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Machinery Pete
Posted 10/31/2016 20:12 (#5611055)
Subject: Pull Type Combines


The pic below of a John Deere 9501 pull type combine was sent to me today from Manitoba....here's look at auction sale prices I've seen over the years on JD 7701, JD 7721, JD 6601, CaseIH 1682 and IHC 1482 pull type combines:

https://www.machinerypete.com/media_posts/pull-type-combines

Pete





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CMA
Posted 10/31/2016 20:22 (#5611099 - in reply to #5611055)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines


Redickville, Ont
Looks pretty like to have the big brother to ours just for fun.



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Oliver Farmer In MI
Posted 10/31/2016 21:09 (#5611239 - in reply to #5611055)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines


I agree, always find these very interesting.
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Jon Hagen
Posted 10/31/2016 22:04 (#5611401 - in reply to #5611055)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines



Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND
So much threshing capacity for so little money, but their kind of lame for anything but harvesting windrows.
I harvested many thousands of acres with IH 914 and 1482 combines. When direct cutting with the small headers available, it's hard to load the big ones to capacity at any sane harvest speed.

We worked a 1480 SP and a 1482 PT direct cutting as long as both were on the same field. The SP combine would open the field and cut it into blocks that were easier to manage with the long clumsy tractor and PT combine.



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Big Ben
Posted 10/31/2016 22:43 (#5611478 - in reply to #5611401)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA
Jon Hagen - 10/31/2016 20:04

So much threshing capacity for so little money, but their kind of lame for anything but harvesting windrows.
I harvested many thousands of acres with IH 914 and 1482 combines. When direct cutting with the small headers available, it's hard to load the big ones to capacity at any sane harvest speed.

We worked a 1480 SP and a 1482 PT direct cutting as long as both were on the same field. The SP combine would open the field and cut it into blocks that were easier to manage with the long clumsy tractor and PT combine.


We did a little direct cutting of wheat with a 1682 alongside a 9600 for a year. The PT worked great, and wasn't too difficult to keep full in 130+ bushel irrigated wheat. The PT combines are best in windrows though.

If I could pick up another 14 or 1682 locally as cheap as they're going in the northern plains, I'd set one up to combine edible beans.

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Jon Hagen
Posted 10/31/2016 23:31 (#5611520 - in reply to #5611478)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines



Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND
Big Ben - 10/31/2016 22:43

Jon Hagen - 10/31/2016 20:04

So much threshing capacity for so little money, but their kind of lame for anything but harvesting windrows.
I harvested many thousands of acres with IH 914 and 1482 combines. When direct cutting with the small headers available, it's hard to load the big ones to capacity at any sane harvest speed.

We worked a 1480 SP and a 1482 PT direct cutting as long as both were on the same field. The SP combine would open the field and cut it into blocks that were easier to manage with the long clumsy tractor and PT combine.


We did a little direct cutting of wheat with a 1682 alongside a 9600 for a year. The PT worked great, and wasn't too difficult to keep full in 130+ bushel irrigated wheat. The PT combines are best in windrows though.

If I could pick up another 14 or 1682 locally as cheap as they're going in the northern plains, I'd set one up to combine edible beans.





Using a cheap PT combine to harvest pinto beans was / is common here in ND, the rocks and dirt wear them out pretty fast, but it can be replaced for 1or2 thousand dollars.
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 10/31/2016 23:48 (#5611534 - in reply to #5611055)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines


just a tish NE of central ND
I HAVE never seen or even heard 0f a 9501jd!!
I thought the 7721 was the last pull type JD ever made in a pull type!
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KDK Herefords
Posted 11/1/2016 08:41 (#5611836 - in reply to #5611055)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines


East Central, IA
Here is an old one that I sold last week for a consignment customer. It had a Massey Ferguson data plate, but Massey Harris decals. It was in excellent shape and is going to a collector in Oklahoma. Hated to see it go so cheap, but it was a really interesting piece to sell.

http://www.auctiontime.com/OnlineAuctions/Details.aspx?ohid=1084345...
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pudamobile
Posted 11/1/2016 09:36 (#5611911 - in reply to #5611478)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines


Finley, ND
Big Ben - 10/31/2016 22:43


We did a little direct cutting of wheat with a 1682 alongside a 9600 for a year. The PT worked great, and wasn't too difficult to keep full in 130+ bushel irrigated wheat. The PT combines are best in windrows though.

If I could pick up another 14 or 1682 locally as cheap as they're going in the northern plains, I'd set one up to combine edible beans.



I picked my 1482 up this summer to pick up Barley swaths....500 bucks at a local sale. Works good.

Edited by pudamobile 11/1/2016 09:37




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willvr
Posted 11/1/2016 10:47 (#5611993 - in reply to #5611055)
Subject: how about Versatile


Bow Island, Alberta
Here's some photos from one at a sale a few years ago.



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Jon Hagen
Posted 11/1/2016 11:02 (#5612008 - in reply to #5611993)
Subject: RE: how about Versatile



Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND
willvr - 11/1/2016 10:47

Here's some photos from one at a sale a few years ago.



I used a little Versy 42 for a few seasons, the only combine I have seen that used screw augers instead of paddle elevators for clean grain and return elevators.
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jdbob8100
Posted 11/1/2016 12:02 (#5612071 - in reply to #5612008)
Subject: RE: how about Versatile


ND
Know of a JD 7721 if anyone is looking for one less pickup head.
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clevepreach
Posted 11/1/2016 12:43 (#5612129 - in reply to #5611055)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines



Cleveland, MS. Own small farm near Booneville, MS

It would appear to me that if you could put a big enough head on one to get full capacity out of it that would be the way to go. One less engine, drive train, etc. to maintain.

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German Shepherd
Posted 11/1/2016 15:37 (#5612266 - in reply to #5612008)
Subject: RE: how about Versatile


Two of my uncles had the sp version, a 420 Versey.    I remember those augers instead of chains and paddles.   No feeder chain either.

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Jon Hagen
Posted 11/1/2016 17:53 (#5612378 - in reply to #5612266)
Subject: RE: how about Versatile



Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND
Sheep Herder - 11/1/2016 15:37

Two of my uncles had the sp version, a 420 Versey.    I remember those augers instead of chains and paddles.   No feeder chain either.






That's right, I did not remember that about no feeder chain !! They had a paddle impeller setup a bit like that in a 750 MF.
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SSG
Posted 11/1/2016 18:16 (#5612406 - in reply to #5611055)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines


NW ND
I had a White 8650 for several years but don't like to admit it.
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DanR
Posted 11/1/2016 23:42 (#5613082 - in reply to #5612406)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines


SW Sask
In SW Sask, we always ran PT combines. All hard red spring wheat and durum, all swathed. I don't remember how old I was when I first saw a bin with aeration or a grain dryer....

Anyway: grandpa ran CCIL (Coop Implements, made in Winnipeg) 960s. Dad used to joke that he knew three Coop dealers in any direction, because the chance of any one dealer having the parts you need was pretty slim... (of course, that was before online parts catalogs and cell phones...)

The next step up was an MF 8650. In fact, dad wasn't happy with the first one, so he tried a second. He said it was incredible at eating crop - he said that he was never able to find anything that would plug it. He also said it was easy to set - you could throw grain over the sieves, the straw walkers, or both... (his point being that you couldn't set it to save grain :-)

At that time, late 1970s, early 1980s, everything here was cropped 50/50 rotation with tillage summerfallow, and 25 bu/ac was an average crop. So throwing 1 bu/ac over was a big deal.

When that beloved (not) machine went down the road, a Massey 851 replaced it. That wound up being the last combine we had, and it ran for many, many years with very little trouble, and doing a fine job!

Neighbours ran 914 IHCs (an ok machine, a few character flaws, but no worse than anything else), JD 7721 (often referred to as part of the 'long green line', in reference to the volunteer grain in swaths the year after a harvest.....but I'd argue that was more about operator than machine). And there were a few 1482s around. In those days, few people had a primary tractor with PTO and powershift, so the rotaries got a bad reputation early on, as they were less forgiving of inconsistent feeding. We have plenty of rolling hills, and the volume of crop through the combine can change a lot between the low spots and the hill tops. The walker machines seemed to work more consistently in those conditions - the rotaries tended to throw over some grain if overloaded or underloaded, so that was a gear-grinding exercise to be shifting all the time....

danr
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Big Ben
Posted 11/2/2016 09:15 (#5613562 - in reply to #5613082)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA
DanR - 11/1/2016 21:42

Neighbours ran 914 IHCs (an ok machine, a few character flaws, but no worse than anything else), JD 7721 (often referred to as part of the 'long green line', in reference to the volunteer grain in swaths the year after a harvest.....but I'd argue that was more about operator than machine). And there were a few 1482s around. In those days, few people had a primary tractor with PTO and powershift, so the rotaries got a bad reputation early on, as they were less forgiving of inconsistent feeding. We have plenty of rolling hills, and the volume of crop through the combine can change a lot between the low spots and the hill tops. The walker machines seemed to work more consistently in those conditions - the rotaries tended to throw over some grain if overloaded or underloaded, so that was a gear-grinding exercise to be shifting all the time....

danr


They came on to the scene a little too late, but CVT/IVT transmissions were the best thing that ever happened to PT combines.

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Jon Hagen
Posted 11/2/2016 20:40 (#5614814 - in reply to #5613562)
Subject: RE: Pull Type Combines



Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND
Big Ben - 11/2/2016 09:15

DanR - 11/1/2016 21:42

Neighbours ran 914 IHCs (an ok machine, a few character flaws, but no worse than anything else), JD 7721 (often referred to as part of the 'long green line', in reference to the volunteer grain in swaths the year after a harvest.....but I'd argue that was more about operator than machine). And there were a few 1482s around. In those days, few people had a primary tractor with PTO and powershift, so the rotaries got a bad reputation early on, as they were less forgiving of inconsistent feeding. We have plenty of rolling hills, and the volume of crop through the combine can change a lot between the low spots and the hill tops. The walker machines seemed to work more consistently in those conditions - the rotaries tended to throw over some grain if overloaded or underloaded, so that was a gear-grinding exercise to be shifting all the time....

danr


They came on to the scene a little too late, but CVT/IVT transmissions were the best thing that ever happened to PT combines.




That's where we loved our old 1950T and 2150 Olivers with over & under hydropower on the PT combines. With the 6 speed trans and 3 speed over / direct/ under hydropower, you had 3 shift on the fly gears in each transmission gear, for 18 speeds total. They would get you from the poor yielding dry hilltops ,across the high yielding low spots without over / under loading either combine or tractor. The best thing next to a modern IVT.
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