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southwest in | if you had to pick one, which would you choose?
case 1570
ac 7080
white 2-180
any experiences with any of these? thanks |
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Tuscola, IL | Don't know how it compares to the other two because I've never been around them, but the 1570 was an absolute horse in its day. |
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north east ohio in the snow belt Ashtabula co | 7080 allis hands down !!! |
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| That's quite a pageant. I'd pick the White. I like the over/under transmission. I got to use a 180 one Spring that had a cat 3208 in it. It would be hard to find any of those contestants in too original of a condition at this juncture. I think the 1570 was last made in 77' and the 7080 in 81'. I don't remember when the series 111 Whites were last made.....I am thinking about mid 80's. I ran into the widow of a retired farmer who had kept his 1570. It was in mint condition. She couldn't bear to sell it. He had asked her to be buried in it because he had said he had never encountered a hole it couldn't get him out of. While she didn't have him buried in it, she didn't part with it. |
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Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells | We owned both 1370 and 7050 in the 80s, 1370 was 10x better tractor than the 7050. When the 7050 was running, it burned more fuel, had less torque and was broke down so much that it would make a grown man cry. Dan |
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North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana | Id rate them in this order. 1570, 2-180, nearly any other tractor, a horse, then the 7080.
Never had a 1570 but have several 1270, 1370, 2390, 2590, 2594...all of which the mechanucals are similar. The 1570/2590/2594's are brutes. Huge amounts of torque. I'd spring for a 90 series if possible due to cab upgrades. We had a 7045 and the full powershift was convient but the cab is small, very small. Engine had no guts to it at all. It hated starting unless it was 50° or warmer, even after a dealer checkup. No opinion on the white, probably a decent tractor.
Edited by Farms With CASE 4/1/2016 16:11
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IA | 7080 for me. Already have one actually. Don't know much about the other two, so I'll stick with what I know. Ours has a Cummins in it and had no real problems with in. Transmission and rear end are bulletproof. |
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Pierce county WI | If the 1570 is a spirit of 76, then it's my patriot duty to pick that! |
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| 1570. Couple of neighbours had 7080's from new, lots of trouble. Another neighbour bought one used - fortunately he got it cheap. The 2-180 was a cool looking old horse with that Cat V8 but that motor is why I wouldn't buy one.
'Course I'm a bit biased being a Case guy and all. Now if a 4840 was included in the list...
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NW KS/ SC ID | IMO the 2-180 should have been powered by a 478 intercooled hercules, then it would be my favorite, but a 7080 Black Belly takes the cake for me.
1570 is OK, but I just dont care for the case Powershift, motors are torquey though.
I wonder what the Allis haters did to theirs to have such poor luck, I know my old man is cheap on his and is very stingy on fluid and filters and it still has not let him down. We have quite a few others that keep following us home, and all have been excellent.
I did pick up a 7580 that will be a money pit in control cables and seals and gaskets, but it ran all last year with little to no issue. hi side of PD is out on it. |
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East Central, Nebraska | Id probably pick the white, but the white and the allis have extremely small cabs. if I was able to upgrade to an 8000 series allis that would be my choice but that wasn't the question. |
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| Ford TW 30 wins |
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Southwest Illinois | White 2-180 for the over under transmission. |
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| Back in 1980 dad was looking for a tractor. Found a guy that had a 76 , 1570 and a 1975 1566 ih. We ended up with the 1566, not sure if was as much dads decision our us boys. Never really had to many problems with the 1566, but later in life I always figured the 1570 was probably the superior tractor. Looked at a couple 1370's when my brother and I were looking for our first tractor, but never ended up with a case.
Don't have any experience with any of the three, but would go with the 1570 just because we missed out on one before. |
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Ludington/Manistee MI area | 1) 7080
2) White
3) Belarus
4) Any other tractor
5) 1570
I had a 7080 that I sold to get a 7580. The 7080 could make a locomotive look like a weakling. Mine had a very hard life before I got it and still served me well. |
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Ludington/Manistee MI area | Farms With CASE - 4/1/2016 17:06
Id rate them in this order. 1570, 2-180, nearly any other tractor, a horse, then the 7080.
Never had a 1570 but have several 1270, 1370, 2390, 2590, 2594...all of which the mechanucals are similar. The 1570/2590/2594's are brutes. Huge amounts of torque. I'd spring for a 90 series if possible due to cab upgrades. We had a 7045 and the full powershift was convient but the cab is small, very small. Engine had no guts to it at all. It hated starting unless it was 50° or warmer, even after a dealer checkup. No opinion on the white, probably a decent tractor.
50 degrees? That's odd I wouldn't bat an eye at any of our 426 powered tractors starting at the freezing point without any help. |
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| If you could take the 504 out of the 1570 and stick it in the 2-180 then you'd have something worth having.
Basically what you'd have would be pretty close to a 185 White :-)
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North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana | Same thing we said, and thats why the local long time dealer came out. Ended up with a new injection pump and retimed but it still didnt start below 50 without either. Ran good otherwise. |
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| 7080 without a doubt. Then the 2-180 then the 1570
Leave the 7080 at stock horsepower and don't try working it like a 200 horse tractor and it will live fine for many trouble free years. |
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NW KS/ SC ID | White cabs are roughly the same or bigger than a JD sound guard and no one complains about them. Or they do, and the JD mafia shuts them up. :)
Allis cab is plenty large down low, can pack a cooler and a toolbox and still have plenty of room.
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western iowa,by Denison | probably find a 185 white-8.3 cummins and rest of tractor more reliable then boxcar magnum |
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Northwest Iowa | In our area the "pumpkins" (AC)were popular in their day as they were 3000 less than a "binder"(IHC) and 5000 less than a Deere. Only know of one 7080 that was around but only about 2 years. Friend had a 7050 and 7045. He said if the drawbar was cool to the touch, they would need ether. Used a 2255 Oliver one spring. The 6 cylinder would have been better than the V-8. It was not impressive at all. Not many Case around here. Lots of power in the 1570 but the neighbors had a hard time keeping theirs cool and finally cooked the head. Head was replaced but still runs hot. It is a "Spirit of '76" so it like is a Shop Queen any more. 504 and case PS repairmen are getting long in the tooth and harder to find. In that tractor group, I would likely choose 1570, 2-180, 7080 for me. Might need all 3 to keep one in the field! |
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SW Ontario | Dave7060 - 4/1/2016 21:48
7080 without a doubt. Then the 2-180 then the 1570
Leave the 7080 at stock horsepower and don't try working it like a 200 horse tractor and it will live fine for many trouble free years.
If you recommend that a 180hp tractor cannot be operated like a 200 ho tractor than I would want no part of it. That is too close to the design limit and duty cycle for my liking.
If a machine can't handle a mere 10% overload it will cause huge headaches for many owners who actually work their machines.
Not interested in a machine you need to baby.
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SW Ontario | I had a 1570 and put a ton of hours on it.
Terrible hydraulics is one con, another is the jerkamatic 3 speed power shift tranny.
They are good on fuel and can crank out the ponies as well.
If you look at the size of the trans and rear end of the 1570 compared to the 1370 there is no comparison...as much as it is a pig to operate it will get the job done. A 4840 is a caddilac in comparison but will use more fuel. |
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case 1570 vs. allis chalmers 7080 vs. white 2-180
