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Floyd County, Iowa | I use the clutch pedal just as if it was a regular gearshift transmission- when I start movement and when I stop, and when going from reverse to forward, etc.
Been told by neighbor (he has 8x20 & 8x30) that I don't need to use the clutch pedal. I tried it a few times, but it seems too harsh without the pedal.
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West Central IL | No clutch I believe is the proper way. I think the clutch is more of an inching pedal and not so much a clutch in powershift/it transmissions. |
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Sunburst Montana | I never use the clutch unless I am hooking up. When I start out I bump the lever down to about 2 or 3 instead of starting out in 8th like it wants you to. |
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Central Wisconsin | If the shift is too harsh without the clutch your transmission could used a calibration run on it. |
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The middle of Maryland's Eastern Shore | I use the clutch like you do oldbones |
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Floyd County, Iowa | The shift between gears is fine (well, except from 4th to 5th, and 12th to 13th is good at 1300rpm and after warmed up).
It's from neutral to either forward or reverse that is usually harsh- it goes from stop to go.
Suppose I could get into the habit of shifting down to 5th before sliding into N or P.
edit: This is a 1996 8100, (not a 20 or 30 series), in case that makes a difference.
Edited by oldbones 8/10/2016 20:52
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SE MN | I see no reason not to use the clutch if that is how you like to do it, the manual doesn't say the clutch should not be used this way (8030 series manual anyway). Just make sure you don't ride it. Push it fully down and then let it fully out without spending any extra time in the middle. It needs to be pushed in all the way to disengage. That's probably why the buzzers go crazy if you try do something like topping off a truck with a grain cart by riding the clutch. On a cart, you should put it in low gear and pop it in and out of gear. I prefer to use the clutch pedal like you do most of the time in 8000 series tractors. |
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Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells | Wasn't until 8010s come out that you could have a JD Tec calibrate the shifting with a computer.
Dan |
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Lincoln, North Dakota | oldbones - 8/10/2016 20:50
The shift between gears is fine (well, except from 4th to 5th, and 12th to 13th is good at 1300rpm and after warmed up).
It's from neutral to either forward or reverse that is usually harsh- it goes from stop to go.
Suppose I could get into the habit of shifting down to 5th before sliding into N or P.
edit: This is a 1996 8100, (not a 20 or 30 series), in case that makes a difference.
I'd have to look up the address number but I think you can change what gear you start out in.
Edited by thorfarms 8/10/2016 22:12
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south east SD | Had a 8300 on the planter and cart, would get a alarm once in a while. Bought a 8260R and the service manager pulled me aside and said never use the clutch/inching pedal at all on the grain cart. He said that's his most calls with farmers with R tractors. They will throw codes and shut down transmission. Says the clutch creates heat and shuts down faster on new stuff. 4 different people run our cart, told them no clutch, bump shift lever only and didn't have any trouble. |
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Se wisc. | Well that may be the right way but shifting into gear with auger full on grain cart in either forward or reverse must be very hard on poor old cart. Especially with RPM's high. |
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south east SD | Grhog - 8/10/2016 22:02
Well that may be the right way but shifting into gear with auger full on grain cart in either forward or reverse must be very hard on poor old cart. Especially with RPM's high.
RPM's are up, above 1500. But it doesn't slam into gear, you slip it in and out fairly fast. There is no bang at the hitch pin when going one direction. Once you get the hang of it, it's not bad at all. The cart is a 1000 bushel J&M. We can fill a semi on one trip, better when we do half. Less weight on the cart across the field. Like anything practice make better!! |
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Sunnyside, WA | No need to ever use the clutch on an 8000 unless you are trying to "inch" to hook up. |
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NW Iowa. / SW Arizona | DB Tracks - 8/10/2016 21:17
Wasn't until 8010s come out that you could have a JD Tec calibrate the shifting with a computer.
Dan
Not true, sometime after I bought my 1998 8300 I took it over to Buster 50's place as he was having one of his tractors calibrated at the time by a JD mechanic. One of Buster's neighbors also brought his what I believe was a 1995 8300 over to have it calibrated.
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I forgot to mention as to the OP question I probably use my clutch 95% of the time if not more just out of habit but I know I wouldn't have to. I do the same with my 8120 and 7130. You know the saying "It's hard to teach old dogs new tricks" :-).
Edited by IowaMark 8/11/2016 03:40
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Southern Pa. | thorfarms - 8/10/2016 23:01
oldbones - 8/10/2016 20:50
The shift between gears is fine (well, except from 4th to 5th, and 12th to 13th is good at 1300rpm and after warmed up).
It's from neutral to either forward or reverse that is usually harsh- it goes from stop to go.
Suppose I could get into the habit of shifting down to 5th before sliding into N or P.
edit: This is a 1996 8100, (not a 20 or 30 series), in case that makes a difference.
I'd have to look up the address number but I think you can change what gear you start out in.
Yes, you should be able to change the setting if you consistently want to start out in a lower gear. You should also be able to recalibrate the transmission as well, which may improve shifting characteristics. |
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Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells | I was told wrong then by the Tec as we have 4 - 8010s that we have calibrated every year, he said cannot fine tune the transmission on the 8000s like the 8010s.
Edited by DB Tracks 8/11/2016 04:40
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Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn. | DB Tracks - 8/11/2016 03:38
I was told wrong then by the Tec as we have 4 - 8010s that we have calibrated every year, he said cannot fine tune the transmission on the 8000s like the 8010s.
I have my 8310 in for routine maintenance now. The transmission has never been calibrated. I asked about calibrating it and they said no need unless I'd been having problems.
I was having trouble getting it to shift sometimes. That turned out to be real simple. Apparently there is a magnet in the power shift lever. When you move the short stick, it moves a sensor by the magnet. The bolts holding the magnet had vibrated out and one of them was still lying there in the housing.
I did have them replace the belts, idler and dampener. Also pulled the valve cover to adjust the engine valves. This is at 6000 hours. I had changed the oil in the front hubs and anti-freeze this Spring. Anything else I should have done? |
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Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn. | thorfarms - 8/10/2016 21:01
oldbones - 8/10/2016 20:50
The shift between gears is fine (well, except from 4th to 5th, and 12th to 13th is good at 1300rpm and after warmed up).
It's from neutral to either forward or reverse that is usually harsh- it goes from stop to go.
Suppose I could get into the habit of shifting down to 5th before sliding into N or P.
edit: This is a 1996 8100, (not a 20 or 30 series), in case that makes a difference.
I'd have to look up the address number but I think you can change what gear you start out in.
I was going to mention this as well. Mine 8310 is set to start out in 7th and Reverse 2 from a cold start. Otherwise it goes back to the gear you used last at least in the lower gears. This works fine for me.
As I recall, there is a Reverse 4 but most have that blocked out as it is really not needed except for special situations. If needed, it can be unblocked.
Edited by tedbear 8/11/2016 06:08
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Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells | I had lower back surgery in 1999, so my back is very sensetive to jerking from shifting, smother the better. Brother does all the mech and service work here along with our sons helping, but I,m the one that wants the power shifts calibrated ever year, just so everyone knows.
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NW Iowa. / SW Arizona | I've never had back surgery but have had back problems since 1989 so I know full well where you're coming from. I wouldn't mind having mine calibrated more often but I'm to cheap to hire a mechanic to do it :-(. |
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Use clutch or not? JD 8100
