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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | I bought this old girl at a auction yesterday. I've determined from the serial number that it is a 1959 model, but I can't find specs that tell what it weighs. I need to know the weight so I take the right lowboy.
My big idea is to use it as a tow dozer for installing tile with a plow. I also wondered if anyone ever hooks a dozer direct to a plow for tile and use a auxiliary hydraulic unit to run the plow?
My middle daughter said she'd be the cat skinner.
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| Not much help but had a fence row recently cleared and they has a sweet 1965 TD 30 and claimed it to weigh 40 tons with a Rome clearing blade on it.
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Slicker than a Yes album. | Yes, Crary does it all the time. Not sure if they have mounts for your specific dozer, but after a little measuring they can.
http://www.crarytilepro.com/index.php/crary-tile-pro-photos/categor... |
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SE IL | IDK for sure but would guess comparable to a D6 Cat. That cable blade reminds me of a local gentleman that has a TD25. He cleared some ground for me about 20 years ago. He's about 80 now and still going at it. I learned a lot from him. He can still work me into the ground at 20 years my senior. Another local guy mounted a Krac plow on an old D8 with an APU. It worked ok as far as I know but he later bought a Hoes from a guy that retired. IDK what he did with the 8. I think it takes a lot of hydraulics to operate a plow. It may be difficult finding parts for that old girl. Good luck and keep us posted. |
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SE Minnesota | http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/International_TD-20B
On here they're saying around 30k, but I'm assuming that's less blade and canopy.
seems on the light side for that old hoss. |
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Sac & Story county IA | I had a plow on a D8 13A. A pound of weight is a pound of pull. |
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SE Nebraska | around 15 ton |
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west central illinois | As it sits you are pushing 40,000 lbs. tractor,blade,winch,cable,canopy. |
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| 20 ton . my dad past away 3 years ago ,he ran a dozer all his life .he was 84 worked up to the last 2 years. only ran IH started with a TD 9, had TD 18 cable, TD 20 182 series TD 20 201 series ,TD 25 ect. still have some parts laying around ,rollers front ilder a complete cable control unit in barn. them was the good old days. good luck they don't make them like that any more. |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | KevinM - 11/27/2016 08:04
IDK for sure but would guess comparable to a D6 Cat.
Good morning Kevin,
Just to look at it, it looks bigger that a D6c I used to have, but smaller that a D8K that we also ran.
I have a detach trailer that will handle it easily, but it's supposed to be raining tomorrow, so I was hoping to use an old 20 ton lowboy with ramps for a faster get away!
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | emtbd1979 - 11/27/2016 08:36
As it sits you are pushing 40,000 lbs. tractor,blade,winch,cable,canopy.
Good morning Robby,
I think you are close.....
I'll weigh the thing on the way home, we will see who won "THE PRICE IS RIGHT". |
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| We had some retention dams and a pond built here this summer. 3 TD20s, 5 scrapers, and 2 excavators, all old, but those brothers could make them run. |
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Northwest IA. Near Ft. Dodge | I also have thought of your same idea of a dozen pulling a pull type with the plow having its own power unit for hydraulics. Never pursued any farther than that. Have seen pics and that's all. Have also thought of pulling plow with dozer and building a spring loaded, hanging clothes line of sorts and driving the modern tractor with hydraulics along side. Would probably end up being a mess.
Edited by Too Tall 11/27/2016 11:50
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west central illinois | olivetroad - 11/27/2016 08:33
emtbd1979 - 11/27/2016 08:36
As it sits you are pushing 40,000 lbs. tractor,blade,winch,cable,canopy.
Good morning Robby,
I think you are close.....
I'll weigh the thing on the way home, we will see who won "THE PRICE IS RIGHT". |
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Scottville, 49454 Northwest Michigan | We bought an old Allis dozer about 5 years ago, strictly to pull a Gold Digger tile plow. It's a model FD30B that weighs about 75,000 pounds. It too didn't have hydraulics that we could use to run the tile plow. Gold Digger, which is now owned by AgLeader, has "stand alone" hydraulic units available to run their tile plows. These hydraulic units are driven by a small gas engine. I believe they are priced around five grand.... give or take a couple thousand. I'm sure their units work fine, but we were able to utilize a drive shaft that we found behind a plate on the back of this Allis dozer to power an appropriate sized hydraulic pump. We probably have a total of about $2500 into this setup, plus we don't have to deal with keeping gas in the engine of a stand alone hydraulic system. It's been working fine for us. So I'm sure you can get your dozer to work for you to run a tile plow. Good luck with your endeavor. gordon
Edited by briggsfm 11/27/2016 12:50
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swMN | I'll guess 35,000 I think a bare TD20 weighs just shy of 30. |
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Eastern North Carolina | 43000# with winch and 11' blade...
Keep in mind about parts availability, those 691 engine parts and getting few and far between.
110 drawbar horsepower....
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | retento - 11/27/2016 13:19
43000# with winch and 11' blade...
Keep in mind about parts availability, those 691 engine parts and getting few and far between.
110 drawbar horsepower....
Hi Gary,
As soon as I bought it, a guy asked me what I was going to do with it. I told him "it cost me the equivalent of 250 bushels of soybeans. I'm going to run it until something breaks that costs more than the rest of a hopper bottom load, and it'll get cut up when that happens."
Was that 691 a low speed engine like a D7-17a Cat? I noticed it didnt have a turbo.
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Eastern North Carolina | TD-18 turned 1200 at high idle, TD-20 used the same 691 cid engine turning 1550 at high idle. TD20B used the DT-429, same engine used in the 4100 and 4156 4X4 farm tractors, then the TD-20C used the V-800 V8, then on to the DT-466 in the later years. All of those tractors had somewhat weaker final drives than their Caterpillar counterpart... Keep a check on the finals.
Those 619's are known to crack a cylinder head ever so often, thus the waster tank over flow above the radiator...... Keep it full of coolant and watch for bubbles. Bubbles no good...!!!
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sw corner ia. | 44,700 is my guess since it isn't carrying mud.
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NW Ohio,near Findlay | a newer TD 20B with winch weighed 44,000 lbs. Parts are going to be a problem, sorry. |
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Western Iowa | Are you sure?
I have a 20E that once had the V800, but now has an M11 in it. I was thinking that was the only 20 with the V8.
Before I bought this one I looked at a 20B or 20C in the weeds that had a very large straight 6 in it, around 800 cubes if I recall....
I sure am not 100% on anything but the 20E though...... I do also know the 20G had a L10 cummins from the factory. That is where I stole a bellhousing for my conversion. |
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Chesterville, Ontario, Canada | check here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6y91cl8bqpmjd3c/VID_20140521_144843.mp4?dl... |
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Saranac, Michigan | Been a long time but The TD 20 we had was about the same weight as our D7F. Lighter than our old D7E. The E was around 43,000
The engine was similar to our Hough 90Es but don,t know if cranked out as much hp. |
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Eastern North Carolina | Sodbustr - 11/27/2016 17:14
Are you sure?
I have a 20E that once had the V800, but now has an M11 in it. I was thinking that was the only 20 with the V8.
Before I bought this one I looked at a 20B or 20C in the weeds that had a very large straight 6 in it, around 800 cubes if I recall....
I sure am not 100% on anything but the 20E though...... I do also know the 20G had a L10 cummins from the factory. That is where I stole a bellhousing for my conversion.
My error.... TD-20C had a DVT-573 V8 engine, not the V800. V800 was in the "E" series.
TD-25 ran the DTI-817 engine inline 6, same as the 4300 tractor except the dozer was intercooled
Thinking back, the DT-466 had been swapped out of a TD-15 and into the 20C, the 466 engine made for a nice tractor.
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| I have td 20e that the previous owner put a remote valve on and we use it on tile plow and it works alot better on it then the tractors we own. Dont think we have ever had a pull tractor on it. |
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SW Ohio | I'd recommend getting a pull type plow and putting a power unit on it. That way when that dozer dies or you want to upgrade etc you won't have to fool with swapping plumbing/valves etc. Making brackets for a mounted plow and custom configuring/installing pumps on output shafts on a real old open center dozer costs a lot of time and money and you seem like one that likes to save. Just my opinion but speaking from personal experience here. |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | warpspeed - 11/28/2016 15:26
I'd recommend getting a pull type plow and putting a power unit on it. That way when that dozer dies or you want to upgrade etc you won't have to fool with swapping plumbing/valves etc. Making brackets for a mounted plow and custom configuring/installing pumps on output shafts on a real old open center dozer costs a lot of time and money and you seem like one that likes to save. Just my opinion but speaking from personal experience here.
I agree!
Im not buying anything that mounts to only one machine. A pull type sounds a lot more farmer friendly. The dozer WILL one day blow up, and I want to hook something else back up to the plow and keep on working. |
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| Hello: I read about olivetroad TD 20 and sent him a email to inquire if he would consider selling the 2 spool winch that is on his tractor. Upon reading your comment you mention that you have a complete cable unit in your barn. Will your cable unit fit a TD 20 and would you consider selling it. [email protected]. Juel Furuseth. |
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| Hello: Looking at the picture of your TD 20 I see it has a 2 spool cable winch. Would you con sider selling the winch from the tractor? [email protected]. Juel Furuseth. |
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| Hello Larry,
Upon looking for a two spool cable control unit for my TD 20, I saw olivetroads post from 2016. In that post you responded that you have a complete cable control unit in your barn. Would this fit my TD 20 and if so, would you consider selling it? Thank you.
Juel Furuseth
[email protected]
Cellphone: 701-367-7481 |
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Using a TD20 Ihc dozer for tile plow? What does it weigh?
