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mosinee dave
Posted 10/7/2016 16:56 (#5569348)
Subject: Old john deere pull type choppers?


Mosinee Wi
Would any one remember the no of the pull type JD choppers that were made in the 50,s or 60,s. My dad had a 1 row and the blower and knives were driven with a flat belt. I am thinking it was a no 5 or a 6 ? Wanting buy one for my collection
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olwhda
Posted 10/7/2016 17:11 (#5569361 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


Liberty, MO
Sorry don't remember for sure but thinking 5, neighbor had one pulled by a souped up "G", it hit so hard every time it popped it would break chains. Whenever something else was used it worked fine.
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teach84
Posted 10/7/2016 17:44 (#5569396 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


west-byGod-Pa.
if I may suggest: check out Lancaster Farming: the paper has a very large classified section. Plus, Amish post there. I assume it is way out of your district, but may find what you are looking for
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martin
Posted 10/7/2016 17:59 (#5569415 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


Here's a video showing a JD No 12 forage cutter

Here's a brochure on Ebay for a JD No 6 forage harvester

 

Does this help?

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Greywolf
Posted 10/7/2016 18:13 (#5569431 - in reply to #5569415)
Subject: I think they might be too new



Aberdeen MS
for what he is thinking.

I don't remember the number of the JD chopper we had, but used it up to late 60's. When we got the 930 case in 66 we upgraded to a 2 row IH chopper.

I can see everything of the chopper we had except the number. I'm not even sure there a number on the paint anymore to be honest.

Bigger blower like a silo fill blower, the knives bolted to the arms of the paddles.
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Aaron SEIA
Posted 10/7/2016 18:14 (#5569432 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


There is a guy here that has one for sale. If I get a chance, I'll snap a picture or two of it for you. If memory serves, it has a reel on it, so it may be a green chopper with a sickle. Located in New London, IA.
AaronSEIA
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mosinee dave
Posted 10/7/2016 19:01 (#5569499 - in reply to #5569432)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


Mosinee Wi
Yes take a pic and get a price if you would please
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Steiger Man
Posted 10/7/2016 19:51 (#5569578 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


Sunburst Montana
No 8 was made in the 50s.
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RickB
Posted 10/7/2016 20:01 (#5569594 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?



Lincoln County. NC
Don MacMillen's wonderful book John Deere Tractors and Equipment Vol I lists an unnamed model of pull type forage harvester for use in corn introduced in 1936. In 1942 the 62 (pickup head) 64,(corn head) and 66 (direct cut grass sickle head) were introduced. #8 followed in 1952. The smaller #6 and larger #12 came next in the mid to late 1950's and are pictured with captions 1958 and 1959.

I'd almost forgotten having this book; thanks for giving me a reason to dig it out.
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 10/7/2016 20:07 (#5569603 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


just a tish NE of central ND
Oh man,OH MAN>>>>> youre a couple years too late,I could have provided you with two #6s', one with 2 row and one with pickup head. Both the scrapper got. And they were in quite nice useable shape yet. Sort of a shame but no one here wanted them.... I believe they were made in 1956 or so. # 6 used a v belt. Im thinking that the #5 used a flat belt.Not sure about the flat belt though.
https://www.amazon.com/Deere-Forage-Harvester-Owners-Manual/dp/B006Z...
They are flywheel type cutterhead machines. Knives are in front of the flywheel and paddles on the outside perimiter,they blow the silage up the spout. 2 spring loaded feed rolls on top and one smooth roll just ahead of the shear bar on the bottom.Ahead of that is an apron chain that runs beneath the row units and the elevators feed the rolls/ apron chain.The chopper had a forward and reverse gearbox and a sloppy pattended excentric type of a pitman that ran a sickle through a seris of troublesome ball joint drives that absoultly sucked to lay under and fix or even grease. since the hydraulics didnt lift the row units very high off of the ground.

Edited by School Of Hard Knock 10/7/2016 23:13
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WJKEIGER
Posted 10/7/2016 20:07 (#5569605 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


nw NC
JD No. 64 had a flat belt driven flywheel . Flat pulleys and belt were in front of the flywheel cutter housing . JD No. 6 & 12 had drive sheaves behind the flywheel cutter housing .
My father bought ( used ) a JD No. 64 chopper in the mid to late 50's. He pulled it with a Co-op E3 ( Cockshutt 30 ) until 1967 when he bought a 1967 International 504. Used it another year or two then he got a used JD No. 6 . JD No. 6 ( usually a one row) and No. 12 ( usually a two row) (both built same years) had a near two inch wide V- belt on large sheaves.
Both machines still here in the woods.

There was also a no. 8 but I do not know when it came along in the JD production line.




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WJKEIGER
Posted 10/7/2016 20:33 (#5569661 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


nw NC
Here is a picture I downloaded from YTMag. Link to forum post .... http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=harvest&th=... Guy called it a 74 but our old 64 looks just like the picture .



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kzks
Posted 10/7/2016 21:08 (#5569730 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


Those type of choppers are called CUT AND THROW if I remember correctly
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olwhda
Posted 10/7/2016 21:19 (#5569755 - in reply to #5569730)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


Liberty, MO
That looks like the neighbors chopper and I was wrong on the model number. The flywheel had knives as well as paddles to blow silage in the wagon. That flat belt required a little belt dressing to work right.
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baler brian
Posted 10/7/2016 21:42 (#5569807 - in reply to #5569730)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?



They are a flywheel cut.

A cut and throw uses the knives to throw the forage.
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JFDairy
Posted 10/7/2016 22:28 (#5569889 - in reply to #5569807)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


middle TN
Cut and throw would be more like the 34 Deere choppers and 717? NH choppers. My neighbor has an old AC chopper, don't have a clue as to the model #, but it is a wide cutterhead and no blower. The knives threw the material to the wagon. We ran an old 34, best corn crop I ever chopped was with it, 1 row, corn 3 feet taller than 716 JD wagons with roofs. It was good corn, I skipped school to plant it, and laid out of school to chop it when I was about 14-15 yrs old. I remember chopping at night, ran out of fuel when I had 2 rows left in the 15 acre field, but got the tractor bled out and finished that night. Good times:)

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TWB
Posted 10/8/2016 06:39 (#5570085 - in reply to #5569889)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


What model tractor was you chopping with ?
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WJKEIGER
Posted 10/8/2016 10:12 (#5570476 - in reply to #5569661)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


nw NC
Here is a picture of the JD 64 on our farm. It has different angle steel bracing than the one pictured in my post above. ( In foreground is the windrow pick-up head for it). Ours , like the one pictured in post above, had a spout that could be used either to the side or to the rear by unbolting it and reinstalling it to the direction desired. Not quick to change and it was rigid to the rear so not able to shift it side to side. When it was to the rear it was bad to plug the spout due to the abrupt direction change and resulting slowing of the flow of silage coming out of the cutter housing. To the side it was no problem. Dad removed the bolt on spout from the 64 and replaced it with a spout from a junked JD no. 8 he found somewhere. He had a local welder mount the spout transition piece from the no. 8 flywheel cutter housing onto the 64. The no. 8 spout could be easily redirected by simply removing a pin and shoving the spout to direction desired. The no. 8 spout looked like the no. 6 spout.



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Bonanza
Posted 10/9/2016 14:07 (#5572296 - in reply to #5569348)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


Ne Nebraska
We had a #6. Still have the hay pickup head for it out in the trees- don't think it was ever used or if so, very little.
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nosoup4u
Posted 10/10/2016 11:08 (#5573895 - in reply to #5572296)
Subject: RE: Old john deere pull type choppers?


You might call Green Magazine, they did an article on the history of them a couple of years ago.
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