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brenmer
Posted 7/28/2016 21:45 (#5438077)
Subject: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


WC Indiana
I thought it made sense to try and minimize the ear kernel loss with the quad suspension deck plates and improved automatic deck plate opening. Looking forward to getting this Drago GT in the field. Just got it delivered today.

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ajrod88
Posted 7/28/2016 21:52 (#5438102 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


Virginia
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mhredman
Posted 7/28/2016 22:01 (#5438121 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



North Central Iowa
I hear ya lol



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johnny skeptical
Posted 7/28/2016 22:02 (#5438124 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



n.c.iowa

gonna print off a copy to put under my pillow until ours shows up.

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PJB
Posted 7/28/2016 22:10 (#5438138 - in reply to #5438121)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


Hardin County, Iowa
That looks like a 6 row 30" head. How do you get along running duals? Paul
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Steiger Man
Posted 7/28/2016 22:12 (#5438149 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


Sunburst Montana

Are Case combines that worthless now? Or is that header super super expensive?  I'm not very knowledgeable about corn headers out here in wheat country.  We did run a JD 936D on a 1981 8820 one time.  That was another situation were the header was worth more then the combine. 

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mhredman
Posted 7/28/2016 22:15 (#5438156 - in reply to #5438138)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



North Central Iowa
New to me combine. The singles are in the shed, Haven't put them on yet
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hobby95
Posted 7/28/2016 22:20 (#5438166 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


SW MINNESOTA
Been thinking really hard about trading my series 1 drago for one. Anyone care to share what you actually got them bought for. Email is good. Thanks
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brenmer
Posted 7/28/2016 22:33 (#5438194 - in reply to #5438166)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


WC Indiana
I traded my Drago series 1 for this one. This is a 12 row non chopping head and it was was around $90,000 before trade.
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haybstr67
Posted 7/28/2016 22:37 (#5438201 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


NE SD
What's your experience with drago? I have been considering a used one, or a 608 JD. Have people telling me the drago is better! Is it?
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johnny skeptical
Posted 7/28/2016 22:38 (#5438203 - in reply to #5438194)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



n.c.iowa

boy.....I hope our head comes with a tube of k-y.






































not really, sometimes the implement guys we bought the head from read this forum. heh

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johnny skeptical
Posted 7/28/2016 22:44 (#5438224 - in reply to #5438201)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



n.c.iowa

the gt's are new for '16. so as of yet are unproven in the field.   but they been developing it for four years.  rode in a combine last fall that had a gt twin chop head on it. was hard to find a reason to hate it.   they were harvesting a field of highly variable corn( gravel pit, to the heaviest ground we have locally) in the same round.  can't say much about the I's and II's.

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yieldpro69
Posted 7/28/2016 22:50 (#5438233 - in reply to #5438121)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


Kossuth County, Iowa
Where did you get the combine? Looks like our old one
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brenmer
Posted 7/28/2016 22:50 (#5438234 - in reply to #5438201)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


WC Indiana
I can't speak for the 608 head but the Drago wear items last much longer than the Case heads. I hadn't touched my old one in 3 years except for routine maintenance. They are very good heads for getting an early start in the morning and still feed great. They do require more routine maintenance such as a thorough cleaning at the end of harvest to clean trash out of units. You will also need to make sure the Deck plates are free every year before you start.
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mhredman
Posted 7/28/2016 22:50 (#5438235 - in reply to #5438203)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



North Central Iowa
Johnny, there is a real nice plastic manual holder on back of head, I better look in the bottom of it on my 6 row also, maybe that is where our dealer hides the k-y.....
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mhredman
Posted 7/28/2016 23:03 (#5438254 - in reply to #5438234)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



North Central Iowa
+1 on wear, the one i traded in,ran it 9 years and adjusted the gathering chains twice. Sprockets showed little to no wear. If done the same acres on my old 1000 series head would have went thru 3 sets of gathering chains and 4 sets of lower sprockets(geez those things were junk)
I know I dont run alot of acres compared to some of you but my comparison to what I said about my experience with a 1000 series head is real. Never replaced any wear parts except for the chopper knives once in 9 years on my series 1 Drago.
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mhredman
Posted 7/28/2016 23:19 (#5438274 - in reply to #5438233)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



North Central Iowa
A neighbor few miles away traded it to a Deere Dealer. Think he had it for 6 or 7 years. He had bought it from Bancroft Red Power back then. Its a 2003

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yieldpro69
Posted 7/28/2016 23:21 (#5438278 - in reply to #5438274)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


Kossuth County, Iowa
Okay. Looked like ours we traded at Bancroft. I love 2388s. That looks like it has been taken care of. I'm sure you'll be happy with the cornhead too.
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 7/28/2016 23:57 (#5438309 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


just a tish NE of central ND
Nothing new..... my 1083 corn head worth about twice what my 1480 that rus it is worth. (LOL)and both are old peices of equipment.
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GM Guy
Posted 7/29/2016 00:23 (#5438324 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


NW KS/ SC ID
After riding along with the owner of a new-to-him Medium aged Drago (poly snout, but non-GT or Series II) I am sold. :) It will be a decade or two before our operation could ever afford one though. :) IMO the only stock cornhead that comes close on kernel savings is our Gleaner heads, but with the keystock on the deck plates, a guy has to be careful to get the speed right, if its super dry and you have the header wound out, it will butt shell.
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MJD02
Posted 7/29/2016 06:31 (#5438412 - in reply to #5438149)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


West River, SD
Steiger Man - 7/28/2016 22:12

Are Case combines that worthless now? Or is that header super super expensive?  . 



Just always out to trash red machinery and brag up JD 8630s, lol!
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dpilot83
Posted 7/29/2016 07:13 (#5438476 - in reply to #5438324)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



Can you change sprockets on the left side to slow it down further than stock?

My Challenger head on my S67 was butt shelling like crazy last year even though the variable speed on the feederhouse was slowed all the way down.
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swne
Posted 7/29/2016 07:35 (#5438518 - in reply to #5438476)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska
I would think you could change the sprockets. I sped one up one time by doing that. Don't see why you couldn't slow one down.
We went from an 8 row head and running it kind of fast, well ok, pretty fast, to a 12 row head and running it on the slow speed most of the time and it made a noticeable difference in the kernel loss.
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smallchev
Posted 7/29/2016 08:08 (#5438585 - in reply to #5438476)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


sw mn
Yes i know agco lists atleast one if not two smaller sprockets to slow the head down. Can also change auger drive sprocket to get that dialed in better. I sped my auger one up and slowed the rest of the head down. It seemed like the factory setting was just too fast for the speed we combine at. Made a big difference in butt shelling in dry corn.
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Cliff SEIA
Posted 7/29/2016 10:24 (#5438838 - in reply to #5438324)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


We tried a drago side by side with our old 963 several years, picked every other pass in 3 fields then unhooked our head and put the dragon on and picked the rest. After several hours of kernel counting there was zero difference in kernels on the ground. Our intention was to have numbers to prove to dad and the banker that we could justify a new corn head, it backfired and we are still running a 30 year old corn head.
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fuzzy
Posted 7/29/2016 10:40 (#5438861 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


WCIN
Did you by chance eat at the 36 saloon in Rockville yesterday? Saw an identical head behind a ford truck in the parking lot

Ps. Not a creepy stalker :)

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dpilot83
Posted 7/29/2016 10:46 (#5438879 - in reply to #5438838)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



That reminds me of a story that's totally unrelated to this thread.

When I was in college and I thought I needed a motorcycle I was trying to talk my parents into loaning the money for me to buy a motorcycle so I could save money on gas. Well, I never got to the point where I actually talked to them about it because doing the math made me realize I had to travel about a gazillion miles per year without getting run over to make the difference in gas pay for the motorcycle in a reasonable amount of time.
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tmrand
Posted 7/29/2016 11:09 (#5438914 - in reply to #5438879)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



Southeast Colorado
But it's a motorcycle man.........surely you could have come up with some other good justification!
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Cliff SEIA
Posted 7/29/2016 11:12 (#5438918 - in reply to #5438879)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


I'm amazed by how many people will use the gas savings as a reason to spend $10,000 to trade vehicles when the insurance increase alone probably wipes out the gas savings.
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Steiger Man
Posted 7/29/2016 13:16 (#5439115 - in reply to #5438412)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


Sunburst Montana

It was a serious question.  That combine isn't very old.  If it was a 2388 then I could see the header being worth more then the combine.  There was over 20 years separating our 936D from our 8820. 

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brenmer
Posted 7/29/2016 16:00 (#5439344 - in reply to #5438861)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


WC Indiana
The Drago Indiana dealer probably ate there with my used head in tow.
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MJD02
Posted 7/29/2016 18:31 (#5439610 - in reply to #5439115)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


West River, SD
Whatever you say, dude
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Wheat77
Posted 7/29/2016 18:36 (#5439617 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: Yes, you are correct.


brenmer - 7/28/2016 21:45

I thought it made sense to try and minimize the ear kernel loss with the quad suspension deck plates and improved automatic deck plate opening. Looking forward to getting this Drago GT in the field. Just got it delivered today.


There is no corn head that good. Are you having tax problems, lots of nice heads available at bargain prices
now, with sub $3.50 corn.
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johnny skeptical
Posted 7/29/2016 18:49 (#5439644 - in reply to #5439617)
Subject: RE: Yes, you are correct.



n.c.iowa

this one might be...

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steincowboy
Posted 7/29/2016 18:57 (#5439656 - in reply to #5438077)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


God's Country (N.C. Ia)
Am I the only one who sees the whole deckplate shock absorbsion system plugging with fm in the first 10 acres rendering it ineffective? I had watched some of the videos of this new series head and that's the first thing that came to my mind. Looks like something an overpaid citiot engineer dreamt up on his cad program without any real world experience, but hey, it's your 95k I guess! Hope y'all are impressed!
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johnny skeptical
Posted 7/29/2016 19:24 (#5439696 - in reply to #5439656)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?



n.c.iowa

well, that was kinda rude.

that was and still is my concern, so we will see, I personally know at least one of the individuals that tested and helped design this head. if he says it's good, I believe him.

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hobby95
Posted 7/30/2016 00:44 (#5440228 - in reply to #5439656)
Subject: RE: Am I stupid to have this new Drago GT cornhead that is worth more than my combine?


SW MINNESOTA
The same kind of thing has been said about the automatic deck plates on the older heads. After nine seasons on my old head with a little pre and post season cleaning and maintenance it's a non issue.
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