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Rivers, MB | Looking at getting rid of a 4430 2wd and adding a higher hp mfwd tractor. Have outgrown the 4430 and nobody wants to drive it in the field if the 7800 mfwd is sitting available. Will pull a small disc, 750 bu grain cart, 28' chisel plow/cultivator, harrow etc. Possibly pull a 16 row planter some day down the road. Not a main tractor but keeps hours off our quadtracs.
CAD/USD exchange is horrible right now so makes buying in the US not very attractive. $1.40 exchange makes those 50-60K USD 8300/8400's a $100K tractor up here :-(
Not many higher hp row crop size tractors available in Western Canada as they were never a super big seller as most used a 4WD.
On a budget so looking at 47/4955's or 47/4960's. Would love an 83/8400 but seem to be priced very high.
Question is:
Is there a big difference between the 55 and 60 series JD tractors. Exhaust on the side, vertical vs horizontal oil filter and key shut-off (vs diesel pull shutoff) are the major differences I'm aware of. Are there some others? Same engine I presume?
I know some on here have had very bad experiences with 4960's. Cousin had a 4960 and loved it.
What say the experts?
Edited by mennoboy 1/26/2016 16:10
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meade co. sw, ks | I'm no expert but I just my 4960 for a 8300. They are basically the same, my 4960 was a excellent tractor and left with 15k hrs but needed its first overhaul. If it wasn't for health reasons I would have kept it and overhauled it myself. I would strongly recommend getting a 49 over a 47. The little extra power is nice at times. Check front pivot pins and bushings by jacking up front of tractor and checking movement. Mine cost me 5k to fix because it wore into the housing and they had to do some machining then. |
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North West IA/western AZ | Other than front pivot pin, electric fuel shutoff, and a head gasket, I got along well with my 4960. They do not turn well if you have the fronts at 60". When I 1st got mine, I planted with a 4440 and the 4960 was tillage only so I had the wheels set wide enough that it turned just fine. |
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St. Joseph, Champaign County, IL | They didn't test the 60 series at Nebraska, since the tractors were mechanically the same as the 55 series, if that tells you anything. |
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Central Wisconsin | Thought 4955 was a mechanical controlled fuel pump and a 4960 was a electrical controlled pump. Thought 4960 was JD first tractor with electrically controlled fuel pump |
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NE KS | We have one and I assure you its mechanical. The shut off is electric. |
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EC IL | Front pivot pin and water pump. And the door didn't shut the tightest. But a good tractor. I'd scour the sales for a 8000 series though |
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| Bought a 4960 mfwd last yr. really happy w it. Head gaskets are a prob. Mech pump has alot to do w the head gasket probs if u catch my drift |
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Western Iowa | Have a friend that has had both models. Only complaint is the 60 series is a lot harder on air filters than a 55 series. Have to blow them out much more often in dusty conditions.
Other than that I don't think there is a nickels worth of difference. |
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| there is one feature to watch for and that is the front assist axle--make sure it has the housing that has the outer section bolted to the center housing as that design uses a round ball-shimmable-for the bearing setup instead of Timken bearings which are a constant source of trouble.in looking at john deere parts it looks like both models used the good design. good luck |
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meade co. sw, ks | My 4960 had a mechanical pump. Had a mechanical fuel shut off too........sorta. the last few months I had it the wires on top of the shut off melted so I just used a tarp strap to hold it open lol |
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Wyoming | I have both, the only other difference I can think of that has not been mentioned, are the lights of the 4960 are far better than the 4955. The 4960 has 8900 hrs and had an engine overhaul prior to my purchase 3000 hrs ago because of a poorly installed air filter. The 4955 has 6800 hrs and has been owned by me since 1700 hrs. The only thing I consider a serious breakdown, is the 4955's rear main engine oil seal walked out of the aluminum housing three years ago. I obviously prefer the 4960 for the exhaust and lights, but I'd let price and condition determine which one I'd buy. |
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South western ont | There are 2 in southern Ont 8300s 75 and 82000. And I'm sure one of here would check it out for you. |
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South Texas | If worried about budget, why not a 4850? No different for anything important I think, and much cheaper. |
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Central Wisconsin | There were both electronic and mechanical pumps on the 4960. Now after looking it up I remember it being just the very late models have electronic just before the 8000's came out. Deere wouldn't let me paste the pictures of each pump http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/com.deere.u90490.partscatalog.view.servlets.PrintPageServlet?printParams=Illustration,+Keylines | | 
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sw corner ia. | this literature is somewhat misleading, the pump itself was never "electronic" at all, it was the same bosch pump but the governor had an electronic servo controlling the rack position, which is no different from that of the 8100-8400 series tractors, also the 9000 combines used a similar arrangement. |
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Central Wisconsin | That is what I said a electronic controlled pump. 60 series first tractor to use it. |
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Southwest Manitoba | There was a pretty sharp looking 4960 for sale at hartney on e Brandon Ron. It looked ok in the pics. I think either a 55 or 60 would be a good tractor. I have a 4560 and it's been great. Had a couple other 60s that were good tractors too. |
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Rivers, MB | I am under the impression (maybe incorrectly) that the 4850 mfwd had a zetor front axle which was not desirable compared to the 55/60 series. Is that correct? |
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Rivers, MB | Yes. Saw that one. Been texting with owner. Higher hrs than what we want. Does present very well in pictures.
Appreciate the tip.
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Marianna Arkansas | When they were new the 4960 was a lot quieter because of the cab liner.
Of the few left here now I doubt any have any upholstery in them anyway.
Prol different up north though.
There was more 60's here than 55's because times were getting better when the 60's were out and people were finally buying some new tractors.
Both are fine though. |
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South Texas | I think there were 3 front axle options in 4850s. The ZF, the same JD as the 55 and 60, and not sure what the other was. |
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Wallis, TX | There were a few 'test' 4960's with electronic pumps, most were mechanical governors. |
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| I wouldn't be afraid of either, never ran a 55 but heard good things. We have a 4960-by far my favorite tractor on the farm, even over both 8130s, 8420, and 8300. It's a good simple tractor. Very reliable. Just keep the antifreeze changed or that will lead to issues. |
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| The early 4850s used a Deutz front end. It wasn't the best, we had one and didn't know it until we tore into it. What a nightmare to get parts and work on. Deere got into a big lawsuit over stealing that from Deutz. I would stay away from the ones with Deutz front ends. The later ones are when Deere had their own and were much better. |
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| The early 4850s used a Deutz front end. It wasn't the best, we had one and didn't know it until we tore into it. What a nightmare to get parts and work on. Deere got into a big lawsuit over stealing that from Deutz. I would stay away from the ones with Deutz front ends. The later ones are when Deere had their own and were much better. |
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4955 vs 4960 JD tractor
