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chadlit
Posted 1/3/2016 21:54 (#5009185)
Subject: Best Twin Row Planter



SD
Anybody out there run a no-till twin row planter with row shutoffs? I'm curious too see if we can improve our corn and soybean yields by bumping up population and decreasing time to canopy. Also curious to see how well shutoffs work with the twin row config. Do twin rows cause any issues when spraying or harvesting with a 30" cornhead? Any Franken planters out there???
Thanks!
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Tazzerblue
Posted 1/4/2016 09:52 (#5009878 - in reply to #5009185)
Subject: Monosem


SW MN
Just planted my 9th year with a 12 twin. I'm not no-till, and the Newer Monosem's have been upgraded extensively. I've been pushing population to 40k. and you really have to look at the hybred your planting to figure out the best population. As far as harvesting, again each individual hybred harvest different. I've had one very dry year where a hybred put the ears very close to the ground and that was difficult getting them all. Also I tend to harvest at a higher moisture 25% and down. I do so for less ear loss and shelling at the head. looking at yield data the first harvested is usually the Highest Yielding, on average. This year was the first year I had one hybred break over in fall with high winds. another hybred right beside it stood fine. Twins will give you more space between plants and you will notice thicker stalks, so less stand ability issue's throughout the year. I plant and spray with 320 tires. I have no auto steer and have not side dressed yet. But plan to this year, you will also have the advantage of rows shading earlier and all the benefits that provides. weed pressure, moisture loss, fertilizer evaporating, ect. Would I do it again? Not sure. the added planter units is a Big expense. I would consider going 22 in row's as that is very common with the sugar beets in my area.
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GLC4010
Posted 1/4/2016 10:12 (#5009924 - in reply to #5009185)
Subject: RE: Best Twin Row Planter


40 miles NW of Des Moines
We had a 17 acre test plot using Stine's Twin Row planter in 2014. We thought we had the wrong hybrid because the stability was poor and the yield was also. We used a 20 in. corn head.

Central Iowa
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sjm4040
Posted 1/4/2016 10:27 (#5009953 - in reply to #5009924)
Subject: RE: Best Twin Row Planter


Central Michigan
I took a kinze 16-31 added a row and made it into a 16 twin row...it was real easy not a problem with a 30" corn head i ran that for 5 years and it was time for a new planter....and then i got sticker shock when i priced a new factory twin...so i made the switch to straight 20" and that was a lot more simple and cheaper, i bought a new 20" planter and corn head for less money than the new twin planter would have been.....bu to answer the question about the best i would agree the Monesem is prob the best....I wouldnt touch a great plains with a 10' pole
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chadlit
Posted 1/4/2016 11:39 (#5010080 - in reply to #5009953)
Subject: RE: Best Twin Row Planter



SD
Thanks for the advice!
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DidSomeoneSayDonuts
Posted 1/4/2016 13:01 (#5010232 - in reply to #5009185)
Subject: RE: Best Twin Row Planter



waaaay east central Colorado
I've ran a Monosem for 7-8 (?) years now and really like them. I started with a 12 row twin 30" stacker and now have a 24 row twin 30". The Monosem units are the best units out there. The company has always been really good to work with in the past, but I'm curious to see how ma Deere handles things. We don't have ours configured to do row clutches, but we have a five motor hydraulic drive that we section control with. The section control works fine, but I'd like to have row by row control. I really like the early canopy that twins give, but you've got to be able to handle a population that CAN canopy. We did a limited water circle at 24k once, and I didn't like the twins in that so much, still a lot of light hitting the ground. In my mind, if your fields can't hold 30k + population with a 30" row, I can't see there being any benefit to twins in corn.
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twinrow11
Posted 1/4/2016 14:10 (#5010341 - in reply to #5009185)
Subject: RE: Best Twin Row Planter


Manitoba, Canada
I guess ours would fit the category of "franken planter," took a 36r20 DB60 bought 12 more XP row units and added a second 7x7 bar that folds similar to a 1790 to make a 24r30 twin/48r15 planter. Unfortunately ours isn't set up to be timed to a diamond pattern like a monosem or great plains, the only easy way to do that is graham electric drives. As for shutoffs, I don't see why it would be any different than a 15" planter like a 1790 with every second row slightly set back (ours is just 3 section hyd. shutoffs). The only thing with harvesting that could be considered a problem is that you can't harvest as close to the ground, so chopping corn headers don't work well.

Advantages that we've noticed: faster canopy creating less weed pressure, better standability, haven't had time in spring to do any comparison trials yet though so whether it yields better or not is anyone's guess,

disadvantages: LOTS more moving parts to maintain and adjust, requires narrower tires, nearly impossible to set jd CCS system right with more than 32 row units, more power to pull,
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