Many factory trailers are DOT compliant. Provided you have a HAZMAT endorsement and the trailer is properly placarded, you have no unusual amount of liability.
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rednwia
Posted 12/4/2016 15:46 (#5675504 - in reply to #5674671)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


NW IA
Have any pictures of the trailer you would be willing to share? Planning on building something similar this winter.
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youngsekfarmer
Posted 12/4/2016 16:43 (#5675608 - in reply to #5674800)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


Elsmore, Kansas
The Thunder Creeks are severely over priced. They are a nice Trailer but no where near what they cost.
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heartlandfarmer
Posted 12/4/2016 17:24 (#5675687 - in reply to #5675503)
Subject: RE: Legal ? Really??


NC ia
NFDairy - 12/4/2016 15:45

steve c-il - 12/4/2016 14:31

I can not believe that any of these trailers are "Legal" let alone pulling them down public roads. Most on here have CDL licenses and know better than to haul over 110 gallons of fuel in Illinois in any thing not DOT approved, with placard and being operated by some one with-out a Hazmat classification. It is just a matter of time before one is involved in an accident and the crack-down begins.
Till them, enjoy using them.


The home made improvised fuel trailers? Yes.

Many factory trailers are DOT compliant. Provided you have a HAZMAT endorsement and the trailer is properly placarded, you have no unusual amount of liability.


I could be wrong but I believe you only need a hasmat endorsement if it is over 1000 gallons.
Does need to be placarded tho.
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heartlandfarmer
Posted 12/4/2016 17:27 (#5675699 - in reply to #5675504)
Subject: RE: Fuel trailers. The Good and the Bad.


NC ia
I can send you some tomorrow if you would like. Shoot me an email mine is in profile.
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